The Return of the First Time Frolickers guest starring our friend Agnyss Cactus - join us as we wage war against the Evil Red Tide of Doom (hereafter known as ERTD)

[Ariesgirl]

For anyone old and new trying to conceive their first child. Lovely friendly ladies with a penchant for acronyms, charts and unsuitable snacks await your arrival with open arms. Here's the blatantly copied and pasted List from the last thread. If anything's wrong, I absolve myself of any responsibility!

evilgiraffe TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL 28?! CD137
claireinthecommunity TTC#1 cycle12 UCL29 CD50
Junglebob TTC#1, Cycle 6, UCL31-36, CD49
PinkiePooTTC 1 Cycle 4 UCL 28-64 cd 40
wakarimasen TTC#1, Cycle 2, UCL25ish, CD39
Florin TTC#1 Cycle 3 UCL ??? CD34
takethatlady TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL32 CD34
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 12 UCL33-39 CD32
LankyLady TTC#1 cycle UCL29, CD28
Womanlytales TTC#1, Cycle 3, UCL28-33, CD26
Muser TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL 28, CD24
Saor Alba TTC #1, cycle 1, UCL?, CD19
StreathamRanger TTC #1 Cycle 7, UCL ?, CD19
Superpenguin TTC#1 cycle 1, UCL29, CD15
Mrs Wajs TTC#1 cycle 10, UCL 29-32 CD15
Lipstie TTC#1 Cycle11 UCL25-28 CD14
cherrycobbler TTC#1 cycle 5, UCL32 CD10
Ariesgirl TTC#1 cycle 5 UCL 29-32 CD9
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 11 UCL31 CD9
almostknockedupgirl TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL 26-28 CD4
Kaloki TTC#1 cycle 8 UCL30? CD1
SarahAvon TTC #1 cycle 1, UCL 28-30 CD??

Not counting days
haloflo TTC#1 cycle 6
Bellaby cycle 2

Waiting to TTC
Calyx
Sevans
FelicityFlick
CaveMum
calligraphy82
hairytriangle

MIA (stopped counting cds)
Stellybelly TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD115
blueberry noo TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 31-32 CD89
CJ2007 TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL26/7 CD74
mrscinco TTC#1 Cycle 8 UCL 27-32 CD61
Hoping TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL 32 CD89
lipstie TTC#1 Cycle7 UCL26-28 CD77
lucieloo TTC#1 cycle 5 UCL 24-32 CD69
LinzRed TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD77
Stiffybyng TTC#1 cycle UCL28 CD75
misshoohaa TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL-28-35 CD56
Headbanger TTC #1 Cycle 3 UCL 24 CD68
chico193 TTC#1 cycle ? UCL36 CD56
Dinkytinky TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL27 CD48
Claire 196 TTC#1 cycle2 UCL 25-28 CD46
moulesfrites TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL 28 CD42

Graduates:
Trying4Baby1 BFP 21Aug
Kaystar BFP 27Aug
Pepperonipizza BFP 12Sep
Fulhamgirl BFP 18Sep
Ladyemmalou83 BFP 13Oct
bluesnowfalcon BFP 14 Oct
DesperateHousewife21 3rd Nov
Spirael BFP 7 Nov
Curlycasper BFP 11 Nov
Sky27 BFP ???
EmsieRo BFP 16 Nov
vix206 BFP 8 Dec
HypotheticalMummy BFP 9 Dec
Ozziegirly BFP 16 Dec
NovemberAli BFP 24 Dec
Eleanora BFP 28 Dec
whiteroses BFP 11 Jan
hamsterlover BFP 11 Jan
Hobnob76 BFP 17 Jan
MadameG BFP 17 Jan
pixiestix BFP 18 Jan
ceebs05 BFP 22 Jan
addie81 BFP 28 Jan
WorrisomeHeart BFP 29 Jan
chancewouldbeafinething BFP 1 Feb
Hermya321 BFP 12 Feb
fudgecat BFP 19 Feb
honeymoo BFP ??
Pidgin BFP 27 Feb
YorkshireTeaDrinker BFP 29 Feb
DrewsGirl BFP 4 March
bunnygirl80 BFP 12 March
Mumnerves BFP 1 April
Spanishlady BFP 3 April
luckyseven BFP 8 April
Capricorn76 12 April
Homebound 30 April
Starberries BFP ?
Oneof8 BFP 18 May
seablue BFP ?
Aly323 BFP 20 May
applecharlotte BFP 29 May
chalky3 BFP 30 May
papertiger BFP 31 May
Wannamummy BFP 1 June
Pipsicles BFP 6 June

