30s TTC: The BESH Palace - where the bar never closes, booze is free, the humour is black and babydust is strictly for snorting through a rolled up 20.

[PollyPoo]

Welcome BESHies to the new palais. Plz to come fill it up plz.

For your delight and delectation I have dragged across the bar and the pit. Along with Mitchell (of course) to grant your every wish (but you will probably have to fight Scorps for him first... good luck with that).

I have even brought the Kylie infused absinthe. Now, who will join me in a Blackhole?

How are they treating it Lyra? Sneak a look in his drug chart; if there's anything you're not sure what it is I can look it up for you in my dealers prescribing handbook. So sorry you're having to go through this, and sorry for your Ma and Pa too

Scorps: excellent news, well done. Please tell me you asked if you could get your rat out? That's been amusing me all day

Okay, boring Fanny Man update: I didn't ask if I could get me rat out and Dr Pickles wasn't a comedy pug in a suit and tie, with little half-moon glasses perched on his nose or indeed even a man, cos I actually saw the colposcopy lady again who just said, 'ah yes, as I said when I booked this for you 6 weeks ago, I think you have all the signs of endometriosis, so let's book you in for a laparoscopy in 6 weeks'. I managed to stop myself asking why, if she knew I'd need a lap 6 weeks ago, did she make me wait all this time to merely repeat it. However, I then had a ridiculous panic over thought of the lap and asked if they could do something less intrusive first, so she said they'd do dildocam (not her actual words, sadly). However, if I change my mind, can get it changed to a lap if I beg within the next week, so am already thinking I'll just go for the lap. I can't stop my mind stoopidly obsessing about dying under anaesthetic, FFS! My Mum had given me a lift and when I told her, she was bellowing like a loon in anger, because I've been going to Docs about my mental-level period pains since I was 13/14 and just being dismissed AND I had a scan when I was 19 and they fucked it up, which we've only just found out - I was told at the time everything was fine. CUNTS! I think, if I had let her, she would've taken a detour to the ole family GP's surgery and started going batshit crazy about 'letting her baby down'. Me and TYF had a bit of a boohoo, but am going to try to be positive, as it might not be endo and if it is, they may well be able to sort it out good 'n' propah-like.

Small for mememe.

Gonna return to the Lyra Bundle now. With chocolate and gin. Keep us updated, we're rooting for your pops. Poor thing sounds like he's having a total 'mare.

Headcasesuitcase - we're not allowed hugs, are we? Have a grope instead. Sorry it was a BFN. I had secret hopes about you

LovelyLyra I'm so sorry to hear about your dad. Love, hugs and every ounce of positivity I can squeeze out for you, you dad and all your family. Thinking of you sweetheart.

Scorpy well done on getting through the appt. Can't believe they fucked up the results all that time ago, but am v glad they are taking it seriously at last. Big squeeeze and nork gropes for you, you saucy little minx.

Sorry lots to catch up on - HB did I read that you got GP's appt about spotting? Hope I did. And I hope it is soon!

Bitchslaps and tequila slammers for you all.

Clearly if men had to put up with crap like that, Scorps, then they wouldn't have to put up with it. If you're with me. Fucking men doctors.

Thanks Aries, but it's been mainly female Docs fobbing me off over the years. Consults have gone summat like this:
LadyDoc: Most women have period pains, so suck it up, crybaby. (Might be generalising slightly here)
Me: What, so bad they are rushed screaming, writhing, fitting, passing out and vomiting, to A&E?
BitchDoc: Erm, hmmm, well, you're just unlucky. Having a baby can cure period pains, you know!

doesn't even begin to describe it. I have gone to Docs every fucking year since I started menstruating in 1986 (the year TYF turned 5; I am so old my pussy is haunted) to tell them summat ain't normal about my level of period pains, only to be dismissed as a wimp, hypochondriac and generic stupid cow.

And yes, I have been told that the cure for period pains is pregnancy loads of times. Yeah, ignore massively obvious signs of condition that causes infertility and dismiss patient with blithe bullshit about baybeewin, that's the ticket!

Ok . But men were doctors first and therefore the attitude to women patients is their fault!

Actually, I don't believe even women who haven't experienced it can understand what very bad period pain feels like. Mine go up and down from month to month - luckily the last few have been bearable and also I genuinely am a wimp. And there have been times when I've lain awake writhing and groaning clutching the hot water bottle instead of sleeping, and that doesn't sound anywhere near mine. I am of the opinion that if someone comes into the surgery and describes that much pain, then surely something's not right.

Anyone watch the Leaders' debate?

Oh Lyra, so sorry things are so tough for your Dad at the mo, really hope he's improving as I type and fighting off the sepsis.

Glad you've got things happening Scorps. Your medical history appears to be a litany of incompetent medics, it's a wonder you manage to be anything resembling healthy at all. So all credit to you for managing your body better than they do, but hope that now they'll make some sense of it all. Can't believe how long they've been fobbing you off for.

Duh, sorry, meant "that doesn't sound anywhere near yours".

Thanks guys Occie, what you said is what my Mum said about my medical history and Docs (after she had stopped hitting the steering wheel and yelling 'fucking bastards'). I have, or have had, several serious conditions and I have diagnosed myself with each one after being fobbed off and then went to the surgery and demanded tests, etc., which duly proved me right, in each bloody instance.

The only thing I can think is that Docs see so much pain and suffering that they become blasé about 'non-dangerous' pain like period pain. And don't forget that endometriosis is 'only' a female disease, ie not important and probably a hysterical figment of the weak feminine mind anyway (which is the instutionalised medical view, which female Docs are inculcated with also).

