What does 'ceasing responsibility for life' mean?

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I'm sorry for the DM link. I want to know what is meant by Israel 'ceasing responsibility for life' means though. I don't understand.

Here is the BBC reporting on it, it means that Israel will cut all ties with Gaza post-conflict:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67175094

At a guess I'd say that will also mean no border between the two and no permits given for work, medical treatments etc. The Gazans will need to use the Rafah border with Israel.

So, whilst I am more than willing to accept that Hamas leadership likes to spend its foreign aid on whatever the fuck it likes, I now am not quite so sure it’s a simple fait accompli.

Hamas doesn’t get any of the foreign aid. Per the occupation laws of Israel, all humanitarian aid monetary or otherwise goes through Israel and Israel supervises how it is distributed, it is then distributed to UNWRA (it’s why only Palestinians have their own UN refugee agency), and other international organisations like international Red Cross/Red Crescent. Israel also limits how much can be bought and sent into Gaza as aid- food, medicine, etc.

Hamas’ funds are covertly acquired and are from them levying taxes on the hapless Gazan residents. It’s like Mafia “protection money”…

It is why Hamas has decades old or homemade weapons.

Gaza is one of the countries who receives one of the highest levels of aid in the world.
After the war instead of spending that aid in funding terrorism they must spending it in rebuild their country and make more jobs for younger people, create more opportunities for their own people, they have huge unemployment and poverty.

As a matter of fact, Russia submitted cease fire and humanitarian resolution to the UN Security Council that was vetoed by the US. The second resolution was from Brazil asking for a humanitarian pause, also vetoed by the U.S. with the U.K. abstaining.

Russia has been trying for a cease fire and humanitarian aid since the start.

The whole situation is f%#*ed.

Did the Palestinians actually vote Hamas in? Quite a lot of brainwashing seems to have gone on. Maybe on both sides.

It’s so far removed from multi-cultural life in the UK.

They could build a port I suppose, yes.

@Humblebottomous there's a wiki entry on the elections:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election

@Humblebottomous Hamas was voted in

First, Gaza is not a country. It is has no sovreignity. It is a territory occupied by Israel. No aid was spent on terrorism because all aid has been closely supervised by Israel and the UN. They could not “create opportunities” due to the blockade since 2005. Attempts were made but were all sabotaged by manipulation of the blockade.

If Israel lifts the sea blockade. Several NGOs have attempted to run the blockade to bring humanitarian aid to Gaza since 2005. All have failed.

If Gaza, post-war, is still being run by extremists who attack Israel then the blockades will continue and yes they will struggle to run and country and rebuild anything.

Thats what the records say, but seriously, do you think Hamas would count the votes for Fatah honestly? And not round people up at gunpoint and demand they vote for them or their sister will be….well you know…violence violence death, burn your house down.

So Israel will still control Gaza? They will still be using collective punishment on 2.2million people? You can't say you are having nothing to do with a country whilst you still control them.

Was it a real and fair election or was it rigged in any way?

They won't do the job as gate keepers to Gaza like they were asked to do by the UN anymore. Once they pull out ground troops. They will treat Gaza like any other neighbouring state. Someone else like Egypt or the UN will have to police them from now on Israel has frankly had enough. If they were to help in anyway or stay to rebuild people will say they are land grabbing Gaza. The fact the willingly gave up Gaza in 2005 seems to be forgotten. Israel has never wanted Gaza anyway that land isn't seen as part of Israel even by settler idiots. Only a had full of Jews lived there and had to leave in 2005. The UN can't ask them to be gate keepers then complain for years about them not doing it properly. So the UN can sort that out themselves know as far as Israel is concerned. Once they do heaven knows what in a ground assault. They are no longer playing ball to international demands to do things for a place that they have always seen as a foreign country.

This all has a terrible after affect on Gazen citizens. I they will supply water and a few other things for a set agreed amount of time. Long enough for alternative supplies to be made available. It is also sad the Gazens that were coming to work in Israel each day will be stopped on top of possibly losing their houses. Not seeing them being allowed across the border now and unemployment is terrible in Gaza even before this.

So Israel will still control Gaza? They will still be using collective punishment on 2.2million people? You can't say you are having nothing to do with a country whilst you still control them.

No, they'll just control their border. The USA for instance doesn't control Mexico.

In practical terms, yes it'll be shit for Gaza but what choice will Israel have if that's that or give free rein to terrorist attacks?

I don't know. It doesn't change things, they are the leaders. Would you want to live next door to them?

@Trulywonderful But if Israel does not want Gaza, why did Eli Cohen say that Gaza's territory will be decreased after the war?

Are you saying that Mexico have no ports or airports? Have no control over their airspace? Or are you saying that Israel will give let Gaza have seaports and airports?

Why do they need permission from Israel when the bottom border of gaza meets Egypt? Why can't Egypt just send trucks over that bit?

Also with regards to water, gaza has sea on one side, why don't they have desalination plants?

And why don't they produce any of their own food?

If this situation now has always been a possibility, why haven't they taken measures to be self sufficient?

I'm just curious - for those people who are strong supporters of Hamas and the Palestinian struggle - and that strategy that they have employed over the last 75 and more years - how's that working out for the people of Gaza? Is it going they way you hoped?

What on earth makes you think Gaza doesn't produce any food? Gaza has farmers as Israel well knows, they like to use them as target practice.

It was as fair as it could be made really. Not as bad as some places but not like say the UK. Also was nearly 20 years ago.

The majority of Palestinian citizens have said in surveys since the 2021 rocket conflict that they blame for causing conflict. They also blame Hamas for unemployment and utility issues. However they have majority stated they want the dismantling of Israel.

If they had another election befthis conflict and it was fair. I believe the Palestinians would have voted out Hamas. Probably for a party that stated it wanted to dismantle but was mostly interested in solving unemployment and improving living conditions.

I don't think you will find any supporters of Hamas here, nevermind strong supporters.

People are saying they are being starved? And dehydrated?