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The people that don't call those that support Hamas

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Trulywonderful · 24/10/2023 16:32

Such a nice guy with a good morals obviously. What more do you want from a barrister or law firm that hasn't spoken out on this

(Sarcasm)

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Trulywonderful · 29/10/2023 02:09

Police looking for this man that had a sign saying I fully support Hamas

At this rate he is going to trout to be a doctor too

But seriously if anyone knows him then contact Police because they want a word with him.

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Trulywonderful · 29/10/2023 02:10

If you want to see the photo of him clearer just tap it

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FuckingBunts · 29/10/2023 04:25

I actually think all the religious/"person on street" dialogue is all hot air.

People like the ones who have, and will sadly be killed are just being used as pawns.

Some people and organisations (whether they have Muslim or Jewish or Christian names or labels) are, and will be, getting VERY rich on the back of these actions. We probably don't and will never know who most of them are.

They're the ones owning streets in London and penthouses in New York. They have media connections, so of course they can control information flows.

The noisy annoying bloke attending a demonstration or the uncouth settlers captured on film can be the easy scapegoat.

"Women's rights" or "minority rights" only start being publicised when the profit lies in wanting to attack a country or start conflict.

Yeh, everyone suddenly gives a shit about the Uighurs "right to authentically practice Islam". Nothing to do with a trade war with China.

Irans women's rights are suddenly VERY encouraged and important (bear in mind we could take footage from ANY country and edit it and use it as proof that country is collapsing and others should intervene).

If Iran is destabilised in a "colour revolution" (paid for by the USA) who the fuck is going to be taking responsibility for women's safety in the anarchy that follows a collapse of state?

But some "feminists" behind a keyboard in other nations will be banking plenty money from the conflict.

A defence ministers daughter can set up a charity to "Support Iranian Women's Education" and get a cushy role for life and a gong and awards.

How much have defence and weapons stocks risen over the last five years? Who profited from the Afghanistan mess? I think one senior military officer described his job as a "thug for Wall Street".

There's lots of mining companies and aid agency presidents and Directors of NGO funds laughing all the way to the bank, as working class british kids collect their lunch money to help the starving kids they see on the TV.

It's not just the "token bad guys with guns" as well.

Lots of big organisations, charities, "aid companies"...there's so much money in refugees and conflict, they NEED it to keep going.

How much money has flowed into Ukraine, on a tide of publicity and goodwill, to rebuild cities that has just "gone somewhere"?

How much money is being corruptly diverted for the "green" agenda right now? Put "Environment" on it and that's a few million if you're in the right place.

Solidarity goes out of the window for ultra rich people.

I reckon there's "civilised looking" people ostenibly on Israels "side" who profited from those murdered settlers, just as there are "civilised looking" people on the Palestinan "side" profiting from kids being murdered in Gaza.

They'll be sleeping well whilst everyone else is getting worked up and horrified.

The Daily Mail hated Jews for a while, then it was Poles, now its onto brown people. All profit.

And the profits rack up for the owners (and yes, there will be rich Jewish, and Muslim, and Polish people who would and will happily dine with the Rothermeres).

Stopactingsosmall · 29/10/2023 06:21

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Coughingdodger · 29/10/2023 07:37

mollyfolk · 29/10/2023 01:06

i’m not sure what you are saying - that every Palestinian would murder gay people ? So they should be killed? No I don’t agree with anyone who murders anyone else but there is a sense of othering here in your views that is at the very essence of racism. Apparently , you think, all Palestinian’s are murderers, bloodthirsty - so at odd with western values that a common ground could not be found, I don’t agree.

I said that too but I was told I don’t understand this thread.

Coughingdodger · 29/10/2023 07:42

FuckingBunts · 29/10/2023 04:25

I actually think all the religious/"person on street" dialogue is all hot air.

People like the ones who have, and will sadly be killed are just being used as pawns.

Some people and organisations (whether they have Muslim or Jewish or Christian names or labels) are, and will be, getting VERY rich on the back of these actions. We probably don't and will never know who most of them are.

They're the ones owning streets in London and penthouses in New York. They have media connections, so of course they can control information flows.

The noisy annoying bloke attending a demonstration or the uncouth settlers captured on film can be the easy scapegoat.

"Women's rights" or "minority rights" only start being publicised when the profit lies in wanting to attack a country or start conflict.

Yeh, everyone suddenly gives a shit about the Uighurs "right to authentically practice Islam". Nothing to do with a trade war with China.

Irans women's rights are suddenly VERY encouraged and important (bear in mind we could take footage from ANY country and edit it and use it as proof that country is collapsing and others should intervene).

If Iran is destabilised in a "colour revolution" (paid for by the USA) who the fuck is going to be taking responsibility for women's safety in the anarchy that follows a collapse of state?

