ICJ: SA Genocide Case vs. ISR - part 2

[HeidiInTheBigCity]

1st thread is full - here comes part 2!

oh my goodness I really hope that this can be stopped somehow

Thanks. Unfortunately, I don’t believe a single word that comes out of his mouth or idfs so this data id prefer if it was independently verified. And the images we keep seeing don’t support this 20k of the deaths were Hamas members.

I believe Netanyahu when he says he wants to eliminate Hamas and prevent any terrorist attacks ever again. I don't think this is an achievable aim without eliminating all Gazan males, I do think he will try.

If he wants to achieve his other aim of returning all hostages, he needs to start negotiations. I have little faith in him trying this path.

I feel quite shit saying that.

I had hoped the yellow cards from the US and ICJ would bring about negotiations and a reasonable outcome.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/israeli-agents-are-trying-threaten-my-family-says-south-african-foreign

Egypt stepping up security near border with Gaza: Report

The Reuters news agency has reported that Egypt has been taking steps to bolster security near the border with Gaza, deploying 40 tanks and armoured personnel carriers to northeastern Sinai over the last two weeks.

At some point, I am literally going to have to write a whole essay entitled "about Palestinian men". I used to be married to one. I loved another. They've been my BILs, FILs, friends, comrades, annoying uncles, students and teachers!

One of the things that has really - on a personal level - upset me the most about everything that has been said and written was the utter lack (generally speaking, of course there have been exceptions) of a human lens on Palestinian men.

No, of course Palestinian men, by and large, are not violent, homicidal monsters!

At the same time, no, they are also not just "romantic heroes". Or "innocent victims".

These things are also not binary! Several things can be true all at once! You can absolutely be both a) a victim of brutal oppression, b) a militant, and c) very tender and romantic, but also d) just as annoying as any British man when you have a stubborn habit of leaving your dirty coffee cups all over the place all the fucking time. These are not contradictions.

And, by the way, you can even be an apolitical Palestinian man. They, too, exist!

I think this is all posturing so Netanyahu can say he's "eliminated hamas" and have a ceasefire without losing face with the Israeli public who've been constantly bombarded with "human shield" nonsense.

I think this because I just heard the Israeli spokesperson saying they have "eliminated" 18 out of 24 Battalions, 2 are left in Khan Younis and 4 in Rafah, as Hamas were an actual army. I just don't believe they are as organised as that.

Hopefully they will manage to move the refugees to some sort of safety and this will be over quickly now.

So fucking angry though. Playing theatre with human lives.

Such courage.

You're actually sort of incorrect on this one!

While I would, literally, go out and check for myself if an Israeli army spokesperson claimed the weather was sunny today, Hamas (specifically: their armed wing, the Qassam brigades, and, for that matter: other armed Palestinian factions) very much are organised "roughly along the lines of conventional armies". They have organisational structures, functional specialisations, command lines, ... all that stuff.

That is, in an of itself, "morally neutral". But, no, armed Palestinian factions are not "just a bunch of guys with kalashnikovs". That is not how they work!

Thank you! Bad assumption on my part then

Just to add to this, having listened to journalists amd analysts who have been in the region for decades and have contacts with the various groups in Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and Iraq, part of the late Iranian General Qasem Soleimanis plan was to train all the factions in disciplined yet irregular warfare.

The way that they are set up is that even if a leader is assassinated there are already 3 or 4 trained up in order to replace them. It's why so many (honest) experts have said that the IDF will fail to destroy Hamas. They are able to operate as independent parts as well as in larger groups. The videos on Telegram of their engagements with the IDF show that they are well trained.

Thank you for reminding us of that.

I think that when we talk about a huge mass of people it can be easy to lose sight of the individual differences that exist between them, and the complexities that exist within each individual.

I talk about how many children have died a lot, because I think it is especially terrible and against the natural order of things, it’s wrong in a way that goes against the grain of our existence.

But I think that all people, men, women, children, deserve the right to live and aspire to more than survival, and be seen as more than a ‘Palestinian’.

Amnesty International chief in regards to Israel's planned attack of Rafah:

Evacuation?? BUT WHERE? There is nowhere to go to. amnesty is reiterating that Palestinians in Gaza are at grave risk of genocide. The international community has an obligation to act to prevent genocide.

It's very worrying @Parkingt111 I think Netanyahu has asked for a plan to be presented. I suppose he will announce the plan in next few days, so it should say where the war cabinet suggests the people go.

@stormy4319trevor there's not really many options. I suppose one option could be going back to the north, but there isn't much essential infrastructure remaining there and also scarce humanatarian aid reaching there too.
For the vulnerable and ill it could be a death sentence.
The pressure is on but I don't trust Netanyahu at all to abide by the US's demands at this point. There isn't much for him to lose on a personal level as it's clear he is on his way out

@Parkingt111 It's madness, isn't it. I wonder if they will try to get them to the bit of land on the coast, I forget it's name. He's asked for an evacuation plan, so presumably wants to move people somewhere. Like you say, a death sentence, unless the US gives a meaningful ultimatum.

PRESS RELESAE: the #ICJ will hold public hearings on the request for advisory opinion on the Legal Consequences arising from the Policies and Practices of Israel in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, from 19 to 26 February 2024

https://twitter.com/CIJ_ICJ/status/1756013988045857079

Thanks to everyone for all the updates.

So angry about this - huge consignment of food - enough to feed 1,1 million people for a month being held hostage by Israel

Food shipment for 1.1 million Palestinians stuck at port due to restrictions from Israeli authorities, says UNRWA

A food shipment for 1.1 million Palestinians is stuck at an Israeli port due to recent restrictions from Israeli authorities, says the UN agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA) as an estimated 25% of families in Gaza face catastrophic hunger.

The Associated Press (AP) report that UNRWA’s director, Philippe Lazzarini, said on Friday that a convoy of food donated by Turkey had been sitting for weeks in the Israeli port city of Ashdod. The agency said that the Israeli contractor they work with received a call from Israeli customs authorities “ordering them not to process any UNRWA goods”.

That's disgusting. I keep seeing a video on social media of a newborn sucking a muslin cloth full of dates because her mother doesn't have any formula to feed her and can't produce breast milk. Surely these babies will die. And Israel deliberately starving them. The ICJ will be busy with these bastards, but how many have to die in the meantime?

Yes the newborn babies are the most vulnerable of all and many must be dying

The aid that Israel is witholding should be sent back to Turkey so that it can go to an Egyptian port

The provision of humanitarian aid has actually become worse since the ICJ ruling - not better!!

@Efacsen that's infuriating. Any idea what will happen to the shipment?
It has definitely gotten worse rather than better.
The people in the north have nearly ran out of animal feed that they were desperately grinding as hardly any aid is reaching there. And to think just outside of Gaza there's trucks and trucks of aid provided by other countries prevented from coming in to those who so desperately need it

Why isn't aid able to flow through the Egyptian border?

IDK @Parkingt111 if the 1000 plus containers of dry food are still on the boat or have been unloaded- article doesn't say but it does say weeks of delay

Couple of weeks ago there were demonstrations at the same port trying to stop aid delivery and lorry drivers were racially abused

And yes as you say huge need being unmet - people eating grass and killing their horses for food