The WIMBEWAI(N)F Club - Only a few more to find!

[BuckyAndCocktails]

New thread girlies....running out of credit on the stupid hotel internet connection...so can't say anything..duh..

[higs]

it's nice to find a group who understand how i feel about ttc. we've been ttc over 3 years and have done most if not all of the tests and it seems there's nothing wrong, so it's unexplained infertility. One failed round of IVF and we're saving the cash for another round in the near future (hopefully) how about the rest of you?

Gah!!

I just wrote a ma-hoosive post and its disappeared! And then my laptop died so now I'm on my mobile which also has no battery...

All I really wanted to do was say hi to the new people here!

I'll be back later with battery xx

Morning ladies

It's lovely to see some new ladies on here . This is a lovely and supportive thread, definitely my MN "home" too, and have been my lifeline in getting through ttc.

MrsH that scan sounds lovely - it must be amazing to see your baby so clearly. And I'm glad the consultant was good, but you should definitely use your slight nervousness to make sure that everyone is up to speed with your birth plans. Glad to hear that little courgette is small but perfectly formed - there's still plenty of time for her to grow after all!

Bucky hope you had a swell weekend lady. How did the car boot sale go? I am a massive fan of car boot sales...although I'm actually banned from going at the moment as our current tiny flat just has no more space for my love of bargains! Hope you made a tidy sum

LizBaz hello and welcome . Sorry to hear that you were a bit surprised at the doctor recommending IVF - I'm pregnant after my first round of IVF and we had to have it because of my husband's low count (we actually had ICSI, where they inject a single sperm into the egg, rather than IVF, as where there's any issue with the sperm clinics won't risk regular IVF) and I still remember the shock and anger (and grief) when I had to come terms with the fact that nature needed a major helping hand in our case. I didn't want to "waste" time with IUI, as the success rates are so low compared to IVF especially with male factor issues and the biggest indicator of success with IVF is maternal age. Three rounds of IUI still wouldn't give us a cumulative success rate as high as one round of IVF/ICSI with the clinic we chose so going straight to IVF seemed like a much better plan for us (but as we went private we had this choice...had I been on the NHS I may well have had to have IUI as a first step before IVF). Clomid has most success with women with ovulatory problems like PCOS and clear tubes, but it could be something to consider while you're waiting for your IVF go (or goes...your PCT sounds as good as Bucky's with regard to funding cycles!).

Okiwi hello and welcome to you too . I'm so sorry to hear that the first round of IVF didn't work...but I'm glad you're planning another go. I also post on the assisted conception thread, where the ladies are a fount of knowledge for all things IVF related, and it seems really common for IVF to take up to three cycles to work. I'm not sure where you're based, but it may be cheaper to travel abroad for IVF (Norway, surprisingly for such an expensive country, is actually very reasonable for IVF and a lady on the assisted conception thread called LondonLottie went there for her first round). Anyway, it's great to "meet" you and this thread is a great support for the ups and downs of ttc

RFN2&3 hope you're taking these last weeks easy...can't remember quite when you're due but it's August isn't it? Not long now til you meet your twins - so exciting!

GG thinking about you and hoping things are OK with you and MrGG xx

O7MTW great to hear that your little girl is growing up . Can't believe it's been 10 months already!

DigiGirl wow at your sister! She must be thrilled! I've never actually watched X factor but I may just have to check it out this year

PnM gah at the laptop issues - I got a new laptop recently and I don't like typing on it yet so am doing all my MNing at work (tricky in a comedy open plan office!).

Ei hope you're doing well lovely lady

I'm just back from a lovely weekend in Sweden - we went to a friend's wedding on an island off Gothenburg...it was so beautiful and a really relaxing break. For my first ever sober wedding it was great! Quite a few of my friends figured it out and were utterly delighted (a few of them are parents themselves so had lots of lovely tips to share ). But we decided to book another scan for Saturday - my NHS scan isn't for another 3 weeks, which just feels so far away, especially now that so many people know...I'll be 10 and a half weeks by Sat so we should get to see a lot more than the 7 week scan .