Hello everyone,
Zippys Agree with Lanky the vaginal scan is really easy and not intrusive at all. It's the HSG where they send fluid into you to check if your tubes are clear that was AWFUL - I felt so violated...and it wasn't just in my mind - my tubes just closed up in protest.... Not ideal and had I known it was that invasive and horrible - I would have tried meditation to relax and help my case....because the alternative was a laproscopic procedure to check me out.
Any case -- that's in the past and all's well that ends well...
MrsWajs I do hope this month is lucky for you and you find that stress-free zone everybody refers to that works magic

I woke up this morning wondering if it's my longish ovulation period that throws me off each cycle -- ie I end up being depressed a lot and tend to over-eat like MAD!!!
The follicle monitoring hasn't helped pinpoint ovulation I feel let down by the medical staff who're just terribly vague. On Mon last week I went in and was delighted that there was a 'dominant' follicle. On Weds, the follicle was not growing fast enough so the doctor was not happy kinda preparing me for the worst...and then the following MONDAY my stupid phone throws up a voice message recording when the hospital called me on Thursday to say I might be ovulating sometime Fri - Sun. Just like the past cycles, DH falls sick everytime we get to the 'fertile' week So all in all we didn't manage to TTC every other day even To top it off this week Tues I get all this EWCM so not sure if I am ovulating this week If I take a 32 day cycle then Weds is 14 days before CD32 and perhaps when I ovulate and not like the doctors said - over the weekend.
DH feels that I don't want to focus on the positives -- Like there is a follicle to begin with and that we're having some sex instead of none at all...
I don't know - I want to 'take a break' from it all - - but I SO WANT to have a child.
It doesn't help that I have two stones to lose - which EVERYBODY says will help me get over the PCO condition...and yet I am not 'trying hard' like my gp says. DH also said that while I am doing everything to get pregnant, I am not as committed to losing weight.... and that just made me eat some more!!! We have a holiday coming up next week and I am not excited. GP feels I've got classic depression symptoms... I so want to fight this and be positive and healthy...I just don't know what I can do to get myself back on track.
And then you read about how some women just accidentally fall pregnant and you really wonder -- what the f* - - only to then promptly feel guilty that I no longer can be happy for others.... I don't like what I have become really...
Am going for Race for life on Sat - looking forward to that...

Zippys When I went for my scans they asked me to empty my bladder or else it would throw up errors... Perhaps that was because it was scheduled for the first half of my cycle - Day 8 - 12.
Mrswajs The ex really sounds awful - does she realize how much of grief she causes you guys - - Terrible how mean some folks are -- makes you wonder what they need to do to sustain this kind of petty behavior!!!
Lanky Hope they accept your offer
Aries and cavemum - am heading off to read Spirals' story - -

Hello to everyone else and waves to halo - hope you're keeping well. and kaloki has the cramping stopped -- fingers crossed for you and lots of baby dust.

Oh another question - when they say 'Right' ovary -- do they mean our 'right' or their 'right'?

Womanly I do hope you are ok - you sound like you have a lot to contend with at the moment. I do know what you mean about giving up on the TTC thing - but the thing is that we all want babies quite bad! I am sorry the follicle scans have been up and down as well - but sounds like some positive news. I think TTC to can its toll on the other half as well. I try not to talk about it too much with the DH and have to stop myself sometimes . I do think you should try and embrace this holiday you have coming up and really try and have a lovely time - and put the TTC to the back of your mind. I found when we were on holiday it was the last thing I was thinking about and we just were totally relaxed and enjoyed the sun and break from working lives. You owe it to yourself to just go for it and enjoy it.

