The WIMBEWAI(N)F Club - Only a few more to find!

[BuckyAndCocktails]

New thread girlies....running out of credit on the stupid hotel internet connection...so can't say anything..duh..

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Sorry to hear that Levi. I think once you've come round to the idea of ivf it won't feel anymore 'deliberate' than charting/cm-obsessing/opk-testing (of which I am guilty of the second despite supposedly 'casually' ttc#2).

Thanks, digitalgirl - just rang the surgery to speak to the lovely fertility nurse about IVF (yikes). She isn't in until Wednesday so all the gearing up was for nothing and feeling a bit frustrated now but at least things might be moving soon. Will try to be super-nice to DH for the next few days too and then gently return to the topic at a good moment and try to have a civil discussion. Hope your own TTC goes well - so hard, I know, to keep it casual!

Hi all!

Levi - IVF is a massive step to take for you and your partner, but I think DG is most likely right, IVF will feel no less normal than temping, cervical persuits or opk testing once you start - you need Caitni to talk to, she's back soon though. Sorry to hear about af, I know the feeling of holding out hope for the 3 month HSG luck to take effect...doubly

MrsH how are you doing?! Its super close now 'til your due date isn't it?? Hope you're coping ok.

DG how are you? Already starting to obsess a bit? Its so very hard not to, isn't it?! I tried to give up but its always lurking in the back of my mind!

Hope you're having afab time away Caitni

Hellooooooooo Bucky, Ei (fab new name), MOB, JB, Okiwi and R4N2+3, hope you're all ok?

I've just taken delivery of a copy of TCYF....in the hope that the laws of pregnativity kick in and it becomes redundant

Had a good week with my dad, although meant I had to spend some time with my sister (we have a new plan - to get a dog - and my darlingsister suggested that when she was on maternity leave she could have our new dog stay with her, nay, she would even swap the new baby for the dog as it would be 'more interesting' . She is a fool (and not getting her mits on my [hypothetical] dog)).

PnMx

Bonjour all

Levistubbstears have you made any decisions since you last posted? FWIW, I think we all have mixed feelings about parenthood. I've met women who went through hell to get pregnant and felt nothing but terror when they finally got what they wanted. And with my DD we tried for (ok not that long) 6 or so months, and she was very much wanted, but still I was shocked when I got my BFP and I spent the next 38 weeks worrying about everything, from money to how we would cope to whether I could be a halfway decent mother. These things do work out though and I am sure the mixed feelings will bugger off for a while once you know what you want to do next.

Caitni I hope you are enjoying your holiday.

Picknmix well done for surviving sister time. I think I would have agreed to swap the dog, though!! That might have put the fear into her!

Right, we have a man here looking at whether our house is falling down (please not!) so I have to go deal with him. Courgette is fine, I am huge and still have a cold and am really hoping that the next 5-7 weeks go more smoothly than the last couple... I have 9 more working days to go and then I can (sort of) put my feet up for a bit.

Hi there,

I've booked an appointment with the fertility doc and nurse to talk about IVF, so the ball is rolling (so to speak!). Bit dismayed this morning though as DH said 'I'm sure I don't need to be there, you can tell me what I need to know', just confirming how uninterested he is by the whole process and how much this is my project and something he's only grudgingly involved with at all... I don't think he realizes how hurtful and upsetting I find this. I also sneakily wanted to have him there in case they said anything about how detrimental the drinking might be to the chances of success (in fact I might even have primed them to say something like that, providing they think so, obviously - or is that too despicable?). If they tell me, and I tell him, he won't believe me or will brush it off and assume I'm exaggerating. A bit blue about it all this morning.

Anyway, I should be feeling more positive about the fact that I can get IVF (for free) at all. Thanks for all the support. I do want to go for it - really feel it's now or never.

Fingers crossed for the house news, MrsHappy and hope things start to feel easier soon, and the cold goes away. At least Courgette is doing well!

Sorry to hear about things with your sister, PickNMix. I'd say having a newborn and being up all night for the tenth time in a row etc. etc. will chasten her a little when it actually happens...

Hope the hols are good, Caitni! And hi to everyone else!

Hello everyone,

Just stopping in quickly as I need to tidy up, this place is a mess!!

bucky Didn't you have an appointment this week about IVF stuff? Sorry for not wishing you good luck . How did it go? Are you still on course for November treatment?

PnM Yay for getting a dog! What sort are you planning to get?

MrsH Hope your remaining work days just fly by! Not long now...

Levi Perhaps your DH is just feeling a bit pushed out by the idea that IVF is 'all about you', as his contribution is his only medical involvement. I hope that comes across how I mean it to . I just think IVF is hard for both men and women emotionally, it might not be that he isn't interested but that he needs to find his feet with it all. He should certainly come to the appontment though.

