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The people that don't call those that support Hamas

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Trulywonderful · 24/10/2023 16:32

Such a nice guy with a good morals obviously. What more do you want from a barrister or law firm that hasn't spoken out on this

(Sarcasm)

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Teentaxidriver · 29/10/2023 16:05

Coughing - I don’t hate Jews (I don’t hate any people as a group) so I don’t know. But if you’ve been discriminated against and given a reason for it, then educate me.

In other words, it is the own fault of Jews that they experience discrimination. Victim shaming at its best.

Coughingdodger · 29/10/2023 17:55

Teentaxidriver · 29/10/2023 16:02

Coughing - I have reported your vile post for anti-semitism. Would you ask a black person why they experience racism? Would you like a person of colour to elucidate why they are othered and dehumanised? Are you really so ill educated that you know nothing of the history of anti-semitism?

More pathetic derailing from the disgusting behaviour by Israel that everyone is condemning.

Coughingdodger · 29/10/2023 17:58

Trulywonderful · 29/10/2023 10:43

Last night after a video emerged showing a woman taking part in the pro-Palestine march through London on Sunday holding an effigy of a dead baby and shouting 'Slaughter the Jews'.

Police are appealing for information to identify her and a second woman, who both led the chant in full view of dozens of onlookers.

One woman in a march of 100,000 people acts inappropriately and you’re outraged. Meanwhile Israel slaughters thousands and thousands of children and not a peep from you.

Coughingdodger · 29/10/2023 18:08

Teentaxidriver · 29/10/2023 16:05

Coughing - I don’t hate Jews (I don’t hate any people as a group) so I don’t know. But if you’ve been discriminated against and given a reason for it, then educate me.

In other words, it is the own fault of Jews that they experience discrimination. Victim shaming at its best.

Victim shaming is when you say that Gazans deserve what is happening to them because of Hamas.

Do you think Gazans deserve what is happening to them because of Hamas?

25milesfromhome · 29/10/2023 18:46

Trulywonderful · 29/10/2023 10:43

Last night after a video emerged showing a woman taking part in the pro-Palestine march through London on Sunday holding an effigy of a dead baby and shouting 'Slaughter the Jews'.

Police are appealing for information to identify her and a second woman, who both led the chant in full view of dozens of onlookers.

The chant they were shouting through a loudhailer was “Khaybar Khaybar, ya yahud, Jaish Muhammad, sa yahud”, translated as “Khaybar, Khaybar, oh Jews, the army of Mohammed will return”, an iconic battle cry, but maybe not one often shared with the Western audience (maybe it’s not as catchy as “From the river to the sea”, I don’t know). You can see videos of it on various social media, I’m not going to link to where I saw it, as that account has received a barrage of abuse already. An explanation:

“Khaybar” is a historic Arabian oasis north of Medina in present-day Saudi Arabia.
This slogan recalls a series of seventh-century battles between Mohammed and local Jews during the first few years of Islam’s establishment.
As retold in the Quran and other textual sources, Mohammed’s forces took action against Jews and these battles resulted in the subjugation, mass expulsion, or slaughter of the area’s tribal Jewish communities.”

Make of that what you will. Feel free to google and correct any inaccuracies as you see them.

Trulywonderful · 29/10/2023 20:51

25milesfromhome · 29/10/2023 18:46

The chant they were shouting through a loudhailer was “Khaybar Khaybar, ya yahud, Jaish Muhammad, sa yahud”, translated as “Khaybar, Khaybar, oh Jews, the army of Mohammed will return”, an iconic battle cry, but maybe not one often shared with the Western audience (maybe it’s not as catchy as “From the river to the sea”, I don’t know). You can see videos of it on various social media, I’m not going to link to where I saw it, as that account has received a barrage of abuse already. An explanation:

“Khaybar” is a historic Arabian oasis north of Medina in present-day Saudi Arabia.
This slogan recalls a series of seventh-century battles between Mohammed and local Jews during the first few years of Islam’s establishment.
As retold in the Quran and other textual sources, Mohammed’s forces took action against Jews and these battles resulted in the subjugation, mass expulsion, or slaughter of the area’s tribal Jewish communities.”

Make of that what you will. Feel free to google and correct any inaccuracies as you see them.

Yes I remember studying this. You have broken it down close enough to what they are going on about.

