To TTC or not to TTC, that is one of the many questions...

[YorkshireTeaDrinker]

Ok fellow ditherers, as we have filled up one thread (and still not made too many firm decisions) here's another one for us to continue to procrastinate and worry on.

Here's to more monitoring of relative green and redness, mutual support and occassional chivving, discussion of everything baby or not baby related, and perhaps even our first BFP...?

LQ I mean, not LG - LG is my phone. Hmmm....

Wow that's some news! Lol @ testing in Victoria Station toilets!

Better than conceiving in them!

Hmm well that is true!

My goodness, we are dropping like flies. Congrats, LQ, how exciting!

Need food and a coffee before I can be more coherent.

Dropping like flies is an excellent comparison! I have a suspicion it will soon just be me and you, or maybe just me

Am up with the lark today as went to bed at 9.30 - yes, very rock and roll - and that was stone cold sover too. I had a mild wobble (this is the thread where we can talk about anything and everything, right?) as I logged back on Facebook and a comment I thought I had left about a group of photo's had gone. It was some that S had put up of a party ten years ago and, as others were saying similar about how young we all look, I added something about how some had worn better than others - meaning myself (skinny! blonde! fresh faced even at 6am after partying for two days!) Anyway, today it had gone. I thought S had deleted it and then thought 'argh' for possibly being so tactless, but now I think I may not have put it up in the first place. I can't remember. I think after the debacle with asking people for pics I am now rather paranoid - not my usual frame of mindI'd like to add. I also feel very removed from everything as I'm not round the corner from everyone like I used to be, far from it in fact and due to move even further.

Right, that's off my chest. Sorry to those who haven't the foggiest what I'm on about - you're not missing much, promise, it's just good sometimes to write things down.

Will have a look on screen shortly and see if HP has had her caffiene fix yet...

Oh petal, don't worry that you will be here by yourself, I fear Im not going anywhere!

I too was in bed by ten pm as couldn't keep eyes open any more!

If you can't see the photo comment, I would suspect it didn't post properly, unless you witnessed it on there after you pressed go? I think it's very understandable to be paranoid about what you say, but you can't check everything that you say or write for possible hidden meanings or potential misunderstandings. If it would make you feel better, you could ask S about it, to put your mind at rest. As the poster of the photo, does he have the access rights to remove comments? I would imagine that no-one else would. Poor Confused, it's such a tricky situation, try not to beat yourself up about it, you are doing your best and are not a mind-reader.

Thanks. It was S who put the pics up so would have been S who removed it, if, after all, it was removed. I think it's okay though, I have no clear memory of seeing it up there (ridiculous as I didn't post after a few!) just of writing it. S said himself there is no need for oversensitivity so it ought to be okay. I think I am just oversensitive to it all myself, more so for being too far away to be able to pop over and also after the pic's business (out of the 69 people or couples who, enthusiastically, said they'd send one, only 14 of them actually did, which is pretty pathetic really.) I'll give S a call later today anyway as not spoken to him for a bit and the last I heard he was starting to feel nauseus (sp?) which is pretty good considering he's been chemo-ing since Jan.

So, back to the matter in hand, the world is going BFP mad! My friend who had the emergency c-sec may be out today too, according to her DH, which seems very soon I have to say. Am interested to hear all about it as it really does sound a bit conveyor belt is - inducing when only 6 days 'over' etc etc.

Am killing time until my friend comes over to pick me up at 11.30 - we're going shopping for things for her wedding. I also have to stay out this morning as have someone coming to see the house. As the message kept cutting out on the answermachine I have no idea when they are actually turning up, hence keeping out most of the day. Will be around tonight though if anyone else is...

Hello hello

love the dropping like flies analysis and thanks for your congrats!

Won't be leaving - have had a poke around at some of the other forums on MN and I don't think anyone will shoot me for saying that some of them look a little fierce?!

As for how I feel etc the only word is knackered! After I have done this post will be taking myself off for another nap but then I think what else would I be doing on a cold sat afternoon having had to hurtle round the food shops this morning - by myself I might add!

I went to bluewater last night to buy a "everything you need to know now you've got a bun in your oven" book OMFG there are so many. Ranging from the quite medical scary looking ones to one my Mylene Class - who gives a monkeys! Settled on one called What to Expect whilst you are expecting whcih I vaguely remember being mentioned in a Rom Com with Hugh Grant about him unexpectedly becoming a dad - I think I saw it when I was about 14! Looked quite sensible and I felt it somewhat righted the wrongs of my testing in the toilets at Victoria - for which I had to pay 30p for the privilege.

