The Return of the First Time Frolickers guest starring our friend Agnyss Cactus - join us as we wage war against the Evil Red Tide of Doom (hereafter known as ERTD)

[Ariesgirl]

For anyone old and new trying to conceive their first child. Lovely friendly ladies with a penchant for acronyms, charts and unsuitable snacks await your arrival with open arms. Here's the blatantly copied and pasted List from the last thread. If anything's wrong, I absolve myself of any responsibility!

evilgiraffe TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL 28?! CD137
claireinthecommunity TTC#1 cycle12 UCL29 CD50
Junglebob TTC#1, Cycle 6, UCL31-36, CD49
PinkiePooTTC 1 Cycle 4 UCL 28-64 cd 40
wakarimasen TTC#1, Cycle 2, UCL25ish, CD39
Florin TTC#1 Cycle 3 UCL ??? CD34
takethatlady TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL32 CD34
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 12 UCL33-39 CD32
LankyLady TTC#1 cycle UCL29, CD28
Womanlytales TTC#1, Cycle 3, UCL28-33, CD26
Muser TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL 28, CD24
Saor Alba TTC #1, cycle 1, UCL?, CD19
StreathamRanger TTC #1 Cycle 7, UCL ?, CD19
Superpenguin TTC#1 cycle 1, UCL29, CD15
Mrs Wajs TTC#1 cycle 10, UCL 29-32 CD15
Lipstie TTC#1 Cycle11 UCL25-28 CD14
cherrycobbler TTC#1 cycle 5, UCL32 CD10
Ariesgirl TTC#1 cycle 5 UCL 29-32 CD9
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 11 UCL31 CD9
almostknockedupgirl TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL 26-28 CD4
Kaloki TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL30? CD1
SarahAvon TTC #1 cycle 1, UCL 28-30 CD??

Not counting days
haloflo TTC#1 cycle 6
Bellaby cycle 2

Waiting to TTC
Calyx
Sevans
FelicityFlick
CaveMum
calligraphy82
hairytriangle

MIA (stopped counting cds)
Stellybelly TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD115
blueberry noo TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31-32 CD89
CJ2007 TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL26/7 CD74
mrscinco TTC#1 Cycle 8 UCL 27-32 CD61
Hoping TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 32 CD89
lipstie TTC#1 Cycle7 UCL26-28 CD77
lucieloo TTC#1 cycle 5 UCL 24-32 CD69
LinzRed TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD77
Stiffybyng TTC#1 cycle UCL28 CD75
misshoohaa TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL-28-35 CD56
Headbanger TTC #1 Cycle 3 UCL 24 CD68
chico193 TTC#1 cycle ? UCL36 CD56
Dinkytinky TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL27 CD48
Claire 196 TTC#1 cycle2 UCL 25-28 CD46
moulesfrites TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL 28 CD42

Graduates:
Trying4Baby1 BFP 21Aug
Kaystar BFP 27Aug
Pepperonipizza BFP 12Sep
Fulhamgirl BFP 18Sep
Ladyemmalou83 BFP 13Oct
bluesnowfalcon BFP 14 Oct
DesperateHousewife21 3rd Nov
Spirael BFP 7 Nov
Curlycasper BFP 11 Nov
Sky27 BFP ???
EmsieRo BFP 16 Nov
vix206 BFP 8 Dec
HypotheticalMummy BFP 9 Dec
Ozziegirly BFP 16 Dec
NovemberAli BFP 24 Dec
Eleanora BFP 28 Dec
whiteroses BFP 11 Jan
hamsterlover BFP 11 Jan
Hobnob76 BFP 17 Jan
MadameG BFP 17 Jan
pixiestix BFP 18 Jan
ceebs05 BFP 22 Jan
addie81 BFP 28 Jan
WorrisomeHeart BFP 29 Jan
chancewouldbeafinething BFP 1 Feb
Hermya321 BFP 12 Feb
fudgecat BFP 19 Feb
honeymoo BFP ??
Pidgin BFP 27 Feb
YorkshireTeaDrinker BFP 29 Feb
DrewsGirl BFP 4 March
bunnygirl80 BFP 12 March
Mumnerves BFP 1 April
Spanishlady BFP 3 April
luckyseven BFP 8 April
Capricorn76 12 April
Homebound 30 April
Starberries BFP ?
Oneof8 BFP 18 May
seablue BFP ?
Aly323 BFP 20 May
applecharlotte BFP 29 May
chalky3 BFP 30 May
papertiger BFP 31 May
Wannamummy BFP 1 June
Pipsicles BFP 6 June