But some "feminists" behind a keyboard in other nations will be banking plenty money from the conflict.

A defence ministers daughter can set up a charity to "Support Iranian Women's Education" and get a cushy role for life and a gong and awards.

How much have defence and weapons stocks risen over the last five years? Who profited from the Afghanistan mess? I think one senior military officer described his job as a "thug for Wall Street".

There's lots of mining companies and aid agency presidents and Directors of NGO funds laughing all the way to the bank, as working class british kids collect their lunch money to help the starving kids they see on the TV.

It's not just the "token bad guys with guns" as well.

Lots of big organisations, charities, "aid companies"...there's so much money in refugees and conflict, they NEED it to keep going.

How much money has flowed into Ukraine, on a tide of publicity and goodwill, to rebuild cities that has just "gone somewhere"?

How much money is being corruptly diverted for the "green" agenda right now? Put "Environment" on it and that's a few million if you're in the right place.

Solidarity goes out of the window for ultra rich people.

I reckon there's "civilised looking" people ostenibly on Israels "side" who profited from those murdered settlers, just as there are "civilised looking" people on the Palestinan "side" profiting from kids being murdered in Gaza.

They'll be sleeping well whilst everyone else is getting worked up and horrified.

The Daily Mail hated Jews for a while, then it was Poles, now its onto brown people. All profit.

And the profits rack up for the owners (and yes, there will be rich Jewish, and Muslim, and Polish people who would and will happily dine with the Rothermeres).

You’ve absolutely summed it up for me.

Coughingdodger · 29/10/2023 07:48

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This too, absolutely.
Whipping up fear and anger in the many Jewish people who might try to oppose Israel’s disgusting behaviour. Keep them in line so the murder and land/oil grab can proceed.

LondonMummer · 29/10/2023 08:08

@Stopactingsosmall

'just my thoughts, no offence meant...'

Yet you have trotted out almost every antisemitic trope in the book your post:

jews appear less visible as mainly of white appearance , better off, more educated and a strong position yet we are fed that anti semitism has gone up by ten folds since October 7th. Most of this is jews taking offence to social media posts where people are expressing opinions against actions of Israel and not personally attacking jewish individuals.

Read Jews Don't Count. Read the International definition of antisemitism. This IS offensive. Offensive to me.

Also do you have a hotline to the police that somehow means that you have been told personally that 'most' reports of antisemitism are related to social media posts against Israel? Seriously. As if people like me would have the time to report anti every Israel social media post.

LondonMummer · 29/10/2023 08:12

LondonMummer · 29/10/2023 08:08

@Stopactingsosmall

'just my thoughts, no offence meant...'

Yet you have trotted out almost every antisemitic trope in the book your post:

jews appear less visible as mainly of white appearance , better off, more educated and a strong position yet we are fed that anti semitism has gone up by ten folds since October 7th. Most of this is jews taking offence to social media posts where people are expressing opinions against actions of Israel and not personally attacking jewish individuals.

Read Jews Don't Count. Read the International definition of antisemitism. This IS offensive. Offensive to me.

Also do you have a hotline to the police that somehow means that you have been told personally that 'most' reports of antisemitism are related to social media posts against Israel? Seriously. As if people like me would have the time to report anti every Israel social media post.

@Stopactingsosmall which by the way I have never done. I have personally protested about the right wing Israeli government. So this is NOT about people criticising that. It is about people like you making sweeping statements about "the Jews"

etmoietmoietmoi · 29/10/2023 08:47

@Stopactingsosmall
Just my thoughts, no offence intended to anyone. There is a lot of islamphobia and anti semitism, the Muslims are more visible minority , stick out more due to their skin colour, religious attire etc, jews appear less visible as mainly of white appearance , better off, more educated and a strong position yet we are fed that anti semitism has gone up by ten folds since October 7th. Most of this is jews taking offence to social media posts where people are expressing opinions against actions of Israel and not personally attacking jewish individuals. The media adds to well established narrative that jews are under attack or at risk of, which makes jewish people feel psychologically more vulnerable and feel under attack and makes them hyper vigilant.

"No offence intended to anyone" you say, just before you launch a smorgasbord of antisemitic tropes.

Not only that, you sound very confused. On the one hand "there is a lot of....antisemitism" yet on the other "most of this is Jews taking offence".

Stopactingsosmall · 29/10/2023 08:58

Thousand apologies if I sound very confused, I acknowledge and can draw a distinction between real anti semitism and perceived anti semitism engineered in some peopes minds. A lot of communities are becoming more aware with some people crying anti semitism based on their perception and taking offence to others criticism of Israel.