With regards to losing weight - I'm not sure what works for you, and I have not tried to loose lots of weight before so forgive me if I sound patronizing - but the way I programme myself is that during the week I am healthy and avoid bad foods - keep lots of water at my desk along with nuts, seeds and fruit for when I feel the need to gaze. Then at the weekends I let go - we go out for dinner loads and allow myself treats etc. I don't feel as bad as I know I will be back on track on Monday. Its great that you are doing the race for life - doing these sorts of things can spur you on and motivate you to do other things. I also like evening walks after dinner (esp now that the evenings are long) and it also stops us just slouching on the sofa all night and its nice to chat to DH without being glued to the TV.

Anyway - sorry if these things are not helpful

Errr - you have now made me think about right and left ovary...... hmmmm.... something I will ask the GP when I see them next! I assume our right and not theirs....

Sounds like things are shit at the moment Womanly . Thinking of you.

lankylegs They apparently have no bookable appts this week, and I have to ring up at 8am tomorrow as they may have some free then.

womanlytales I really do feel your pain with the losing weight, it's so fucking difficult. We'll manage though! You aren't alone!

Still cramping, still at the same time every night.

Also, just been into town to get a new bra and thought I'd get fitted at the same time. I've gone from 34C to 36D!!

This is very suspicious Kaloki. Do forgive me if you've done this already (I can't remember), but have you had a doc give you a pg blood test? I wish my boobs would enlarge to that extent, but I am still firmly a member of the A team, B on a good day!

kaloki, I'm with Aries, it all sounds very promising.

womanly sorry you are having a rough time. Feel free to rant away, that's one of the best things about a chatroom.

Ariesgirl I'm kind of wishing they'd go back to C cup, D cup plus upper back problems isn't ideal! (Though I am still kinda chuffed about having bigger boobs)

Haven't managed to see the Doc yet. Hopefully I will on Friday.

LankyLegs ooh all sounds v exciting on the house front, my DP and I are the same. I fall in love with a property, yet he has his sensible hat on and also is master of tipexing floor plans for walls to all be moved! I thought our current house was perfect for babies, 3 bed, big drive, garage, garden, big lounge and dining room, then my FIL(to be) highlights the fact that we couldnt have a pram in the hall (small hall) and this could cause problems, and they dont even know we are trying!

Kaloki not trying to get your hopes up as I know that can be bad BUT bigger bra sounds promising. That is one thing I am dreading about BFP is bigger boobs, they are already a 32GG .

Womanly I know how you feel, I am getting to be a bitter twisted TTC obsessed woman as well. I can also totally understand how you feel re weight. I have lost a stone but now fallen back into old habits. Food is such a comfort for me and I use it as an emotional crutch far to much. Your post is almost as if I have posted it, down to wanted to have a break from TTC but also wanting a baby SO SO much!! I know I wont have helped much but at least you know someone else feels the same and you are not alone.

Aries do you want some of my boobage - I would happily give some away

Well results of ultrasound, the lady was so so nice we were chatting away for ages. I am so thankful that LankyLegs gave me ann update as I wouldnt have asked any questions otherwise and would have waited till consultants.

She first did scan of belly (with full bladder) and thought womb lining looked a little thin, so she needed to do an internal one, which required an empty bladder. That showed lining was actually fine and that follicle on right side (my right side) was ready to to release egg - so SWI required for next few days (although DP away on FRi night - grr) So generally everything fine she could see no problems. So good news but also doesnt tell me why I am not pregnant yet!!

Oh and while I am in rant mode, this morning I was driving to the hospital and saw the person that used to bully me at school and she was bloody pregnant and blooming I felt like I wanted to cry!! Then I get to the ultrasound waiting room and there are notices re costs of baby pictures of ultrasound and two couples obviously there for scans, just made me feel like a like crap, the fact that I was there alone as I was broken (if I had asked DP he would have been there, but I didnt really need him there apart from to stop making me feel like I am broken!!!)

Right I am off before I rant anymore!!!