karstan to save you looking for it this is the Graduates thread.

florin and haloflo keeping my fingers crossed that your symptoms stick around and that you have good news in the coming weeks.

Right, off to cook my dinner!

Hmmm, no idea what happened there, I'm on a public computer and I appear to have posted as someone else!

Right, reposting as me now

I'm not really stressed about the having a baby side of it at all. I've been around babies a fair bit, changing nappies etc. as my cousins are over 15 years younger than me. I've got a biology degree and it included a number of human physiology modules (one lecture someone bought a placenta in - it was amazing!). I'm sure pregnancy will still bring surprises but it's not that info I'm after, as it's pretty easy to find.

It's the practical information that relates to my local area I want to find and it frustrates me that this information isn't online. I know that one of my friends can't attend her closest hospital because it's in a different primary care trust. Is this the case across the country? Do I have to be under an endocrinologist because of the hypothyroidism?

Karstan, I can't promise it will be the same for you but when I spoke to a nurse at my GP surgery she told me I can choose between either of the two maternity units near me as there is no maternity unit in our town and we are equidistant between the others. They are in two separate counties - Suffolk and Cambridgeshire - so I can't believe that they fall under the same primary care trust.

Why not make an appointment with your GP just to talk things through. I made an appointment before coming off the Pill to get a general check up and use the opportunity to ask questions.

Gosh, how do you keep up with this thread? So many posts to read!

Still no sign of AF, but I've had a funny metallic taste in my mouth for the past few days. I know that's supposedly a pregnancy symptom, but I've had it toward the end of the last several cycles as well as once when I knew there was no chance I was pregnant (day after AF ended). Anyone know what causes it? I suppose when I've had it toward the end of my cycle there could have been something trying to implant but not quite succeeding. But at the beginning of a cycle?

Someone (sorry, I've completely forgotten who) asked how I broke my collarbone. The short answer is, I was riding my pushbike, and then I wasn't.

Just for a bit of added fun in my life, my entire group at work have been summoned to an 'urgent meeting' with a senior manager tomorrow morning. This has happened before, and the thing the senior person tells everyone is usually rather trivial, but it's hard not to worry. Unemployment is the absolute last thing I need at the moment.

Tomboywife this is a fairly slow day! You're right though, it is hard to keep up at times.

Symptom-wise I guess it is a question of knowing what is normal for you.

Sorry to hear about your accident. Collar-bones are not a fun thing to break - I work in horseracing so I know plenty of people who've done the same!

Fingers crossed your work meeting is nice and dull.

What's everyone up to this evening? I'm sat on the sofa with a large glass of wine waiting for Gok to start on tv.

Kaloki how are you feeling? Pleased the tribunal went well - but worried about your pains!

Evil/Halo your symptons sound promising!!

You ladies deserve BFPs (we all do clearly) but would make my day if you guys got them. Plus we are due a few - its been a while!

Cave I'm watching Gok - but it's a man is being 'Goked' this week! Hmmmm

Am waiting for The Silence to start on BBC1 as kind of watched the last 2...

I've had a general appointment with my GP before starting TTC and to check Thyroid levels were ok etc. I just forgot to ask any sensible questions Seems silly to waste her time again. Just impatient I guess.

