Mid 30's TTC - you're my BESH mate you are..... <hic>

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We've taken delivery of a fine new sofa. Come and rest here

Have a great time chEGGS and good luck!!!

PS Yes, 7 years wasted, but TYF is so ace it like I had to suffer to get the reward. Hopefully that reward inc. young, fit, superswimming spunk! Of course, if I can't ever get updiffed, I will track The Ex down and torture him for days before murdering him with his own crampons (the outdoorsy* cunt), yelling 'you stole my childbearing years from me!!!!' before I deliver the killer blow. I feel that would be a mature and wholly appropriate response and a crime I would be acquitted of by the MN jury at least

PPS I wanted a nail-nibble but there were none left and I wasn't about to start on your toenails

PPPS is Dr IVF's middle name 'Tact'?

*I have no problems with outdorsy people. Just him. Annoyingly, facebook keeps sugesting him as a friend, as we went to the same uni (though at diff times).

PPPPS fingers crossed for your work shit gin

Ooo btw scorp I also wasted 7 years on a tosser.didn't spilt for exactly the reasons described but think twas not dissimilar...I realised I couldn't endure a messed up and destructive alcoholic anymore,and that I was never going to 'save' him.

(in fact I imagined the future if we actually had kids - 'why is daddy shouting at mummy?' etc)

we live and learn eh?

X posts scorp

fucking insomnia. (maybe the kids are hatching? )

aghh .. the real reason why we're in this middle aged predicament. tossers

mine was from 28-31. prime "yes i'd like to be married with babies now please" age. he never had any bloody intention. and thank the lucky stars. it would've been hell. i was obviously moronically blinded with said "yes i'd like to be married with babies now please" attitude.

funnily enough he made friends with me a while back on facebook. we ended bad but then "made friends" again a year later and were pretty good mates for a while. i haven't accepted him yet. i'm still umming and arring. obviously (immaturely) i would like him to see my fabulous wedding photos, but then not really sure i want him watching over my life. (not that i'm very efficient with adding pics or anything lol). so anyway - all "moral dilemma" input gratefully received.

gin. brilliant advice re: google. i will leave well alone till i know the score

with one I had a 55% chance of success, which goes up to 75% with 2. so i am tentatively actually daring to think it might work you will all be called upon for hand holding if it doesn't - so beware!

secretly i would love twins in a fingers in ears la la la "it will be fine to look after 2" cavalier attitude way.

luckily fella has own business and completely flexible hours and only needs an internet connection so can work from home no probs. we're thinking that would be our saving grace save me going completely mad if it does happen.

anyway. hope you sort your work shit gin. i guess you actually have to be there to sort it out? there's still a chance the fuck up is not actually fucked up though right? fingers crossed anyway

spose i should get on with the packing i failed to do last night then. i am geneticaly programmed never to do anything till the absolute last minute.

babies included! lol

My "worst" bf in that respect was the one I met when I was 26

And true to form caught the train with a minute to spare.

Poor lover is like a packhorse as I'm being previous with my womb

Durr I mean precious obviously. Still not got to grips with these mobile Internet devices.

Lol at GCSE's

My current lover was as keen as me to get cracking luckily. God what a difference that made

Ski - thank God for our saintly (and sexy) jailbaits, eh? I laid it on the line to TYF too - as soon as you can tie your shoelaces, it's updiffing time. Luckily he loves kids (would actually love to be a playworker or similar, but is scared would have crazies accusing him of being a wrong 'un) and said he'd always wanted to be a dad before 30 (his dad was under 30 when BIL was born). Well, he still can't tie his shoelaces properly (for realz: the poor love is a southpaw) but I realised I was expecting too much of him by asking I just hope his paper round can support us whilst I'm not working after the birth

My mate (36) started seeing a 25 yr old last month after much FB obscene public filth flirting. On their first proper date she told him if he wanted to have a relationship then he had to agree to knocking her up as soon as she hit 37 (she thought this was rather generous leeway). Luckily, he agreed. They're already arguing over names n ting

How come these younger blokes are so much more mature and 'sorted' yet so many blokes our age and older are such pathetic, selfish twats? Perhaps feminism really has worked on the younger generation of men and they don't believe the world revolves around them?

