South Africa has invoked the Genocide Convention against Israel over Gaza

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The entire filing is 84 pages long and, frankly, took me several hours to read - it's well worth the effort, though, in that it is rather (painfully at times) clinical and devastating in equal measure: https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20231228-app-01-00-en.pdf

Go, South Africa!

It might not male that much of a difference in the short term - but: to see the former victims of Apartheid take the lead on the world stage, and offer support (the way they - after multiple decades of campaigning and pressure ... it's not as though world leaders hated Apartheid South Africa "by default") is just ... a little spark of light within the darkness!

That racist tweet is an anonymous account with 60 followers that could be based anywhere. It's hardly Eylon Levy tweeting it.

Using that to extrapolate a "they" is really off.

Not just really off, but I'd argue its also anti-semitic of that poster to do so.

If its real, then of course the person that tweeted it was out of order. But it certainly cannot be attributed to the State of Israel in any way whatsoever.

Oh Germany, always on the wrong side of history 😂😂😂

@CluelessPepperoni this is what Omri Sender, Israeli lawyer said in court today wrt starvation in Gaza

''He also claims Israel has ensured humanitarian aid enters Gaza and that there has been no restriction on the amount of water that may enter the Gaza Strip.

Sender says food trucks have been able to enter the strip and the sick and injured have been allowed to cross into Egypt.''

I would have thought that there was an onus on both Israel and SA to tell the truth or what is the point. Just today the UN humanitarian office said that Israeli authorities were systematically denying it access to northern Gaza to deliver aid and this had significantly hindered the humanitarian operation there. Is there not evidence required to back up their claims or does anything go?

@CluelessPepperoni it would seem like anything just goes I'd say. They've said a lot of things that can be argued as untrue. There is so much evidence out there that can say otherwise, do the ICJ look at them?

@CluelessPepperoni and Al Aqsa hospital generators ran out of fuel today meaning no electricity for incubators and ventilators so more prem babies and adult ICU patients at risk of dying

Fuel was meant to be delivered yesterday lunchtime but ?didn't arrive/couldn't be sent

Well in November the Israeli ambassador to the UN was still insisting that there was no humanatarian crisis in Gaza 🤷‍♀️
Despite over half of the population being displaced and severe shortage of food, water and essential supplies

Various official Israeli sources have vern claiming for a while now that the aid issue doesn't lie with them, but with the UN.
Obviously I have no way of telling what is or isn't true but they haven't just suddenly claimed it today, the issues and disagreements have been ongoing for at least a month.

The relationship between the respective Israeli and UN officials is presently fractious to say the least.

I would hope some kind of fact checking goes into both sides claims. It seems really strange that you appear to be able to just stand up and say whatever you want whether it is true or not. It's crazy that hospitals are still running out of fuel and patients are being out at risk when hospitals(and their staff and patients) have been through so much already.

This is a continuation (but ramped up) to the counting of calories the Israeli government happily did before, in order to keep the Gaza population just above starvation level.
Is this not genocidal intent, what is ?
This is a website for mothers/grandmothers/soon to be mothers. I will never, ever understand how the deliberate killing of children can ever be justified by anyone. Here it is.
A government has chosen to inflict starvation, a slow and painful death, on innocents, in the name of self defence. This is the 21st century, not the Medieval times.

If that is the case then I'm sure Israel will have no problem providing evidence and proving that the current worlds worst hunger ccrisis isn't their fault but is the UNs. Israel are the ones in court so it should be up to them to prove their claims.

If that is the case then why is the US and UK and France and all the other allies not taking it up with the UN? Why are they constantly saying that they are in talks with Israel to try and increase the amount of aid being allowed in? Surely they would just say that Israel is allowing sufficient aid in but they haven't. Not even the US have said that

This was what Blinken said only three days ago when he was in Israel

Blinken focused in his talks with Israeli leaders on the dire humanitarian situation in Gaza amid concerns over growing food insecurity Blinken said during a press conference that he told Israeli officials they need to allow more food, water and medical supplies into Gaza, distribute the aid more efficiently so that it reaches more people and allow the aid to flow through more border crossings.

Fractious indeed - which female Knesset member was wanting to close down UNWRA this week? Demanding to shutter it!

Thing is there are quite a few other parties [not COGAT or UNWRA} who have been down to Rafah to try and see for themselves where the truth lies eg 2 US Senators this week - so there is evidence which is less biased if you want to find it

www.cp24.com/news/canada-not-getting-behind-premise-of-south-africa-s-genocide-case-against-israel-1.6723394

This was from Cameron just a few days ago

More must be done to get humanitarian aid into Gaza – Israel must allow significantly more supplies in to reduce the risk of hunger and disease,"

It does seem strange that Israel haven't communicated to its allies that it is the UN forcing famine on Palestinians and not them. It's a really serious claim, to accuse the United Nations of creating such a catastrophe, I can't see why if Israel have proved to their allies what is happening they have remained silent and continue to ask Israel to allow more aid to enter. They have backed Israel on everything else, it would unusual for them to ignore this very important claim.

This goes back to my point though, are both sides required to prove their claims or can they just say of course we are allowing aid in, there is nothing on our end that is causing starvation. It would be a complete farce if this is the case. It's such a serious issue, with lives literally hanging in the balance it seems unbelievable that this would be the case.

@CluelessPepperoni this was published today on the UK Gov site

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/israel-must-act-now-to-let-aid-through-and-save-lives-in-gaza-britain-has-a-plan-to-help-that-happen-article-by-the-foreign-secretary

This is what Martin Guterres is reporting to the UNSC in the last hour

He said that UN officials have just been able to access the northern part of Gaza; he said they came back and said the scenes were utter horror.

He said corpses were lying on the road, [there were] people with evident signs of starvation stopping trucks in search of anything they can get to survive.

Sounds like genocide to me. I can't believe people around here still defend this horror.

Court cases are a lengthy process!

This case has begun with both sides setting out their respective premises to the Court which is simply the beginning.

This is NOT the stage where evidence is presented. That comes later.

If you think this is going to be over in a few weeks or months, then you're hugely mistaken. It doesn't work like that.

According to wiki these are the following countries who have supported South Africa's case of genocide against Israel

• Bangladesh
• Bolivia
• Brazil
• Colombia
• Cuba
• Indonesia
• Iran
• Iraq
• Jordan
• Lebanon
• Malaysia
• Maldives
• Morocco
• Namibia
• Nicaragua
• Pakistan
• Palestine
• Saudi Arabia
• Syria
• Turkey
• Venezuela

In my opinion they are scraping the barrel with this as it’s not a she said/he said case is it… plenty has been witnessed and documented. SA aren’t picking figures or quotes out of thin air. They may be trying to discredit SA as punishment for bringing the case.