Anyway, time to actually go and do some work (well, maybe go and get a hot chocolate and then do some work )

Hello ladies ! Apologies for such a long absence. I have read most of this thread and it is lovely to hear everybody's news. I was delighted to read about GG until last week when it all seems to have gone wrong - I am so, so sorry to hear that .

Bucky am glad to hear you are on the road to IVF and still as mad as a box of frogs

I met up with Ei a few weeks back - it was great to finally meet an MN lady. She was lovely as was her DD.

DS and I are getting on great, he is 8 months old now !! anyway he has just woken from nap so best go - I'll keep an eye on you ladies and pop back soon xx

Hi all x

GG still thinking of you (((hugs)))

MrsH Glad your little courgette is doing well and I hope the hospital take your concerns seriously x

Bucky hope the money making is going well

PnM How are things going for you this month? its a real bugger when you lose the big posts, never seems to happen on little posts either

Caitni Glad you enjoyed the wedding and its a great idea to have an extra scan- they are so reassuring in the early days

DG Wow how exciting! will certainly keep an eye out

Okiwi and Lizbaz welcome to the thread the ladies here are lovely and hopefully you will be getting those bfps soon

EI How are things with you? hope you havent had anymore stupid "advice" from that GP

waves to anyone I have missed x x

Well I am 36+5 today and I am being induced in the morning!! I have had enough and my consultant is happy for them to arrive now I have to ring at 7am to make sure they have a bed and then if they do I have to go in for 8am. I am really excited and nervous all at once lol

RFN2&3 wow - great news about the induction tomorrow . Getting to practically 37 weeks is fanastic with twins, and I bet you can't wait to meet them! I hope the induction goes smoothly and I can't wait to hear how it goes (though will fully expect you to be too busy with a 3 year old and newborn twins to get much time on MN ) xxxx

Mibbes hello! Glad to hear your little man is thriving and lucky you getting to meet Ei

hi ladies
RFN2&3 wow!! induction tomorrow!! amazing!! buckets of luck for you and i decided to ignore the advice and go solo on the diet
welcome to our new ladies okiwi glad you have joined us everyone here is lovely and we all know the struggle well
it is CD5 for me today cycle 23 but good news is i have had a (relatively) normal AF for once and i am plodding on with my diet and i am hoping to be a healthier weight/skinny cow before long as RFN2&3 said before i had some dismal and truelly awful 'advice' from my GP when i went to see him to discuss my wish to gain better health ( he told me to starve myself as that is how he thinks i will lose weight as i must be beyond sensible advice) i can assure you all that i will DEFNITELY NOT be taking that snippet of advice despite some less than sypathetic MNers who told me i should follow it anywho... i am halfway through week 1 of my new lifestyle and it seems to be ok for me at the mo
i hope you are all doing well
GG if you are lurking i am thinking of you and i hope you are as well as can be expected {{{{{{higs}}}}}
xx ei xx

Ok, am going to try again.....

Its lovely to welcome some new faces here

Before I get onto that - R4N2+3 best of luck tomorrow Can't wait to hear about it all. Hope you managed to get your childcare sorted?

Right....

Lizbaz come join me in the 'Unexplained' corner - I find it a really irratating diagnosis as you really can't do anything to sort it out!! I was put on Clomid by my consultant. I think they did it just to stop me moaning (I reckon I could rival anybody for the worst PCT). I've had one round of the Clomid so far (unsuccesful) totally unmonitored so no idea if it did its thing or not! I totally echo Bucky in saying "IVF is extreme but from what the ladies on here have experienced it would seem the most effective way to a dc if nature isn't going to do it". Not sure any amount of Clomid is really going to help me. Although I haven't really reconciled myself to IVF either.... Tis tough, isn't it?

