The cenotaph and poppy sellers

[LittleMooli]

Hi, would anyone mind explaining to me why the media seems to be portraying that remembrance commemorations are being targeted by pro-palestinian protests? I don't really know enough to know how the two things are linked.

My understanding is that the protestors have selected that date to march and are refusing to change it.

I have no idea why they've chosen that date, whether it's linked or coincidence.

But we all know the media likes to put a spin on things and whip the great British public into a frenzy.

The marches are happening very week as the bombing is happening every week.

Yes I thought it was just happening every Saturday. I just didn't know if the cenotaph was linked in some way or if it's just the media making a fuss.

You don't understand why people are marching for a ceasefire on armistice day? Really?
Regardless the reports about attacks on poppy sellers have been shown to be baseless (see the statement from the police about the alleged brutal attack in Edinburgh Waverley).
The route of the March doesn't pass the Cenotaph. Various far right groups will be at the cenotaph on Saturday as they're not invited to the service on Sunday.

No I understand why. I just don't understand why the media/politicians seem so concerned that the cenotaph might be a target for trouble.

Because they're stirring it up. The only explanation is they want violence. Witness Braverman's op Ed in the Times yesterday when she managed to somehow insult all of Northern Ireland.

The remembrance service is on Sunday, this march is on Saturday. However, Saturday is the 11th so officially Remembrance Day and there were rumours the march route was planned for the Cenotaph however this is now confirmed not to be the case but it has still caused a heck of an argument in the media and among politicians.

It was never the case though. The rumours were deliberately spread to cause outrage. Regardless marching for an armistice on armistice day seems like a sensible link.

The marchers want to cause trouble and intimidate UK and Jewish people, they should be banned

People have posted links to issues elsewhere for memorial sites

Ok thanks I'll try and find them

I think it could be viewed as disrespectful to hold the march on a weekend where Britain is remembering its own dead.
Doesn't really help the cause with the wider public either.
My opinion, don't expect everyone to share it but like it or not, many do outside of the London/twitter/social media bubble.

I think this sums it up well. I do completely appreciate we have the right to protest in this country and that many generations died for that right but I don't agree that the march happening this weekend will necessarily encourage more people to support it, I think it will get a lot of backs up.

If you look up Rochdale Cenotaph news it should come up

Also an elderly man attacked for selling poppies in Scotland (not sure on location)

Sadly peaceful memorial sites and people have been targeted already

Only the police reviewed the CCTV and decided otherwise. The only actual reports of the assault are in GB News and the Daily Fail. Not the most reliable of sources.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-67363648

The elderly man was not attacked in Scotland. Didn't happen. See police statement.
There is NOTHING disrespectful asking for armistice on armistice day. It is arguably the most appropriate day. It's not just about remembering the war dead it's about trying to prevent it happening again. The British Legion don't want it banned!

This did happen, so I assume care needs to be taken not for similar

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/two-teenagers-arrested-after-free-palestine-painted-across-rochdale-cenotaph-13004008

People died to give us the right to protest, so marches should never be banned. Unless they are inciting violence or hatred. This is where the police fail and why some people are twitchy about a match taking place on remembrance weekend. The police will arrest women who say sex isn't changeable, but ignore people actively supporting terrorist groups.
The Metropolitan police cannot be relied upon for consistency or fairness or even basic competency

On banning or not, we haven’t taken the same view as France

It’s up to people if they think it’s ok to go ahead

In answer to op some activity has shown previous targets

Marches are every Saturday and one falls on ARMISTICE day and not remembrance day, which is the next day.

Shouldn’t we be remembering ALL the dead. What’s special about Britain?

Millions have been killed or fought in wars. Why are they unimportant?

Suella is stirring the pot though and drooling at the mouth at the thought of violence that she will help to incite through her shameful rhetoric.

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I think marching for peace in an ongoing conflict is an entirely suitable activity during Remembrance.

Routing away from sites that are already in use for the usual events is only sensible (and that might include the side of Parliament Square by the Field Of Remembrance, as that will be open on the Saturday) but aside from that, I don't think it's a problem.

After all, Whitehall is cleared and closed for extensive security checks from the wee small hours of Sunday, so there is no way they can interfere with the Cenotaph service of Remembrance (and I've not seen anything reliably suggesting that's the aim anyhow).