30s TTC - We BESH you a Merry Jizzmas and a droid-free new year!

[CurlyCasper]

Come in, come in. The wine is mulling, the bird is stuffed and cooked. We have a huge table at which to enjoy our festive feast, and the rippling Ricky Whittle is the centrepiece, draped in berries to be removed by whatever method you choose.

A bottle of Gin and an elf-man in a box awaits each and every one of you. Just make your wish and when you undo the bow he will appear.

There's a nativity tableau in the corner, for praying to the baybee Jebus and, most importantly of all, Santa has been asked to deliver the gift of exceptional fertility, so that each and every BESH can enter the new year with a baybeeee in their tum tum.

Oh, and I've let a few cats in to aid with the 2WOOFL menkulness.

Now, let's get together and get the tree up!

When can you test, camel?

Just want to echo what everyone else said VAG, don't give up yet. If you're not bleeding there's a good chance it's still there. Fingers crossed.

I am still having intermittent spotting. Droid officially due in 2 days I think.

Cameltoe POAS POAS POAS!

THWACKKKKK! VAG, remember - "absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence". Many women don't have any symptoms for a long time, or at all (last week, a colleague's friend just went into hospital with severe stomach pains and was told she was in labour - the classic story). I think that our modern way of being able to have so much info on the subject and so much contact with so many others, backfires at times and we think that if we're not getting symptoms, etc., that many others seem to have, then it means there's something wrong with us, or we're not pg and so on. But the simple fact is that everyone is different. My own Mum had virtually no symptoms for either of her pregnancies.

I know how you must be feeling, as I am such a Neurotic Nelly that I'd be driving myself mad with identical fears, but the fact that you're not bleeding can only be positive. And don't shove loo roll up yourself so often that you lacerate your foofoo and cause bleeding that way!

When you hear that niggling voice saying you don't 'feel' anything, tell yourself that you also cannot feel anything menstrual OR see anything menstrual either. Therefore, the burden of proof points to your BOC being fine and dandy.

Camel, just think - if you have twins you could name them Cookies and Cream

I bought some Booja Booja ginger ice-cream today (at TYF's nagging - I wanted coconut) but it's a bit meh.

Vag please do not panic! Everyone else has said it - so many people don't feel anything. I felt nothing in the days after my BFP, and when I did start to feel something it was just the odd period like cramp. I never had a "pregnant feeling". I have not been sick. In fact, I kept temping and peeing on sticks for weeks because I had no other signs. Please stay positive.

toe POAS!!!!

I might be ginger, but I cannot stand the taste of the stuff. Gingernut biccies ok though.

LOL at cookies and cream though.

Ginger biccy ice-cream sounds nomety-nom-NOM!

Mmm, icecream. That's what I forgot to buy today. How I wish you could still get Chubby Hubby in the UK.

Ski, it wasn't ginger biccy, but it was ginger - and pretty fiery too. The contrast of hot flavour and cold product was interesting and it was delish (just not as nice as the choc or coconut IMO).

Booja Booja is a Dutch firm, so surely you could get some. Have Jailbait scour far and wide, for after all - ginger is tops for easing morning sickness. Why, it's a medical imperative that you neck a tub ASAP!

I know you said ginger, I said ginger biscuit - vive la difference! Ginger has not worked with mine, it's made it worse.

Meh ice cream should be banned.

ski how about a Jamie Oliver moment? Smash up some ginger biscuits and mix them with some gorgeous proper vanilla ice cream. Crunchy, icy goodness. Mmm.

Feck off with the POAS noises, you rowdy bunch. Am going nowhere near the devil sticks until I have a cycle that goes over 28 days. Would rather see droid blood than yet another "don't be ridiculous, you barren hag" bfn.

Anyone else watching So You Think You Can Dance? Aw. They're all so cute. Apart from that stage school Bonnie Langford alike. She needs a good kicking.

Now want ice cream (and finished the weekly shop a few hours ago - sans desserts )

waiting to watch SYTYCD, when SFF decides to stop pissing about and sits down beside me. There really is bugger all else on tonight...