Hi to Okiwi I'll get Lizbaz to budge up a bit so you can join us in the 'Unexplained' corner! Similarly, I've been ttc for 3 yrs as well. Have you got a date set for your next round of IVF?

Sounds like you had a lovely time in Sweden Caitni (luckily I 'previewed' my message cos the first time I wrote 'Swindon' which I'm sure has some lovely parts but is nowhere near as beautiful as where you've just been ). And YAY for an early scan - hope you're going to post some pics?

That's v cute about the laughing courgette MrsH . And a huge relief that she is growing ok now. Only 12 weeks left? Seriously??

GG am, as ever, thinking of you

Well done Ei with the weight loss - definitely do it sensibly (ignoring all GP advice). My DH went food shopping the other night and has obviously decided We are now On A Diet. Everything is healthy eating this or low fat that!! Bit boring if you ask me but I do need to lose this spare tyre I'm carrying around!

How was the carboot Bucky?? Hope you thwarted the early birds by not allowing them to see in your carboot (scarred me for life, the ferocity of some carbooters - in yer boot before you could get the key out of the ignition!!) and made lots of dosh?

Finally a massive hello to all the oldies who have returned!

Pleased to hear E is doing well Mibbes - 8 months already? Blimey!

How is F doing MTW? Lovely to 'see' you !

DG - have been following your DSIS updates on FB, you must be v excited! And for the unofficial trying - how doubly exciting!!

Right - have officially written the most ridiculously long post, if you've got to the end of it, well done!!

No time to update on me (although, to be fair, there's not a lot to say!!)

xx

EI Glad you ignored the doc and good luck with the diet, it may take a few different ones to find what suits you but you have already done the hardest bit by deciding to do it Hopefully you wont be able to stick to it for long anyway

PnM Glad you managed to get your post up eventually lol

Well I rang the hospital and they have put me off till 9am so cant really complain, I am just having breakfast before we set off just after 8am and I am nervous as hell!!
I may be away a few days but will try and update asap.
I do hope to come back to some good news though!!

RFN2&3 WOW how exciting!!! Hope it's going well Can't wait to hear your news. All i can say is that life with twins goes really really quickly, so make sure to savour every precious moment

lizbaz & okiwi Welcome! This is a lovely thread and it's great to have some new people. I have found no end of support here through ttc & IVF.

GG Love to you as always. XX

07MTW & Mibbes lovely to see you both

MrsH So pleased to hear that the latest scan was fine. Nothing wrong with her being smaller - you don't want to give birth to a great big marrow Oh, and a from me as well at you only having 12 weeks to go!

Bucky So, hope you made loads at the boot fair. We did one a while ago and i found it quite addictive!

DG I've been enjoying your X-factor updates on FB and will of course be voting when the time comes!!

Caitni Looking forward to hearing about your scan on Saturday. I had one at 10 weeks (not through choice though) and there was definitely loads more to see than at 7 weeks. Enjoy!

EI Good luck with the new lifestyle!

PnM Lovely long post from you but no news from the PnM household! What are you up to?

Thing are going well here - the boys will be 4 weeks on Friday!! I can't believe it. They really are little angels (well, most of the time ) and are much more awake and alert now. I'm slowly getting back to normal, and trying to get out for lots of walks to build up my strength again. DH goes back to work on monday, which is going to take some getting used to, as it's been lovely to have him around.

Hope you're doing ok R4N2+3 and the littlies have arrived safe and sound?

Is there any one around who can talk me down off the ceiling? My sister told me this afternoon that she is pregnant.

The same sister who is currently having tests to ensure her tubes etc are all in order before she started ttc.

Said tests are only being carried out, ironically, due to the problems I'm having.

The same sister who only started actually trying to conceive THIS MONTH.

It was all I could do not to cry in front of her. In fact, I did such a good job of feigning indifference she insisted on telling me, in minute detail, how she found out, how she told her husband etc etc.