Orginal reasons for dithering were -
I'm overweight: well now I will get fatter, seriously though it is on my mind and I will be asking my Dr on Monday how I can minimise gaining too much and if this is ok.

Money: shall we wait until we have all the debt paid off - now I think well we both work so it will get paid off one day. we're not rich and not poor - we've just beent oo good at spending money in the past.

I hate my job: yep that still stands, I wondered for a while if the reason I felt so upset about work recently was because I must be "all emotional and hormonal" but no, I have a serious concern about work becuase I work hard and feel responsbile for what I do - have never been a person that leaves on a friday and doesnt think about it till Monday. But I would be mad to leave a civil service job now I'm pregnant (still sounds weird) so I will struggle though.

I think that was it. I did have this feeling yesterday that I might be late - hence the test then afterwards everything else kinda slots into place - last weekend I was really ill - like I never knew you could have constipation and diarrhoea in the same day. but then again it could have just been a bug.

Decided not to tell a sole (except the people that I was seeing to do the cambridge diet and a counsellor I have been seeing to deal with all the work stress and of course you guys) until we get the all clear!

confused about your FB post - i know its easy for me to say but you know that you didnt mean it in that way and I am sure that your friends, if they know you, know that too. xx

Two BFPs in a week. Not bad for the dithering thread, huh?

I love hearing other peoples stories. The loo in Victoria pregnancy test is a pretty good one!

It's so awful that a bad work situation can have such a dramatic, negative affect. I hope the councelling is helping you to move forward, LQ. I have to confess that I'm still considering seeking some help at this point in my life, as I'm finding it tough to deal with all the decisions I'm faced with. The baby business and a decision to make regards my future career, mainly.

I can't believe they induced your friend at only five days overdue and with no problems, Confused. I thought ten days was more standard. Five days seems like no time at all, and no wonder the baby had to be dragged out. She might have come out all by herself in a couple of days time. Maybe this is an example of too vigorous medical intervention, as you say. But once they get settled you will be going to see another newborn....interesting!!

Hope the viewings went ok, whatever time they turned up!

I'm off out tonight, just pizza round friends. I'm driving, so DH can have a drink. Which will no doubt fuel the rumours that my gut is a pregnancy belly. Sigh.

Speaking of which, I got my thermometer! We had a fun half hour taking our temperatures after which we came to the conclusion that DH is definitely about to ovulate.....

So, HP, with this not drinking lark are you up the duff? Thought I'd ask first just in case! Or to jump on the bandwagon.

Had a couple of drinks so s'cuse the typing.

Anyone around?

Oh My Goodness! Congratulations Lizard! Loved hearing your finding out story. This is probably one of few occasions where someone actually go their monies worth out of 30p for a pee at the station charge!

You are right, now is not the time to be jettisoning your unsatifying civil service job. My job does not thrill me much, but I figure my work-life balance and priorities there to are going to change fairly dramatically soon!

A lot of women actually lose weight in the first trimester (mainly due to pukeing, which is a bit of a downer). Whilst I'd steer clear of the shake diet, you don't have to eat for two and should be able to continue aiming to lose weight for the first 3 months or so. Depending on how overweight you are, this could actually be beneficial, as it would lessing the chances to a miscarriage.

Confused sounds like your friend is being shunted out of hospital fairly swiftly. Although, I suspect it will be much nicer to recouperate at home rather than in hospital. I think I might do a bit of shuffling with my dates though, and get my due date knocked back a few days, to mitagate against this type of medical keenness! re the keenness to intervene, you should be able to put your foot down and refuse if you want a virginal birth. Unless you are in a life threatening situation, no medical intervention can take place without your informed consent, so you can tell them to back off if you want.

Its probably too early to think about it, but I am tempted to try for a home birth. We live 3 miles from the hospital, so tranfer to hospital in case of emergancy would be fairly easy, and I think you have a better chance of staying in charge of things if you are at home for longer.

HP hope you have a good night out. Although I don't know how you are going to project not-TTC vibes now you are in possession of a termometer. Humm, I wonder which fly is going to drop next...

Confused how did the viewing go today?