Zippys So pleased it went well - get shagging before DP goes away wont you!! That is so encouraging....
Just a little word of warning Zippys my DH was pleased with scan results (clearly) - but I think he started worrying that there might be something wrong with him now since my tests have come back relatively ok - am praying now that his results are fine - honestly I would rather have something wrong with me than him - not sure his male ego could take it if you know what I mean....

Oh god - when I got to the ultrasound unit there were (and yes I counted) 12 pregnant women that came and went while I had to wait for my scan (which totally just made me think I am a baron wasteland who can't house a baby) they were all very smug with their OH. But wait for it - guess what they had (which was icing on the cake) - a TV showing a channel called babytv.tv??! Oh yes - selling loads of baby crap and adverts for nannies and god knows what else - I watched all the adverts on loop 6 times

Kaloki Bazooka's are getting big girl?! Positive sign.... good luck with getting the appt - you have to be persevere and don't take any shite from the receptionists!

Lanks, how old are you? If you don't mind me asking?
If you are over thirty, suitably foul-mouthed, bitter, barren and selfish, you may be a candidate for the BESH board, which is recruiting for new members.

Zips I am very envious of your house - it sounds lovely! We have a rented 2 bed, which is crap. Still people have babies in rented two bed houses all the time don't they? Not that there's one of those appearing any time soon

And the same goes for you Zipps, though if I remember correctly you may be a little young. Tis very strict! Sorry to hear about passing the ex-bully - it makes your innards squirm with hatred when you see those girls doesn't it? And you are definitely not alone. It makes me cross when to think about couples who are having problems who have to sit amongst rooms full of happy pregnant people to wait for consultations. It's like these horrible tales of women who have miscarried being in Maternity. So sad.

Aries am nearly 31 and like saying the word shit alot.....

Well that's not enough Lanks. You have to say the word fuck a lot. And the c word is mentioned fairly frequently, though not by me I hasten to add

Ha ha - well I was trying to refrain from using those words as I didn't want the frolickers to they is very ladylike dont you know?

Personally I like Father Jacks vocabulary a lot....

I adore you Frolickers. You have been lovely to me since the moment Hermya welcomed me to her ample bosom. A nicer bunch of wimmin there never was.

Whats this about my ample bosom Ariesgirl??? Our LO will be born into a rented two bedroom flat, his room is also the spare/junk room as well. We've negotiated him a corner and a wall for some bunting and pictures(I know it sounds twee, but it was the only cheapish thing I could think of to make his corner and wall look more nursery like).

Lanky Father Jack is brilliant!! People have mentioned that before about Ultrasound depts, I think that sort of thing should be rethought when they book fertility appointments.

Kaloki Good luck with your Doctors appointment.

Cavemum I saw that programme as well, I thought it looked quite cool and gave it a go. My word, my sex ed was a lesson in biology done by a sweaty physics teacher. I went to a Catholic secondary school, had Catholic guilt for years when I started buying bras and pants specifically for seduction purposes.

Womanly It's ok to have struggles and to have these thoughts, I know it's hard but you are doing well.

Zippy I'm sorry about your appointment, I hope your SWI'ing goes well.

Brief update from me, I'm fine apart from some morning sickness and a couple of other pregnancy symptons which aren't that fun. I'm also 24 weeks, so LO is a legal entity now. We're also facing the odious task of sorting out our spare room now. I don't know how we managed to accumulate so much stuff.

Anyway, I hope you're all well and that you all have BFP's soon.

Aww, I agree Aries were a bluddy marvellous bunch of mad cows ladies

Now, who feels like getting pished?!

Oh CaveMum, you have to put double dashes round every word you want to cross out. Schoolboy error, I'm afraid. Or schoolgirl would be more appropriate.

Aww, bum!

Alas MrsWajs is also too young to become a BESH
So I just make do lurking!

Wish I was bloody too young

Do any of you want to contribute to my A Question of Weight thread? I want to look cool and popular.

I am am too young too but on my way to being pissed. Better not get too pissed or else swi won't happen!! Where is your thread Aries?

It's in Conception.

I'm on the wine this evening but then MrA very selfishly came in an finished the rest of the bottle. What a bastard.

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