I'm a horrible person aren't I.

Er, Picknmix, no you are not a horrible person. It's shitty and unfair for you, that's what it is. When my sister was pregnant (before we even started contemplating it) I was so pleased for her because it felt like the next best thing to having a baby myself, but I can see that if I had been having problems at that time the fact that she is my sister would make it all just too close to home. I hope you will forgive me for saying this but she doesn't sound like the most sensitive person in the world. Knowing what you've been through I would have thought offering to keep the baby talk to a minimum would be more appropriate...

GG I hope you're looking in occasionally and know that we are all thinking of you and hoping you are feeling ok.

RFN2 hopefully by now you have your babies and you are tucking into a giant post birth dinner!

Welcome to Lizbaz and Okiwi. The great thing about this thread is that we've all had different ishooes and experiences but there's lots of support to be had and none of us are leaving until we've all got our babies!

MOB wow- can't believe they are 4 weeks already. I bet they are starting to show their personalities and everything...

Caitni I'm glad you had a lovely time in Swindin and that the pregnancy is going fine. Are you about 10 weeks now? The scan should be way more interesting than the earlier one!

Mibbles it's nice to see you again and to hear about Mini-Mibbles.

Ei at that doctor! I mean, "eat less, run more" is the best weightloss advice anyone ever gave me (I tend to mess up by eating healthy food but loads of it!), but it is hardly "starve yourself". You do sound on good form, though.

Bucky how was the boot sale?

Phew! Think that is everyone, but sorry if I missed anyone. I am feeling tres tired now and looking forward to the next 9 weeks passing quickly so I can stay home and relax with my bump. DD was really late so I tend to think I may as well work for as long as humanly possible (so I don't spend all of my savings by the time the baby comes) but I've been having lots of braxton hicks contractions and so am starting to wonder whether it might all be a bit earlier this time around!

Just wanted to let you know my birth announcement.

Went in to hospital yesterday at 09:00 as arranged, only to sit there until nearly 11:30. The midwife managed to break my waters and advised we went on a nice stroll to get things going. 14:30 nothing was moving so they put in the drip. Lots more waiting around and finally started getting contractions about 16:45 and they came thick and fast. 17:30 came with just us and the midwife in the room and I warned her it wasn't going to be long. 17:39 baby girl was here! Weighing 6 lb 1/2 oz. They quickly put the scanner on me to find that baby 2 was breech but they were happy for me to try and deliver naturally. 17:45 major gush of second waters (I think I soaked everyone in the room) and suddenly 2 feet popped out. 17:52 baby boy safely delivered weighing 7 lb 2 1/2 oz.

Both are feeding really well and we came home this afternoon. Looking forward to getting to know them and choosing some names.

PicknMix I only just logged on and saw your post . You are not horrible . If you had been starved of food for two weeks and somebody started telling you about the fantastic steak they just ate, would you be a bitch for wanting to kill them for it??? I think not. Apart from hunger, wanting a baby is probably one of the strongest drives some women have. You are a human being, don't give yourself a hard time. I tried to ring you but I am not sure if the person I was ringing was you...does you number end with 481? Anyway, I just wanted to check you were ok and if you want to talk call me. [higs].

RFN2&3 Hope all went well and you are at recouperating well.

I did ok at the car boot sale. Its the second one I have ever had but I still can't get over the people who practically climb into your boot before you can get the stuff out. I mad £90 but as I was selling total tat, I think I did quite well. So am pleased with my haul. .

Went for my day 3 bloods AGAIN today. Geez this is SOOOO tedious. I am so fed up of ttc. My form filling appointment (Mark II) is next Wednesday, hopefully my organs will not have some other defect that prevents it once again!

P.S. I saw over 20 pregnant woman today...is there something going on? Is it a conspiracy?