My Ex was an emotional abuser, as I've said before on here. One of the things he used to do to be sweet was cuddle me and talk about our future kids; names, what they'd be like, things we'd do, etc. - whilst all the time hating kids and never wanting any. When I found that out and pointed out how sick all that future-kids chat was in light of it, he couldn't see what was wrong with it and kept saying 'but it made you happy, didn't it? So what're you bitching about it now for?'.

Ski that 'other man's baby shit' is beyond fucked-up! Mind you, like chEGGS points out, life with these men and a baby would've been hell.

Is it pitchforks and flaming torches time yet?

PS chEGGS no lifting for you and the twins! Load up your fella like he's Buckaroo

Right, I've started a completely unscientific poll to see why people have delayed TTC to past 30. So if there are lots of people who say it's commitmentphobe fellas we can roll it up into a big tube and shove it up the daily mail's arse.

Scorpette Isn't it funny how these younger lads think "oh, OK then" and actually seem to LIKE children and are not frightened by the prospect of becoming fathers!? My OH is also brilliant with children and thankfully over here men who talk to children are not chased through the streets with angry sign-waving proles shouting PAEDIATRICIANS OUT! (yet)

I think jailbait is the way he is because he's the oldest of 3, his dad walked out on them when his baby sister was in an incubator and his mum raised them alone. Maybe he's trying to make right the wrongs commited against him? Maybe it also helps that they've not had years and years of DINKY and so haven't become quite so selfish? I really don't know - but I am glad I found him.

That's awful about your ex - what an utter PRICK! I'd like to know though why those types don't get the snip - rather than spending their lives bitching about women trying to steal their sperm.

Yes, I'm so glad now that I didn't have a child back then, either his or another man's because obviously I've been able to walk away and NOT have to contact him. jailbait and I have talked about what happens if we break up and we want to be civil for the sake of the children - but it's hard to predict of course.

hahah buckaroo... I shall have to ask at home if he's heard of that.

holds hand up to possessing bloke who thinks you have all the time in the world.

chEGGers keep on hatching, we're all biting our nails and wishing we could hatch with you!

I have my dildocam this afternoon. I'm so looking forward to that. Honest I am.

Asshole

He sounds like a moral vacuum scorp. And your ex just sounds crrrrrazeeeee ski.

Oooh, cheggs know what you mean about protecting the womb - I spend most of my life on the couch now. I am getting cabin fever but am seriously knackered. I swear. Best of luck.

And cos cheers for the dildo image. Yum, made me lunch go down a treat. G'luck chuck.

cos I'm intrigued re dildocam - what have you gone through to get to this stage? I mean I've had blood tests (need to go back for result) & at the same time GP referred me to gynae clinic, which I have appointment next month. Am I heading for dildocam? Or just a chat about the right hole?

Good luck chEGGS

cos hope dildocam went well.imagine it was a bizarre experience.

Tbh Monsieur Gin was not in a huge rush for kids and was very scared...he's not had the best experience of 'family' and was scared he'd be a crap dad (he's ace as it turns out of course..)

my ex - well I wouldn't know where to start.he was a fucking mess.and pretty nasty when drunk,which was often,and which he usually 'didn't remember'

I had friends that actually wanted to throw a party to celebrate when I finally split up with him!

Classic line (during an argument in front of a load of my friends) 'no I understand your opinion...but it's WRONG!!' mr gin was actually there at the time.we can laugh about it now,but it was super-humiliating when it happened.

Was also addicted to porn.

Always good for your self esteem,that one!

I like porn

Not addicted to it though

Yeah you prob don't sneak out of your lover's bed at 3am for a wank trig (I say probably...)

And I'm not sure I like you filling your hole while we're discussing this

no I sleep the sleep of the innocents so nothing disturbs me. Not even smutty dreams. Nothing gets done at 3am unless it's that stabby key thing in the front door. Mind, Homme does sometimes get up in the early hours for a 'glass of water'

I'm all in a "happy" and wanted to share with you some pictures jailbait took tonight:

www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=112936&id=681181245&l=3a9532cce1

Aw ski...good day then?

Mani got pushed over by a big boy and split his lip,lots of blood.I think it was an accident so I managed not to kill him.

Other than that was a better day than I've been having,and I think I've almost got the fuck up at work sorted (thanks to my lovely office manager who is prob due another payrise)

so not such a grumpy bitch as usual myself!(for a few minutes anyway)