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Conflict in the Middle East

Documenting Israeli army racism and torture thread 2

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Desertrose2023 · 05/12/2023 04:24

First thread almost full so starting another one to continue this discussion

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FrozenWindscreen · 13/12/2023 23:58

ScrollingLeaves · 13/12/2023 20:40

They [the IDF] raped and murdered women and men at a peace festival not realising they weren’t military targets

No, none of the reports said that, nor any posters as far as I am aware.

That takes the prize for the most pathetic terrorist apologist bullshit that I’ve read on MN so far.

Some evidence of own fire was written about in a couple of Haaretz articles one based on an Israeli police report; another on a report about someone who had been there. Then there was the video of an Israeli woman who was there speaking about what she witnessed.

Early on there was another women who mentioned own fire Jasmin Porat who was there Oct 7 and escaped but her testimony was apparently in a radio interview its harder to trace.

This video was posted the other day.

Mass Hannibal" — We killed Israelis on 7 October, says Israeli air force colonel - YouTube

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r63nmfbIUBA&feature=youtu.be

None of this means it was not Hamas’s responsibility. It would not have happened without Hamas’s savage attack. None of it means Hamas did not slaughter torture rape and kill.

@ScrollingLeaves my response above was to a now deleted post by @PrincessConsuelaB that stated that Hama’s objective on October 7th was to attack Israeli military targets and kidnap Israeli soldiers. Hence my post asking if they ‘accidentally’ entered family homes and kidnapped OAPs and babies mistaking them for Israeli soldiers.

flowerssss · 14/12/2023 04:22

@FrozenWindscreen

@ScrollingLeaves my response above was to a now deleted post by @PrincessConsuelaB that stated that Hama’s objective on October 7th was to attack Israeli military targets and kidnap Israeli soldiers. Hence my post asking if they ‘accidentally’ entered family homes and kidnapped OAPs and babies mistaking them for Israeli soldiers.

No. Your reply wasn't in response to @PrincessConsuelaB post but to somebody else's. Scroll up and check.

mostblobs · 14/12/2023 08:01

Just a reminder to please stay on topic - IDF racism and torture. Please report or ignore derailers to avoid the thread going off topic.

braticus · 14/12/2023 09:46

x.com/nournaim88/status/1735176670242308150?s=46

"This is Sarah Khalil Qadeeh 10 years , and this is the bullet that ended her life. She was martyred in a displacement camp in southern #Gaza by an Israeli occupation sniper."

Can someone please tell me what is Israel's justification for using snipers to kill children?

ssd · 14/12/2023 10:22

There's no justification at all.

ssd · 14/12/2023 10:23

braticus · 13/12/2023 22:24

@Overstudy The IDF are known to use children as human shields which makes them no better than terrorists.

Funnily enough i imagine the daily mail don't report that..

PeasfullPerson · 14/12/2023 17:14

Another blackout 😞

braticus · 14/12/2023 17:17

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/12/13/politics/intelligence-assessment-dumb-bombs-israel-gaza/index.html

"CNN —
Nearly half of the air-to-ground munitions that Israel has used in Gaza in its war with Hamas _since October 7 have been unguided, otherwise known as “dumb bombs,” according to a new US intelligence assessment."

EasterIssland · 14/12/2023 17:53

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stormy4319trevor · 14/12/2023 18:06

Has anyone heard of the telegram channel which broadcasts footage from Gaza, such as a soldier running over a Palestinian man several times? I link an article from JVL, though the original article was in Haaretz, for which I don'y have an account.
Graphic Videos and incitement: how the IDF is misleading Israelis on Telegram | Jewish Voice for Labour

Graphic Videos and incitement: how the IDF is misleading Israelis on Telegram

The IDF is involved in a propaganda offensive directed at an Israeli audience, designed to whip up enthusiasm for its…

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/graphic-videos-and-incitement-how-the-idf-is-misleading-israelis-on-telegram/

stormy4319trevor · 14/12/2023 18:06

Looks rather disturbing.

mostblobs · 14/12/2023 18:12

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/18hta1q/videoshowsisrael_defense_forces_abusing/

Trigger warning

Title of post as copied from Reddit:

"Video shows Israel Defense Forces abusing detained Palestinian men"

braticus · 14/12/2023 18:34

x.com/yonahlieberman/status/1735325280871301534?s=46

CNN reporter was able to get into Gaza for the first time since October 7th. Horrific to watch.

ScrollingLeaves · 14/12/2023 19:11

stormy4319trevor · 14/12/2023 18:06

Has anyone heard of the telegram channel which broadcasts footage from Gaza, such as a soldier running over a Palestinian man several times? I link an article from JVL, though the original article was in Haaretz, for which I don'y have an account.
Graphic Videos and incitement: how the IDF is misleading Israelis on Telegram | Jewish Voice for Labour

Thank you. I had wanted to read that Haaretz article but couldn’t before this.

stormy4319trevor · 14/12/2023 19:23

Sorry @ScrollingLeaves I just linked a comment piece from JVL about the article. Like you I haven't read it.

ScrollingLeaves · 14/12/2023 19:27

braticus · 14/12/2023 18:34

x.com/yonahlieberman/status/1735325280871301534?s=46

CNN reporter was able to get into Gaza for the first time since October 7th. Horrific to watch.

This is a report about a man made hell.

That young female engineering student who now has only one leg after her family followed the Israeli injunction advice to go South but were then bombed in the house where they sheltered!

The very wounded two year old boy who does not yet know his parents and siblings were killed, calling Daddy when he saw a nurse who looked like him!

The two brought in both missing legs during the very report itself!

ScrollingLeaves · 14/12/2023 19:39

stormy4319trevor · 14/12/2023 19:23

Sorry @ScrollingLeaves I just linked a comment piece from JVL about the article. Like you I haven't read it.

Thank you for explaining, but at least the report seemed detailed, so I think possibly it paraphrased a lot of the Haaretz one.

Pretty obscene and barbaric basically for the side that is supposed to be the civilised one.

Does anyone know if we had anything like this in Afghanistan and also being fed to the public at home?

stormy4319trevor · 14/12/2023 19:44

@ScrollingLeaves I'm still stunned at 'get to hear the bones crunch!' (sic) It's got these weird undertones of entertainment, or that the general public would enjoy seeing real people killed.

Parkingt111 · 14/12/2023 19:47

@stormy4319trevor it's pure sadism.
It makes me feel sick to even read it

stormy4319trevor · 14/12/2023 19:51

@Parkingt111 I'm sorry. I just wondered if any one knew more about it. I think the IDF said it wasn't officially set up by them, so you'd think it would be taken down.

Parkingt111 · 14/12/2023 19:53

@stormy4319trevor no don't apologise I have seen this mentioned before aswell so maybe someone will know more

stormy4319trevor · 14/12/2023 19:53

@ScrollingLeaves I suppose Afghanistan was pre mass social media, though. I only remember seeing news footage on terrestrial TV,

mindthespace · 14/12/2023 19:59

😢😢😢 I know they have no respect for mosques or churches but still...

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