Bleeding seems to have stopped now, so not sure what that was all about.

As for what I'm up to this evening, I'm currently watching a mega thunderstorm and wondering whether I really should be on the computer. Summer storms are ace though

Hey caveMum I have been for a back clicking appointment (Osteopath lol) soo relieving hearing all the cracks :0)
The I went for a nice body treatment Then home to watch Spartacus thingy ( DH has control of tv tonight!) but hey god that is a good programme the men are soooo fit!!
Finish AF so back to the TTC malarkey now lol x

Womanly Sorry you have to repeat bloods, hope it's nothing too major. I haven't been to Chania, only Malia (classy) and Agios Nikolas so can't offer any suggestions on that front!

Karstan I have the opposite problem with the no.2's (TMI) other symptoms I have found are coldness - that is the worst one, dry skin, reduced libido (always helpful for TTC) and my weight. I don't think it's really concrete stuff tho as I have sufferred a lot of it for a long time and had always just put it down to my norm but since TTC I have considered that it may be thyroid related?! Suppose I'll know more when I visit docs. Also don't want to get hopes up but have you considered that your little bleed may have been implantation??

Feel as though I'm jumping on the band wagon a bit here lanky and kkas but I have also felt this cycle that maybe a break is a good idea?! Maybe it's the 1 year itch!?? I just feel like I've been so 'good' and done everything I should have and still no baby! I'm almost starting to resent lack of pregnant-ness as I feel I'm putting off things I might ordinarily have done because it involves too much of what I shouldn't be doing, i.e going to festivals and getting drunk etc! I know that sounds selfish and maybe some would question my desire/readiness for a baby but I'm just getting so pissed off with nothing happening! Grr clearly night shift is affecting the rational part of my brain!

Florin Your symptoms do sound very promising, I'm keeping my fingers tightly crossed for you! Maybe we will have a holiday baby after all!

Kaloki I'm glad to hear the tribunal went well and hoping for you that the cramps you've been experiencing are something and nothing.

Welcome to cherrytomato hope you've settled in fine and you stay here is short and sweet!

Sorry I know I've missed a heap of you but my brain has turned to mush and I need to go to bed now! Final 8th night tonight then 6 days off - yippeeeeeee

Sorry kaloki just read that back and I didn't mean to sound dismissive of your cramping, I just mean that I hope it's nothing serious.x

I know the opposite problem is more normal for hypo, I think they were prob testing me for hyper.

In the end they reckoned the hypo meant I wasn't digesting stuff properly so too many nutrients ended up in the bowel which upset bacterial balance.

Tiredness I'd attributed to doing too much and getting older, dry hair = too much swimming, being a bit down = having to move back to my parents after living abroad, cold all the time = always been a bit nesh, hair not really growing on legs = I wasn't complaining!

Re: the bleeding, I think it's too early for implantation bleeding, at 5 dpo

Anyway enough about me,

Fingers crossed for you Florin

Good news about the tribunal kaloki, must be a relief

alien enjoy the fun bit ahead

MrsWajs Don't worry, didn't sound dismissive

Pains are still going strong and no sign of ERTD. The GP has given me painkillers that are meant to ease the cramps, he seems to think that easing the cramps will bring on ERTD and hopefully stop the cramps. Can't help feeling a little cynical about that. But we shall see, I'm going to try and get an appointment tomorrow to see him.

MrsWajs I totally know what you mean. We are heading to a festival in a few weeks and dont want to be on the sodding 2 week wait and not drink, only to then find out shitty period arrives a few days later. So not sure I am going to bother with temping and just give it a break. Starting to feel quite fed up of it and it would just be nice to forget about it for a change.

I think you should book what you want to and just let your hair down to be honest. When the little buggers arrive you won't be able to do any of that!

Kaloki are your cramps bad enough to warrant you to go to A&E? Just thinking what you said about an ectopic, hopefully it's not that - but jsut worried that you seem to fobbed off. Tell me to shut up if I am talking crap.