From what I hear some other unpleasant stuff was said before they got filmed too

The police have found and arrested the two women that were behind this now. They were identified by members of public and names given to the police.

The general public at least under they need to act and not hide these people.

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Stomacharmeleon · 29/10/2023 20:53

Two women have been arrested apparently.

Trulywonderful · 29/10/2023 21:06

Coughingdodger · 29/10/2023 17:58

One woman in a march of 100,000 people acts inappropriately and you’re outraged. Meanwhile Israel slaughters thousands and thousands of children and not a peep from you.

You have a very odd logic

People hear can't do much about what happens in the middle east. What people hear can do is stop hate crimes and incitement to violence in this country. The kind of environment that causes divine in communities does not happen overnight. It builds up over time. People that spread hate whether that be antisemitism or any other hate crime need to be tackled before the rot is considered normal.

Plus this was not one in a crowd of 100k. There was plenty of vile hateful chanting and bubbling of joy at the events. I am only showing the ones the police are particularly wanting to trace. And some iffy doctors and lawyers posting joy at a massacre etc. Frankly the thread is not big enough to name and same the amount of hate speeches posted on social media or made during the march.

You can be in denial all you like about a large percentage of the protesters motives for attending. However a most the general public in this country are not so blind or singular minded. People are appauled at the loss of life in Gaza but they won't stand for people wanting to spread hate and division in this country.

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Teentaxidriver · 29/10/2023 21:13

No Coughing - not disgusting derailing. I am merely pointing out that you are an anti-Semite. It is interesting that I have written nothing about my attitude to the deaths in Gaza.

Trulywonderful · 29/10/2023 21:37

Police told a pro-Palestine demonstrator not to hold a sign with a swastika on it on the streets of London on Saturday, but take no further action.

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etmoietmoietmoi · 29/10/2023 21:39

@Trulywonderful Yikes!

Trulywonderful · 29/10/2023 21:39

The police are following up on reports that a pamphlet was being sold along the route of the march that praised Hamas, the Met has confirmed this on social media.

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Trulywonderful · 29/10/2023 21:47

Not in Britain but Russia. However this is a good example of how things can get out of control and dangerous if protests are not carefully

Hundreds of pro-Palestinian protesters broke into Makhachkala airport, in Russia’s north Caucasus region on Sunday evening, searching for passengers on a flight from Tel Aviv, according to local media and videos posted on social media.

Videos show the rioters, some of whom are draped in Palestinian flags, searching the airport for Jews and storming the airport’s tarmac surrounding a plane with Israelis on it.

Airport staff reportedly told the crowd to pick three leaders to board the plane with a camera to ensure there are no Israelis on it.

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Akatsiya · 29/10/2023 22:13

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Stomacharmeleon · 29/10/2023 22:42

@Akatsiya is it not more than outcome of the Hamas delegation going to Russia to drum up support and declaring them 'great friends'.

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Finlesswonder · 29/10/2023 23:43

Not Jewish. I stand with Israel.

Trulywonderful · 30/10/2023 00:02

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There are now videos from the incident and news reports about it available too

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Trulywonderful · 30/10/2023 00:06

This one is a bystander throwing a can at a pro Palestine protester:

Emma Turvey, 51, of Clarence Road, Grays, Essex, was charged with a public order offence (Section 4A Public Order Act) in relation to an alleged incident in Whitehall where a can of beer was thrown at a protester.

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Trulywonderful · 30/10/2023 00:07

Kadirul Islam, 33, of no fixed address, was charged in relation to alleged racist abuse being shouted in Waterloo Road.

He will appear at Croydon Magistrates’ Court on Friday, December, 1, charged with a racially aggravated public order offence (Section 5 Public Order Act).

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Trulywonderful · 30/10/2023 00:08

Atif Sharif, 41, of Albert Road, Walthamstow, east London, was charged with causing actual bodily harm after an officer was allegedly assaulted and suffered a head injury.

He was remanded in custody to appear at Highbury Corner Magistrates’ Court on Monday, October 30.

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Trulywonderful · 30/10/2023 00:08

Laura Davis, 22, of Hendon Way, Barnet, north London, has been charged with a racially aggravated public order offence (Section 5 Public Order Act) in connection with an allegation that a placard that was ‘threatening and racist in nature’ was displayed in Piccadilly Circus.

She will appear at Westminster Magistrates’ Court on Wednesday, November 29.

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