And latest from me - I have now told my Mum and my best friend. My urge to spread the news has now been assuaged. Am now just panicing about all the things that can go wrong! I have also got a carpet fitter coming to measure up next week and an appointment with another (hopefully cheaper) kitchen design company. The project plan is coming together. Hopefully I'll have most to the work scheduled by May at least.

Virginal birth? Surely that's a misnomer!

I love the idea of home birth although that would not be an option for me as diabetic, although, and I am obviously saying this when NOT pregnant, I think as natural as possible is surely better? I don't have as much faith in the medical profession as perhaps I should!

As you're online I'll post this quickly - how did your mum and best friend react?!

To carry on... no idea how the house viewing went but will find out on Monday. Only one viewing though so early days.

Brilliant news re your house DIY (or not DIY maybe just D-ing) though. Fingers crossed for May! Our house is on now and it's really weird seeing it on-line

HP thanks - its been a bit of a weird time with the work thing - I've worked in pressured jobs before, been busy, worked late yadda yadda but this is a whole new thing! The counselling has been fantastic, I've been to say the same lady off and on for about 2 years and most recently to talk about the work stuff. I did think about whether the work stress thing has been exaggerated by the fact that I am pregnant although thinking more about it, I know how I feel and ok I might have been a bit more tearful due to hormones or whatever but who knows? I know that work has really taking it out of me over the last 6ish months so its been a bit of a downhill thing rather than something that happened over night. Anyway I would really recommended counselling/ seeing a therapist but it is important to see the right person. I found my lady through a GP's recommendation -not sure where you live but if its anywhere near SE London/Kent and you would like her details happy to send them over to you.

Lol about your DH ovulating! Ask him if his breasts are tender!

YTD thank you - re loosing weight you're completely right and I am just going to eat healthy which i have no doubt will cause me to loose weight as in bad fat as oppose to loosing anything that would be bad for the pregnancy. As much as I would like to be (or would I?) one of those overweight people that doesnt know where all the weight come from I can def see places where I can make cutbucks! Glad to hear your plans are coming together.And yes what did your mum and b.friend say?

Come on 8YTD what did your mum say? And LQ* who have you told in RL?!

LeviStubbsTears thanks for the hello! I'm waiting rather than dithering (I hope!) but I do like dipping in here to see how everyone's getting on with the eternal "should I, shouldn't I?"!

confused i had intentions of staying online last night to see if anyone was around by then I was knackered!

The only people I have told are DH (obviously!), the lady & man who I have been buying the cambridge diet shakes off of and the counsellor that I have been seeing - just because it was important to get my head straight on how I feel about work.

Also the girl in Boots who I bought the 4th PG test off of who tried to advise me that the First response tests were on BOGOF and I said (like a crazy person) "oh yes, i've done 3 of those already today, I'm just checking!"

What's everyones plans for today? We are off to Columbia Rd flower market in East London then we have a massive (19peeps) family meal later for my nan's bday. Would be nice to tell everyone (esp my Grandma & Great Aunt, gosh that makes her a Great Great aunt, she'll love that!) but am determined to zip it until we are further along!

Morning all,

I'm off out in a minute for a walk around The Countryside. It's flipping freezing here, but at least it's bright, so should be ok.

Had a good night, no wine and only one quick glance in the direction of the tummy. No, I am def not pregnant, and def not TTC, but if something did happen against all the odds, you ladies would be the first to know. Poss even before DH, as I would need some help with that conversation!!!

Hope you all have fun Sundays. Back later.

Afternoon all,
Today has been a very gentle day on account of my sore head. I was up till 2am talking to my friend, the dad, who had the baby on Thursday (the induction which resulted in a c-sec.) This also appeared to involve quaffing cider at the same time - ooops! I don't think I have ever heard a man so in awe of his wife, it brought a lump to my throat. He said that the baby was screaming as she was born and they put her on mum's chest - mum started talking to her and the baby instantly stopped and just stared at her. I was so touched by his telling of this that I made him tell me twice! I blame the cider...

So, today as a result of this weeks revelations and my friends new baby I am a cautious shade of green!

Cripes.

Gorgeous. The baby stopped crying?

I know! But it was the way the dad was telling me which really did it! And he was so in awe of the fact that mum (nearly wrote the actual names then!) was oblivious to the fact that the surgeons were sewing her back up as she was so focused on talking to and comforting the baby.

Oh 'eck, another lump's appeared in my throat!

Stop, you're killing me!!

It's lovely to hear how happy and proud he is, he must feel magical at the moment. I guess this is when it becomes 'real' for the man.