The thing that makes me most angry is that Docs over the years have witnessed me in the full throes of the worst period pains (ie house-calls to give me anti-emetic for the uncontrollable vomiting, or someone rushing me to the surgery), not just heard me describe them and one nurse actually said 'can you die from period pains?' in fear when she saw me that ill, in front of one of my GPs, so the fact that they've continued to dismiss me is unacceptable. And I've not just moaned about period pains - I've actually asked them outright about endometriosis and said, look I have a,b,c, d (etc.) symptoms only to keep being fobbed off. I even asked about endo when I had my smear at the start of the year and the Doc accused me of 'worrying too much' and that I was 'too old to keep making a fuss' about period pains! The thing is, as well, that I've stayed at the same GPS I've been at since I was a child, even when I've not lived near (mainly cos I couldn't be arsed to change!). So confusion over notes or my history and so on isn't an excuse!

Sorry to waffle so much, and know this isn't that crap in light of the shite others have been through/are going through, and in the face of what brave LyraDad is battling, but it's so infuriating! I've known and everyone who's every seen me having period pains has known, that mine ain't normal - except, it seems, the very people who should and can help

Scorps am still mithering away to myself about your history of incompetent 'health professionals'. Do you think this all goes back to that old GP making a note that you were a hypocondriac and not actually ill?

Sorry my little sexpot, xpost. You have just answered my q!

Pol, I don't think it's that totally, as have been complaining about period pains since I first started droiding when I was 13, so way before that stupid bullshit but yes, that didn't help!

Morning Beshies

Sorry to post and run - have stupid annoying day ahead of me (nothing interesting) but just wanted to drop some bear hugs off for Lyra

Catch up with you all properly later I hope x

Morning.

lyra belated positive vibes coming PapaLyra's way. What a scary situation for you & your family. What's the news this morning? I hope he had a comfortable night. Lots of love xxxxx & violence

scorps words fail me at the incompetence of your GP et al. Am particularly loving "having a baby cures period pains> &

Oh head sorry you didn't have any GP joy yesterday either. I see a theme here with BESH's & medical cunts staff. How's the mid-cycle droid today? Did you say you had GP on Mon?

FordScorpina (so good I'm using it twice) I am so SPEECHLESS with disbelief and indignation about your treatment at the hand of DRs I don't even know what to say. I'm used to the most amazingly solicitous folk at my surgery - ie, when I had symptoms that suggested breast cancer not only was I seen immediately, but I had a personal call at home from the GP that evening and was in a swanky breast screening clinic 48 hours later. Mind you - that raises the whole 'let's give an illness a pretty pink ribbon and all the funds' debate which will make all of us cross. Seriously though - I am dumbfounded. And no, I had no idea period pain could get that bad. You poor sweetheart. Thank God you're at last getting some answers. You wanna move to Lahndahn love. Sad but true...

Thanks Pols and Laurie and Cass - I must admit I was Googling 'breakthrough bleeding' in case the last droid had been something interesting, but nope. Still, game not over for this cycle! NHS Direct are normally pretty good but this time she just didn't seem interested. GP on for Monday morning and I know he's a good egg, as he's the one that helped the OM with his Troubles (evening phone calls and all). Spotting seems to have slowed for now although I have just had an 8 mile cycle to work so Lord knows what I'll find when I go for a wazz

Polly - any newz?!

Hope we hear from Lyra soon.

Good morning my fellow Hags. Ed I have indeed POAS. I know, I know - I am only CD28/11DPO but FF told me to do it.

Anyway, peed on it, went off to dress Boo, came back and could see faint line under bathroom light. Went to window, could see it less in direct sunlight, more in shade. Obviously menkulness ensued and took photos to see if it looked any clearer (it didn't).

So I'm not sure - it could just be the shadow of the chemically strip, evap line (even though line was there within the 5 mins?) or ... well I'm not even gonna say it. I am fully aware that I am so desperate to see the line I may be seeing somefink what is not there!

damn! I have a few hours to clean the house, pack a bag, take Boo to childminder, get to work, then 4 hours later fuck off to Devon for a very boozy weekend with darling old friend. All whilst my head is up my arse.

Thanks Head - can I lay my head in your copious buzwams and get a hairstroke? The way I've been constantly let down by Docs all my life (started when my Ma was pg, but that's another story!) is one big reason why I'm very scared of the idea of AC - I don't trust them not to fuck things up or fuck up my health.

Off to work now, where I will no doubt see gazillions of kiddiwinks and pg wimminz. Funtimes!

Lyra, hoping your Pop is okay and getting better hour by hour

Poo, I want there to be a 2nd line soooooooooooo badly! Don't keep us in suspenders, hurhur, this weekend on this issue! BOO TWO! BOO TWO!

Me too Scorps but the more I look at the photos the more I think it is a trick of the light or summat. Just fished the stick out of the bin and its all but faded now.

If I could only figure out how to get photos off iphone I would them on here for you to laugh at peruse but I am being a bit thick.

You nestle 'ere Scorps, for the duration.

Poo ... so ... lemme get this straightened out ... there's a faint line? Basically?

'Kay. Obviously I think you should upload the pictures so we can see. But that is because I too share the Crown of Menkul and encourage all others to share their Menkul to the Max...

Cross post!

send them to uvverplace?

Ohmigodsqueeplizpliz, polyps. Will cross most appendages for you.

Lyra Those appendages that are not crossed for poopy are crossed for your dad. Thinking of you, lovey.

Scorpetal Your doctors suck.