Hmm, slow news day today.

If anyone is in need of a laugh I've just read the strangest funniest thread I think I have ever seen.

It is several months old but someone linked to it on the "Which Thread Got You Hooked on Mumsnet" thread.

er-to-move enjoy

Grr, that didn't work!

Trying again

cavemum that is such a cute post you linked to although makes me more desperate to have kids they do some really cute things!
I am knacked but then had a very tiring long weekend even ended up going to bed as soon as I got in last night from work at 6pm and had an hours nap! Today I had extremely mild stomach cramps though so now not feeling very hopeful
I second Lankylegs might as well get on and enjoy ourselves while we can. None of us know how long it will take and silly to miss out on things playing the "what if" game. Hard though. We are talking about going on a big family holiday with my parents and my dsis and bil next summer however I have no idea if there will be 2 or 3 of us joining or if I will be pregnant. I am not planning to book it until 5 months before so we don't have to miss it if I am heavily pregnant however we are going to plan it all out with them so we are ready to book. If we didn't and then they are went and we didn't and we still were not pregnant we would feel very fed up and left out!

ERTD showed up today. So hopefully the cramps will piss off now! Onto cycle 9.. can't believe it's been that long!

Friday list:

evilgiraffe TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL 28?! CD168
TomboyWife TTC#1, Cycle 7, UCL28, CD??many
Lipstie TTC#1 Cycle 11, UCL25-28 CD45
haloflo TTC #1 cycle 7, UCL 26-33 CD31
Florin TTC#1 Cycle 4 UCL ??? CD29
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 13 UCL33-39 CD28
Womanlytales TTC#1, Cycle 4, UCL28-33, CD27
Karstan TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL28, CD21
Saor Alba TTC #1, cycle 2 UCL32 CD18
Ariesgirl TTC#1 cycle 5 UCL 29-32 CD14
cherrycobbler TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL 32 CD13
Mrs Wajs TTC#1 cycle 11, UCL 29-33 CD13
IfAtFirstYouDon'tSuceed TTC#1, Cycle 4, UCL 28, CD9
Alien06 TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL??, CD7
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 12 UCL32 CD6
LankyLegs TTC#1 Cycle 10 UCL 27-29 CD3
Kaloki TTC#1 cycle 9 UCL32 CD1

Not counting days
Bellaby cycle 2
Miffles TTC#1 cycle?
Kurlyvoice
Chalky3

Waiting to TTC
Calyx
Sevans
FelicityFlick
CaveMum
calligraphy82
hairytriangle

MIA (stopped counting cds)
Stellybelly TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD116
blueberry noo TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31-32 CD90
CJ2007 TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL26/7 CD75
mrscinco TTC#1 Cycle 8 UCL 27-32 CD62
Hoping TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 32 CD90
lucieloo TTC#1 cycle 5 UCL 24-32 CD70
LinzRed TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD78
Stiffybyng TTC#1 cycle UCL28 CD76
misshoohaa TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL-28-35 CD57
Headbanger TTC #1 Cycle 3 UCL 24 CD69
chico193 TTC#1 cycle ? UCL36 CD57
Dinkytinky TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL27 CD49
Claire 196 TTC#1 cycle2 UCL 25-28 CD47
moulesfrites TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL 28 CD43
Junglebob TTC#1, Cycle 6, UCL31-36 CD51
wakarimasen TTC#1, Cycle 2, UCL25ish, CD46
Florin TTC#1 Cycle 3 UCL ??? CD52
takethatlady TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL32 CD52
StreathamRanger TTC #1 Cycle 7, UCL ?, CD37
Bobby12 TTC1 Cycle 3 UCL 29 CD30

Recent Graduates:
Seablue BFP 1 May
Oneof8 BFP 18 May
Aly323 BFP 20 May
applecharlotte BFP 29 May
papertiger BFP 31 May
Wannamummy BFP 1 June
Pipsicles BFP 6 June
Saltyair BFP 17 June
Muser BFP 22 June
Superpenguin BFP 1 July

Just to add, that wasn't meant as a slight to anyone on a later cycle, just feels half like I've been TTC forever, and half like it's barely been long at all. Very odd feeling.