Camel, you just made me snort water down myself at 'devil sticks' I mean, I was drinking it, I didn't eerily manifest water from my nostrils or anything. I heart SYTYCD - used to watch the American version too - but am recording it as TYF is working himself up into a hilarious man-tizzy over Assassin's Creed II. As he was brought up to never swear (and never does - it's quaintly endearing, esp. as you lot know what a potty mouth I am), it's like watching one of those films where the BBC used to bleep out the cursing and dub over weak and often bizarre alternatives. He's just yelled 'Bum off, you flippin' Frigbag' at the screen!

Aaaanyway (sorry, was so funny I had to mention it!), don't POAS, young Humpelina. That way madness lies. I've become a bit POAS-phobic of late. Just wait till you give birth in a drive-thru car park, then you'll know for sure!

Meh ice-cream is a crime that should be punished at the court of human rights in Den Hague. I keep seeing syrup sponge pudding ice-cream by Tate & Lyle in our local Tesco and TYF has to drag me away as I mutter hysterically about my allergies and never being able to try it Ginger biscuit flavour would also be nyom. I think Waitrose used to do one.

Look, I'm not a bulimic, I just have a really good memory, speshly for tasty food, okay?!

I want ice cream now... sigh.

We are going to watch a film with gerard butler in. I don't know its called or what its about - the important thing is it has gerard butler in.

Ew, Gerard Butler is muscular and manly. I prefer weedy poet types myself. Each to their own

I have tried the ginger ice-cream again, purely in the name of science, you understand, and I was wrong - it is nom, not meh. It was a bit soft the first time I tried it, but that was my own fault for attacking it as soon as we got home, like some sort of pathetic Bridget Jones type.

I have put on nearly half a bastard stone after NY, due to eating like a pig due to Xmas IL deprivations and general TTC blues. And nothing makes me want to pig out like gaining weight The diet starts Monday!

vag are you around luvver?just wondering how you doing...

Oh camelandcream am bringing 2 discs of Mr Gin's Review of 2009 for you if you make it down t'pub...

Polly I can't be doing with Gerard Butler - his head is much too big for his body. I estimate that his head weighs in at 4 stone or approximately 2.5 big grey breezeblocks and his body weighs 5 stone. Wet. Urgh. Are you having hormones or something?

SYTYCD is brilliant. The person I most dislike is the girl whose parents own the Italia Conti stageschool. I can't help but think if my parents bred horses and owned Burghley, had contacts all over the world, my dad was chef d'equipe and I still couldn't sit on an 'orse then maybe, just maybe, I was a bit shit. I like best the hiphop dancer couple, Lizzie and ??? - their routine last week was just brillllllllyant.

cameltoe/weewee MAN UP!

vag How are you? Where are you? We're all very worried about you.

I have no idea who gerald butler is.

Check this for stoooopid.I just got on train to That London and left suitcase in mr gin's car. Had to get of asap,he driving up with my stuff,I will be an hour late for work at least,and will have to try n travel on wrong ticket.

I AM A TWAT!!!!!

vag check in with us when you can,we all thinking about you...

Gin can't believe you got on train with no case! Hope stupid trainpeople don't bother to check your ticket

GB is lovely... but not as lovely as Hugh Jackman - I would possibly leave TG for him. Or Rufus Sewell (even though he has boggley eyes). And Ray Winstone is just dreamy..... all manly and testosterone fuelled... Hmmm... Ooooh, wonder if I'm ov'ing early this month?

I am escaping from the house of ill person for the day - hoorah! Shopping and movie with mate. Unfortunately I have to drive to Southampton but needs must.

Have a good day all - VAG, I'm thinking of you and hoping all is ok. Hugs n stuff.

can someone remind me what is good about grapefruit? (I know there is something, but can't be bothered heading into an acronym filled thread). I have just rediscovered pink grapefruit, and have a vague notion is is good for fertility.

Medee It's supposed to be good for FFJ.

I also don't know who ricky whittle is,come to think of it...

Bastard train now late. Gggggrrrrrr