The WIMBEWAI(N)F Club - Only a few more to find!

[BuckyAndCocktails]

New thread girlies....running out of credit on the stupid hotel internet connection...so can't say anything..duh..

[higs]

Morning all,

Not long to wait now R4N2+3! Sorry to hear about your mums op and the consequent childcare issues, I hope something turns up (any nice neighbours you can ask?).

GG you can stay on the bench for the duration if you want although you have to promise to budge up a bit and not take up all the room with your expanding bump . Seriously, it must be very difficult to get your head round at the moment - hope the metal mouth is helping to make it more real.

I'm not on clomid this month (one month on, one month off) but the hot flushes still continue and the effort has all but run out. Sex for sex sake is fab but 3 years of sex for ttc sake is seriously taking its toll... Need a kick up the bum really. Would put money on an early ov this month as have been too ill to even think about any bedroom athletics. Read on another thread about calling it 'shagging with intent' (SWI) rather than the twee 'baby dancing' - much prefer it!! Oh, and France isn't until Sept but am really looking forward to it - the house is old but beautiful and there's a group of about 6 of us going which should be lovely

Best do some work....

Woooooooohooooooo! GG that is the most fabulous news I've heard in a long time!!!! I'm so very very pleased for you and your DH, I hope after the initial scare that Baby G behaves itself from now on. I remember giving Alfredo his first telling off for scaring his poor mummy after the seven week scan following that early bleed.

ei good luck, your dreams have always been spookily accurate!

caitni can't believe you're 9 weeks already. Can't believe you and gg get to hang out in the same ante-natal thread!

Big waves to all.

Ds is sleeping amazingly well now, which has sort of led to a bit of unofficial ttc . I say unofficial as I'm not going to pay much attention to CDs or chart temps or anything that involves officially recognising that a baby may be created because we're having unprotected sex. Also as I'm still breastfeeding there's a good chance that I'm not ovulating anyway, so keeping a very very relaxed attitude for the moment.

Dear All

I come bearing potentially bad news ...GG had a super bad night and thinks she may have MC properly this time. She asked me to tell you as she is pretty broken up about it obviously. .

I'm just popping in. Big shout out to you all and thank you for all you comments. I'm kind of sulking as I am truly fed up with ttc, so was planning on avoiding MN for a while but really felt for GG and didn't want her to feel she had to come with the bad news herself if she is not up to it.

New car is cool. Pups are still mental. Job still a nightmare and yes PicknMix I am on that bench with you poppet, all the way. xx

oh no, poor gg

thinking of you GG x

Oh god, how terrible . Poor GG.

Oh shit, GG I'm so sorry to hear this . Am thinking of you xx

oh bloody hell GG thinking of you hope the bean has held on and it is just remnants of the last bleed xxxx

xx ei xx

Oh GG You and DH are very much in my thoughts. XXX

Bucky Thanks for letting us know. I'm sorry to hear you are feeling low. XXX

what awful, awful news GG . Life is shit sometimes (pardon my french).

Oh crap. GG I'm so sorry and I hope that it turns out to be "just" a bleed and not an MC. If there's anything I can do let me know.

Bucky sorry to hear you are feeling low too.

Not sure you will be but just in case you're checking the thread at all GG, you and MrGG are still in my thoughts x

Bucky, sorry forgot to say hope you're ok in my last post. I think I know how you're feeling, I think I might be at that point as well - minus the new car! Big

GG if your lurking just wanted to say that am still thinking of you and hope you and your dp are ok x

just a quick one from me to say GG hope you are ok {{{{{{higs}}}}}}}
xx ei xx

Hello all remember me?

After months of not being on Mumsnet (Freya is 10 months nx wk (DD1 now 4) and I'm just getting some me time!!) I thought I would try and find a few old faces and see how things are going and to my complete surprise the old thread is still going!

I've briefly caught up and found it is the usual highs and lows with everyone supporting each other all the way.

Firstly GG I read happy news and then the devestating possibility of MC. I sincerely hope it is just a scare and wish you and DH all the very best for a happy outcome.

Congratulations to Catni and it's been that long MOB you've got twins?

Bucky Life still seems crazy for you and those dogs are keeping you on our toes!

DG Unofficial TTC Fingers crossed.

ButterflEI Is that you Ei ? I remember you used to change your name but always kept the Ei!

Picknmix SWI is a new one but very apt! Sorry you've been poorly hope the enthusiasm returns

R4N2&3 Congratulations! I'm assuming you are expecting twins? Not long now! Hope you get childcare sorted before labour.

Many congrats Mrshappy when are you due?

Sarahnh Hi! Hope Tess has a fab first birthday!

It's so nice to catch up with you all it takes me back as you were all so very kind to me. I was lucky enough to graduate but I alway felt this was the most comforting and friendly thread, it feels like my mumsnet home!

hey MTW i remember you it is indeed me glad to hear little freya is doing well lovely to 'see' you
xx ei xx

Hi ladies

MTW I remember you too - how nice to see you and it's good to hear how Freya is doing.

GG I hope you and MrGG are ok. I was rather hoping that it was just another bleed but I suspect that you've been so quiet because it wasn't. Anyway, lots of ((((higs)))) for you, and if you need to rant we're here.

PnM I lmao at "shagging with intent". And my poor DH, he would be sloping off knackered for an early night and I would be all "don't you DARE go to sleep" . I think he looks forward to pregnancy as the chance for a break...