RudsyFarmer · 29/10/2023 08:58

jews appear less visible as mainly of white appearance , better off, more educated and a strong position yet we are fed that anti semitism has gone up by ten folds since October 7th. Most of this is jews taking offence to social media posts where people are expressing opinions against actions of Israel and not personally attacking jewish individuals.

Wow! We’re not even hiding it anymore are we? How could these Jewish people be in anyway persecuted when they are ………. drum roll …….. white 😱and rich!!!

etmoietmoietmoi · 29/10/2023 09:04

Stopactingsosmall · 29/10/2023 08:58

Thousand apologies if I sound very confused, I acknowledge and can draw a distinction between real anti semitism and perceived anti semitism engineered in some peopes minds. A lot of communities are becoming more aware with some people crying anti semitism based on their perception and taking offence to others criticism of Israel.

can draw a distinction between real anti semitism and perceived anti semitism engineered in some peopes minds.

The fucking gumption - you literally just spewed "real anti semitism".

When you say a lot of communities are becoming more aware, I assume you mean more aware that the Jews are lying. You're a raging antisemite. You must be delighted that finally you can be one quite so openly!

Stopactingsosmall · 29/10/2023 09:05

RudsyFarmer · 29/10/2023 08:58

jews appear less visible as mainly of white appearance , better off, more educated and a strong position yet we are fed that anti semitism has gone up by ten folds since October 7th. Most of this is jews taking offence to social media posts where people are expressing opinions against actions of Israel and not personally attacking jewish individuals.

Wow! We’re not even hiding it anymore are we? How could these Jewish people be in anyway persecuted when they are ………. drum roll …….. white 😱and rich!!!

Just stating my opinion no intention to cause offence, the level of hostility differs towards ALL people depending on their colour, age, social status, education, nationality, religion, financial status and so on. I thought this is seen daily everywhere, obvious to see, no one can hide it.

etmoietmoietmoi · 29/10/2023 09:07

@Stopactingsosmall And just as an FYI, I think Jews are better able than you - a random non-Jew that parrots tropes she's seen on social media - to identify when antisemitism is real and when it isn't.

LondonMummer · 29/10/2023 09:08

Stopactingsosmall · 29/10/2023 08:58

Thousand apologies if I sound very confused, I acknowledge and can draw a distinction between real anti semitism and perceived anti semitism engineered in some peopes minds. A lot of communities are becoming more aware with some people crying anti semitism based on their perception and taking offence to others criticism of Israel.

You don't sound confused at all. You sound ignorant at best and just like every other antisemite at worst.

Stopactingsosmall · 29/10/2023 09:15

etmoietmoietmoi · 29/10/2023 09:04

can draw a distinction between real anti semitism and perceived anti semitism engineered in some peopes minds.

The fucking gumption - you literally just spewed "real anti semitism".

When you say a lot of communities are becoming more aware, I assume you mean more aware that the Jews are lying. You're a raging antisemite. You must be delighted that finally you can be one quite so openly!

Never been called anti-semite before, just expressing my opinion.

etmoietmoietmoi · 29/10/2023 09:18

Just stating my opinion no intention to cause offence
Never been called anti-semite before, just expressing my opinion

@Stopactingsosmall Well I'm calling you one now. Stop acting so small and own your fucking racism. I would suggest the first step is to try and understand why your stream of antisemitic slurs above might have led to you being called an antisemite.

LondonMummer · 29/10/2023 09:20

@Stopactingsosmall maybe you've never been called it because you've never shared these offensive views with Jewish people or for that matter any other tolerant person who can spot racism a mile off.

TutuDesi · 29/10/2023 09:21

LondonMummer · 29/10/2023 08:08

@Stopactingsosmall

'just my thoughts, no offence meant...'

Yet you have trotted out almost every antisemitic trope in the book your post:

jews appear less visible as mainly of white appearance , better off, more educated and a strong position yet we are fed that anti semitism has gone up by ten folds since October 7th. Most of this is jews taking offence to social media posts where people are expressing opinions against actions of Israel and not personally attacking jewish individuals.

Read Jews Don't Count. Read the International definition of antisemitism. This IS offensive. Offensive to me.

Also do you have a hotline to the police that somehow means that you have been told personally that 'most' reports of antisemitism are related to social media posts against Israel? Seriously. As if people like me would have the time to report anti every Israel social media post.

Thank you. The increase in anti-Semitic hate crimes are not Jewish communities taking offence to comments on social media or chants of jihad in the streets as these are actually non-crime hate incidents and are counted seperately from the reported increase in hate crimes. Hate crimes are more serious and involve assault/attempted assault, vandalism, and direct threats of death/rape/bodily harm person to person, or say a bomb threat.

The fact the media isn’t reporting the avalanche of non-crime hate incidents and only the hate crimes is an example of how media bias minimises what we are facing as Jewish people in Britain.

