Placards from antisemitic marches in London

[BlurredEdges]

I had written this as a response to the other thread which was closed as it was overrun by antisemitic d**ks. As I'm sure this one will be too. They can't allow us to share the truth of what is being said and done in our own home towns and cities.

Look at these images. No, they are not in the minority or unusual. Here are just a few of many, many overtly antisemitic placards from Saturday's protest in London. (And a bonus one from 2021, which the lovely John McDonnell also spoke at.)

This is MY HOME. I am Jewish. My family fled pogroms in Eastern Europe and Nazis in Germany. Those family members who didn't flee were murdered for being Jews. And here we fucking are again. In London. And people defending it.

This is NOTHING TO DO WITH ISRAEL. These are Jew-haters, the faces of hate, the faces of anger and mockery, openly calling for Jews, for me, my family, my children, my parents, to be murdered, in my home city.

And people are defending it. How the fuck do you think we feel?

[SweSwee]

I don't think they are antisemitic. They are saying one atrocity doesn't allow for another.

How can they reference anything without being 'anti semetic' when ANY criticism of anything done by Israel is labeled as such?

[SweSwee]

How is 'there is blood on your hands' antisemitic?

[Flopsythebunny]

@SweSwee

I don't think they are antisemitic. They are saying one atrocity doesn't allow for another.

How can they reference anything without being 'anti semetic' when ANY criticism of anything done by Israel is labeled as such?

Have you actually read all those posters?

[OnlyFoolsnMothers]

@SweSwee

How is 'there is blood on your hands' antisemitic?

The Star of David! Blood is not on the hands of the Jews!

[MangoAF]

@SweSwee

How is 'there is blood on your hands' antisemitic?

The blood libel?

[OnlyFoolsnMothers]

@SweSwee

I don't think they are antisemitic. They are saying one atrocity doesn't allow for another.

How can they reference anything without being 'anti semetic' when ANY criticism of anything done by Israel is labeled as such?

Referencing Nazis ?

[Radyward]

Those placards are written by the unhinged
Criticism of israel is not anti semitic
Jewish people who are anti war are at risk of open fire from the israeli army if they protest. Lovely netanyahu- the actions of a lunatic.
Poor israelis
Poor palestinians
No winners but murder and destruction.
I am not anti jew i am anti the war crimes committed on both side. Does that make me anti semite

[Ididivfama]

@SweSwee

I don't think they are antisemitic. They are saying one atrocity doesn't allow for another.

How can they reference anything without being 'anti semetic' when ANY criticism of anything done by Israel is labeled as such?

Wow you seriously don’t think these are antisemitic?????

[Fallenangelofthenorth]

Of course they are antisemitic. Usual apologists first to comment yet again, I see.

I'm so sorry @BlurredEdges. I'm shocked at how close to the surface this hatred towards Jewish people has always been.

[Ididivfama]

You can’t exactly deny the cross carrying one…

wow. It really has got bad.

[saturnspinkhoop]

There’s one poster that I interpret to be blaming Jews for killing Jesus. How is that not anti-Semitic?

[ErrolTheDragon]

The third of those posters looks like a very explicit 'Christ killer' centuries old antisemitic trope.

[Lelophants]

These are disgusting and not at all subtle. They are very clearly targeting Jewish people.

[OnlyFoolsnMothers]

If there was a match against Isis and there was a Muslim symbol on the poster, would that not be offensive?

[saturnspinkhoop]

I really don’t like how they keep bringing Nazis and Hitler into this.

[ganondoof]

On what way is saying Jews killed Jesus not anti-Semetic?

[Echobelly]

I'm Jewish and I'd say the Star of David/swatstika post leftmost and the placard in central one at the bottom are certainly antisemtic.

I personally feel as though only Jews really get a pass to use language about Nazis in discussion but perhaps not one for placards, although I don't think antisemitic in itself. Personally it's that I find it overly confrontational and potentially offensive and alienating for Jews who want to criticise Israel if you consider they may be marching alongside you. I do agree that sadly too much of the Israeli government's actions towards the Palestianians (note, the government's actions - the existence of Israel does not necessitate any of this) - kafkaesque laws, sudden violence and imprisonment, ghettoisng - are all too like what happened in Germany.

'There is blood on your hands' is a fairly generic statement but in terms of 'blood libel' and the history of that it's not a great look, but not necessarily intended to reference that.

[winowin]

Absolutely shocking.

More shocking people on here defend such hate.

How is throwing the holocaust and nazi's in the face of the very victims of the holocaust not antisemitic?

[Moreempatheticmyarse]

@SweSwee

How is 'there is blood on your hands' antisemitic?

By putting in the star of David it makes it appear to reference Jews, as a whole, rather than Israel.

That's anti semitic, to blame an entire section of people, both religious and cultural, for something happening in a country they may not live in by a government they may not have elected.

[GrumpyPanda]

@SweSwee

I don't think they are antisemitic. They are saying one atrocity doesn't allow for another.

How can they reference anything without being 'anti semetic' when ANY criticism of anything done by Israel is labeled as such?

Did you look at all of them including the centre bottom picture, or were you too busy trying to get out a knee-jerk opinion before other posters?

OP YANBU. This is appalling. Sadly have seen similarly atrocious things on the Twitter feed of colleagues in Poland. And even worse, German press reports a number of houses and flat inhabited by jews have been marked with crude star of David graffiti. But I'm sure the usual suspects on here will laugh it all off.

[BlurredEdges]

@SweSwee

I don't think they are antisemitic. They are saying one atrocity doesn't allow for another.

How can they reference anything without being 'anti semetic' when ANY criticism of anything done by Israel is labeled as such?

In a way I am very glad that you posted this immediately below the images themselves. I think it makes my point better than I could possibly have done myself.

[Shouldimove]

They're not anti-semitic. They're against Israel, yes but that is not anti-semitism.

[Flibbertygibbetty]

So sorry OP it must be terrible to see these. I don’t understand where all this hatred comes from but most people do not hate Jews and Ipersonally have never heard anyone say anything horrible against Jewish people. I think this is being manipulated by people with an agenda within our country and unfortunately some people are all too quick to turn to hate without learning anything from history. Sending peace to you and all those caught in the conflict.

[FloweryName]

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

If there was a match against Isis and there was a Muslim symbol on the poster, would that not be offensive?

It can’t be helped when the country whose actions are legitimately protested against shares the same symbol on its flag as the symbol used to identify a religion.

The fact that Israel is a Jewish state is not what is relevant here. What matters is what Israel is doing with its army and what it has been doing to Palestinian people and territories for decades.

Do you think the Palestinians would be happy to just move over and give their homes to other people if they were Sikh instead of Jewish? Do you think they would be ok with their access to medicine, fuel, electricity and water being controlled by Christians instead of Jews? No, we all know they wouldn’t. It is wrongful action that is being criticised, not Judaism or Jewish people.