Caitni how are you feeling? Is it getting more real these days?

Ei How are you? I was rather hoping that this was going to be your month... any news in that area??

Bucky what's the new car? Are the dogs behaving themselves now?

RFN2 I hope the childcare issues get sorted. Do they need to get the babies out so early or would it help the logistics if they waited a bit (i.e. could someone other than your mum help you out)?

Not a huge amount going on here. I had a meeting with my consultant who seems sensible and appeared to understand my point of view. But am still a bit nervy about the hospital since I rather doubt that she will be there when I go in and even if she is it will be some awful registrar (hopefully not the one I saw last time!!) who actually "looks after" me. Oh well, I still have 12 weeks to get everyone briefed! And this morning I had another scan. I have never had one this late before and it was amazing - courgette was sticking her tongue out and everything. I have a hilarious photo of her looking like she is laughing which I will try to put up on my profile later (am luddite so it might not work...). and while she is still on the small side she is now within normal limits which is fine - DD was not huge either and she is utterly normal.

Anyway, back later, hope everyone is having a restful weekend

Hi, I'm new on here. TTC for about four years (I'm 37). We're in the 'inexplicable' category as everything seems ok, although dh's count a little low. Had HSG test, but fertility doc said that if nothing happened in the next three months (we're about a month and a half in) then I should try IVF. Even though it appears I am ovulating, shouldn't I try Clomid first, or perhaps IUI? Seems a bit drastic to go straight to IVF without the option of anything else first. If anyone has any thoughts, I'd be glad to hear them. Otherwise just nice to read the posts and feel others are out there too - thanks!

Wow, well with a drop in from SarahNH, DG and [trumpet sounds] 07MTW I couldn't keep my trap shut...and A NEW PERSON!!!!!! [grin}.

LizBaz Welcome welcome and even more welcomes because you sound the same as me...37, TTC for over 3 years with 'unexplained infertility'. What area are you in, geographically? What you are offered seems to depend on your Dr and PCT. To be honest, they gave me Clomid but generally it is for people who have ovulation issues. Some Drs will give it to women who ovulate regularly but it doesn't really do anything except perhaps make the quality of the eggs produced better. That said, they could try it with you, wouldn't hurt. I had a lap and dye, and HSG and Day 3 and Day 21 bloods and they did give me clomid, which didn't work (for the reasons given above I suspect) and now they are referring me for IVF. I would say that if there is no reason that they can see that you have not got a BFP yet after all this time there is not really much else for them to do it seems. The Lap and Dye might help them see any issues external to the womb, so that could be more exploratory, but treatment wise, there doesn't seem to be much they can do if they can't find anything 'wrong' IYKWIM. So, in summary, yes IVF is extreme but from what the ladies on here have experienced it would seem the most effective way to a dc if nature isn't going to do it. IUI, isn't that just where they check you have ovulated and then put the sperm in? Well my doctor said that as I had been using OPKs I obviously was aware of my ovulation times so doing effectively the same thing as having sex wouldn't really help...

GG had had her blood test again last time we spoke and I imagine she was due to go back for another to see if her levels had dropped. I hope she won't mind me saying but the results of the bloods after the 'event' were in the 800s so the levels had not doubled since the 600ish test she had had on the Monday. I haven't spoken to her since though. I didn't want to stalk her because I know from experience you need a bit of space with the emotional ups and downs that accompany the not knowing whats going on.

MrsH Courgette is too cute. Laughing indeed. I saw the pic on your FB page...bless. I'm glad all is going well and you sound like you have the medical staff under control. Good for you.

Well enough ramblings from me. Gotta go finish stocking up the car for my car boot sale tomorrow. [Bucky waves to all the other ladies she had not shouted out, and leaves the room]. x

ooh oh and hello O7MTW so great to hear from you and to hear that Freya is growing up to be such a big girl already! .

Come back again soon. xx

Thanks very much, BuckyandCocktails - I think because a couple of people I know conceived immediately once they were on Clomid I just want the same for myself, but you're right that it probably wouldn't do much for me in my situation (which is also yours). Am going to have some tests at a GUM clinic as one or two things make me suspect persistent bacterial infection (sorry if this is TMI!) but if that's not a problem then I should just get myself on a waiting list for IVF. I'm in Cambridgeshire, and am super-lucky as apparently they've just changed things so I could be eligible for up to 3 free courses, and will certainly get one. So I shouldn't be complaining at all, or certainly not on that score.

LizBaz you can never give too much TMI on this thread LOL . I'm in Herts and we get three goes too, so fingers crossed we both get a good result.

Stick around. Its nice to have someone new around. This thread has been going in one form or another for literally years and most of us have met in RL too now. I think we must be quite intimidating to those who lurk because nobody new ever joins us any more.

If not, the best of luck to you and let us know when you get that BFP so we can congratulate you.

Bucky xx

Hi lizbaz welcome to the thread!

Just thought I'd drop in and spread the word. DSis has gone amazingly far in this year's X Factor, final 24 acts out of 200,000 who auditioned. So you're all gonna have to watch it and vote for her band FRANK.

hi ladies - can i join you too? ei sent me your way from a thread i started about being fed up of ttc.

LOL, of course Okiwi although I should say we are not THAT depressing hee hee..., we've just been here a long time! How long have you been trying?