Kaloki Not taken in the wrong context at all, I think as the cycles go on it feels more surreal, that's what I've found anyway. When I first started TTC I almost thought (naively) how great it would be to conceive quickly, then as things progress you get a bit more realistic and I suppose prepare yourself more for it. And then after a good while you start to think it will never happen at all, although I certainly think now that I will appreciate it so much more as it hasn't just been handed to me on a plate! Isn't it funny how things work out, I remember when first TTC how nervous/excited I was and wondering if we were doing the right thing etc etc and now although that was a bit nerve-wracking it's a bit sad that I don't really feel that buzz about it now and probably won't until I get the elusive BFP!

Lanky agree that there comes a time when you have to stop planning around the will I/won't I be pregnant scenario!! Thought maybe I should add to my last post that there are other things I have put off other than festival attendance!! Don't want you all getting the wrong idea about me!! Other examples include - not booking a much cheapness Caribbean holiday (didn't fancy flying 10 hours whilst heavily pregnant) and also the ordering of my bridesmaid dress for friends wedding (incase alterations were required) sadly haven't been able to put the dress ordering off any longer as wedding is in October so it has now arrived in all it's boned/corsetted, size 12 glory, so really an imminent BFP now will not impress my friend very much!
Which festival are you going to btw? I have only ever done scottish ones - T and Rockness but would love to try Glasto some year, there's just something about the festival atmosphere that you can't beat! I really don't mind the camping side of it either - much to the disgust of a lot of my friends!

Florin Hope the cramps stay away for you my dear.

Cavemum Loved the sock monster story! Oh to be a child again, nothing to worry about except your imaginary friend suffocating in mummy's sock!! I had an imaginary friend when I was little - she was a mouse called Ellie! No idea where she came from or where she went but she stuck around til I was about 4 I think!

AF arrived at my house this morning, which is slightly disappointing in that I had a (naive) hope I might be pg already, but is otherwise good news. Finally, the end of The Longest Cycle Eva.

In other news, I found out yesterday that my entire group at work is relocating next year. If I don't want to relocate (which I don't), I can try to transfer sideways before the move or I can take redundancy. I've got at least a year to sort it out, but file firmly under "things I don't need".

After the meeting in which we were told the news, we all went off for a liquid lunch and never came back.

TomboyWife TTC#1, Cycle 8, UCL28, CD1

Oh for goodness sake!!!!! I just wrote a long and detailed respsone to people and the bluddy computer crashed!!!

I don't have time to write it all out again but brief points:

• Sorry to kaloki about ERTD, that sucks

• MrsWajs know how you feel about the planning things around a non-existant pregnancy, I think we are all guilty of that to some extent

• TomBoy also sorry to hear about ERTD, but at least the mega cycle is over

Must dash, happy Friday everyone!

Morning.

kaloki Sorry about ERTD, I hope those cramps will be gone soon.

tomboy Sorry about ERTD and work stuff. Hopefully you are due some luck next cycle.

florin I wasn't sure if I had cramps yesterday or if it was just (TMI alert!) constipation? Hope they stay away for you though.

As for me, the days are going oh so slowly at the moment. I keep thinking one day at a time though and am standing firm about not testing at the moment.

I hope everyone else is ok and has better weather than those of us in northern England. (Wind, rain - it looks like autumn! )

TomBoy also meant to say sorry to hear your news about your job. The one positive, if you can call it that, is that you have a year to sort things out.

haloflo keeping my fingers firmly crossed for you. If you don't mind me asking when do you think you will test?