On a side note, it is also important to point out that a smaller increase in islamaphobic hate crimes and non-crime hate incidents has also occurred during this same time period. To a certain extent this is also not being widely reported in British news.

People who are neither Jewish nor Muslim are usually the ones committing these hate incidents and hate crimes. There are segments of Britain that see this conflict as an excuse to unmask their bigotry and hatred.

RudsyFarmer · 29/10/2023 09:28

Hiding behind the veneer of faux ignorance to fan the flames a little more.

Rubbishagain · 29/10/2023 09:28

FuckingBunts · 29/10/2023 04:25

I actually think all the religious/"person on street" dialogue is all hot air.

People like the ones who have, and will sadly be killed are just being used as pawns.

Some people and organisations (whether they have Muslim or Jewish or Christian names or labels) are, and will be, getting VERY rich on the back of these actions. We probably don't and will never know who most of them are.

They're the ones owning streets in London and penthouses in New York. They have media connections, so of course they can control information flows.

The noisy annoying bloke attending a demonstration or the uncouth settlers captured on film can be the easy scapegoat.

"Women's rights" or "minority rights" only start being publicised when the profit lies in wanting to attack a country or start conflict.

Yeh, everyone suddenly gives a shit about the Uighurs "right to authentically practice Islam". Nothing to do with a trade war with China.

Irans women's rights are suddenly VERY encouraged and important (bear in mind we could take footage from ANY country and edit it and use it as proof that country is collapsing and others should intervene).

If Iran is destabilised in a "colour revolution" (paid for by the USA) who the fuck is going to be taking responsibility for women's safety in the anarchy that follows a collapse of state?

But some "feminists" behind a keyboard in other nations will be banking plenty money from the conflict.

A defence ministers daughter can set up a charity to "Support Iranian Women's Education" and get a cushy role for life and a gong and awards.

How much have defence and weapons stocks risen over the last five years? Who profited from the Afghanistan mess? I think one senior military officer described his job as a "thug for Wall Street".

There's lots of mining companies and aid agency presidents and Directors of NGO funds laughing all the way to the bank, as working class british kids collect their lunch money to help the starving kids they see on the TV.

It's not just the "token bad guys with guns" as well.

Lots of big organisations, charities, "aid companies"...there's so much money in refugees and conflict, they NEED it to keep going.

How much money has flowed into Ukraine, on a tide of publicity and goodwill, to rebuild cities that has just "gone somewhere"?

How much money is being corruptly diverted for the "green" agenda right now? Put "Environment" on it and that's a few million if you're in the right place.

Solidarity goes out of the window for ultra rich people.

I reckon there's "civilised looking" people ostenibly on Israels "side" who profited from those murdered settlers, just as there are "civilised looking" people on the Palestinan "side" profiting from kids being murdered in Gaza.

They'll be sleeping well whilst everyone else is getting worked up and horrified.

The Daily Mail hated Jews for a while, then it was Poles, now its onto brown people. All profit.

And the profits rack up for the owners (and yes, there will be rich Jewish, and Muslim, and Polish people who would and will happily dine with the Rothermeres).

Never a truer word spoken. Thanks for sharing and putting it so eloquently.

Stopactingsosmall · 29/10/2023 09:32

LondonMummer · 29/10/2023 09:20

@Stopactingsosmall maybe you've never been called it because you've never shared these offensive views with Jewish people or for that matter any other tolerant person who can spot racism a mile off.

Apologies if I caused offence to you.

Coughingdodger · 29/10/2023 09:45

@Stopactingsosmall

Images of white Jews are posted, not the Middle Eastern or Bedouin Jews…

The above is what you posted. You were not being anti-Semitic. You were pointing out that the propaganda you have seen ignores the many Israelis who are not white and only highlights white Israelis so as to make them look more “Western” and “just like us”.

To more effectively contrast them, of course, against the evil brown Hamas terrorists (of which every single brown Gazan, including the 50% who are children, is apparently a member).

Thus othering the brown Gazans as much as possible (while ignoring the racial and demographic realities of Israelis) and whipping up as much hatred as possible.

This was the message I got from your post and you are perfectly correct.

Coughingdodger · 29/10/2023 09:46

RudsyFarmer · 29/10/2023 08:58

jews appear less visible as mainly of white appearance , better off, more educated and a strong position yet we are fed that anti semitism has gone up by ten folds since October 7th. Most of this is jews taking offence to social media posts where people are expressing opinions against actions of Israel and not personally attacking jewish individuals.

Wow! We’re not even hiding it anymore are we? How could these Jewish people be in anyway persecuted when they are ………. drum roll …….. white 😱and rich!!!

Read the post again.