Having said that part of my day was at a hospital, so I guess that could have had something to do with it

oh...oh...and guess where I am from!!! . I kid you not. Although I try not to advertise the fact if I can help it!! It begins with S and ends with don...LOL

hello everyone, thanks for the welcome.
congratulstions 2&3 nice to hear some good news. P&M you're not a bad person, what you're feeling is totally understandable. sorry i don't know the backstory but it sounds like a very awkward situation.
bucky were you at the GWH by any chance? if so i used to live near you!

Okiwi I originate from the down of the swine LOL but I don't live there now! I left when I was 18! Nice to see you back.

i'm not from there sadly, but i lived sbout 10 miles away a few years ago.

wow RFN2 you are some sort of baby producing genius! If my labour goes half as well with this one as yours just did I will be delighted! Congratulations - I'm glad the babies have arrived safely. Welcome to the world, little people.

Higs to everyone else.

Pnm hope you are off the ceiling and feeling better.

Good to see you again Okiwi

I am having a bit of a pants day which culminated in me dropping my cashcard and travel card as I got off the bus in the pouring rain. And I can't eat in the evenings anymore because my stomach feels like it is being pressed somewhere up into my throat. On the upside I am 29 weeks (I think) tomorrow and although I am still having nightmares about something being wrong with the courgette, every day that passes is a day closer to reacquainting myself with my toes!

RFN2&3 Well done!! Lovely news - so pleased to hear you are all safe and well, and that it all went so quick! Enjoy

MrsH Hope you are having a better day today?

PnM Don't beat yourself up - your reaction and feelings are entirely normal. I completely agree with what Bucky said - especially that the drive to have a baby can be overwhelmingly strong. Hopefully your sister will attempt to be more tactful in the future.

Bucky Roll on a more straightforward appt for you next week.

Have a nice weekend everyone

Evening ladies

RFN2&3 huge congrats to you . What a lovely birth announcement - I got a bit teary . I can't wait to hear the names you choose and hope you're enjoying the precious first days with your LOs

MOB four weeks today . Time is flying! Glad to hear all is happy in the MOB household

MrsH hope today was better than y'day...I hate rubbish days like that. I think I'll be like you with the worrying, I'm still so anxious and am wondering if I'll ever enjoy pregnancy! Which I didn't expect after wanting it for so long . Still, at 29 weeks courgette is getting bigger and stronger by the day . Loved your scan pic on FB btw - officially the best scan pic I've seen as she looks so happy!

PnM big big higs for you . I think your reaction was totally normal, sad though that is. I'm very close to my younger sister, and she knew all the ins and outs of our ftc, and was gutted when she told me she was pregnant last December. I held it together on the phone (of course) and then just sobbed and sobbed for ages after I hung up...and felt so guilty because of course I was happy for them but I was also just so gutted for me and my DH and the general unfairness of life. Hope you're feeling a bit better now - thinking of you xx

Bucky roll on next week so you can move past the tedious tests stage. Wow at your £90 - that's bloody briliant! And at where you're from - I've never been but everyone I've ever met from there has the same reaction as you

Waves to everyone else . DH is just back from work so can finally get dinner off the stove and into our tums. Quite excited as this is the first meal I've cooked in weeks that hasn't physically repelled me - makes a change from crackers and cheese!

And roll on the scan tomorrow - I need to see that things are OK as i've been irrationally worried

How was the scan, Caitni?

oh MOB it was amazing! Grown so much in the last few weeks, arms and legs waving away and it even turned away at one point. Perfect heartbeat and bang on for 10weeks+4days (the joy of IVF is that you know your dates exactly ). DH was gobsmacked - he only saw the pix of the 7 week scan as he had flu - and just couldn't get over all the movement. Definitely feels like we're going to have a baby now

In fact, been checking out ebay for the pram brands that we noticed all the Swedes using (Emmaljunga and Brio) . Early days I know but can't help myself

Give those boys of yours a big kiss from their cyber auntie caitni