GG How are you doing? I do think about how you are - hope that doesn't sound weird! You know what I mean I'm sure.

Must go, love to all.

hey ladies
its so quiet in here
where is everyone??
not much to report here TBH so i just thought i would duck my head in but the couch has been deserted for a while CD21 here and i am taking thing easy this cycle. me and DH have decided that TTC is getting too stressful and it may be time to stop. we cant afford to go down the assisted conception route so the normal way is our only chance and it seems to be quite inneffective at this particular moment in time i am concentrating on my weight issues and have managed up to now (with the support of my GP) to shift 5% of my body weight and counting
i have however had an overwhelming urge to do a test the past few days so who knows
hope everyone is well
xx ei xx

Blimey it is quiet! Helllloooooooooooooooo. Where is everyone?

ei Well done on the weight loss, that is a fantastic achievement. Have you any idea where you are in your cycle at the moment? OOoooh we know you have accurate predictions. You should test.

DD can now wave. It is very cute, almost regal and she shows it off at any opportunity. I am back to work next week, boo. I'm going back part time so it shouldn't be too awful .

Hope everyone is well. Love to you all.

Gosh the WIMBEWAIF Club is dying a death . I must admit I have been staying away recently (obviously ) because its all just a bit too depressing. JB thanks for asking and yes I had my co-ordination appt. Just waiting for AF now and then its all systems go. ...I am sh*tting myself about all the injections. Not that I am particularly needle phobic but doing the stuff at home is just weird.

Levi I think JB may be right, men are weird and their reaction is often bizarre. Does your DH want a baby? (sorry if you have been through this its been awhile), is it just the IVF he is unexcited about?

Ei Woohoo Get you, with your 5% well done. I have precisely NO willpower or discipline and have only ever lost weight when stressed . I think those of us who are left on the bench are all in the place you describe, hence the absence! After years and years, there is just nothing left to say about the whole process! . I still see GG she's doing ok. She is sooo strong, I think I would be either in a mental institution or have a (more) serious gin problem LOL...

Talking of DHs and IVF. At my co-ordination meeting, somebodys DH fainted when he saw the needle!! It was all super dramatic and we had to leave the room while the nurses rushed in. I felt so sorry for his wife, she is going to have to do all those jabs herself .

Everyone is on holiday this week...PicknMix, GG, DG....so lucky . I wanna go on holiday!!

MrsH how ya doing sweetie? The week's are rolling on...baby will be here before we know it.

Love and hugs to all the other girlies. Miss ya love ya squeeze ya.

Bucky xx

hey bucky good to 'see' you x great news that your IVF will be startng so soon m very excited for you
hello to everyone else
mrsH not long now before you pop bet you cant wait for the mat leave so you can put your feet up
on all the holiday-ers have a great time
xx ei xx

Bucky glad things are moving forward now, have my fingers firmly crossed for you

EI Wow on the weightloss though I hope you are not using the gps advice to starve

MrsHappy How are you and little courgette doing? cant believe how quick it is going

JB your DD sounds so cute hope going back to work isnt too stressful x

PnM cant believe your sister!! are you any further along with getting a dog?

aves to everyone else caitni Levi dg and anyone else I have forgotten

ell the twins are just over 7 weeks now and aare fitting in well, we do have a couple of hours on an evening where they can be unsettled (they tend to get overtired and hungry at the same time!!) but other than that they are fab
e are vising county durham next weekend for fil 60th which involves a 6 hour journey and stay in a hotel ith all 3 kids so will be interesting to say the least

I am on a mission to lose the baby weight now so am hoping I can do as well as ei
Need to lose 2 stone of baby weight and would also like to lose another 2 stone on top so may take a while

also very of the holidayers!!

Afternoon ladies

Just a quick one from me as am wrecked tired/jet lagged as we got back from the States today. Sorry for the radio silence but been away for over 2 weeks - it was great! Hope all the other holiday-ers are having fun (and )

Bucky yay that IVF stuff is starting - super exciting . The injections are fine, daunting at the start (though glad my DH didn't faint!). Will be keeping my fingers crossed that everything goes smoothly for you xx

Ei well done on the weight loss - excellent work . Did you test?

JB hope going back to work isn't too awful. Big regal waves to your DD

MrsH hope things are good with you - getting close to d-day!

Ready 7 weeks already! Good plan on the weightloss front, but don't be too hard on yourself...I'm planning to take the view that it takes 9 months to grow a baby so am hoping to not stress about weight until 9 months after birth...am sure eating sensibly and running around after 3 little ones will have the weight dropping off for you .

Levi not sure if I've mentioned this but i found the start of IVF actually less stressful...mainly cos we could stop the frantic shagging sessions and actually just have sex when we wanted. So we both sort of relaxed. And IVF is stressful, but it's much more manageable than I expected.

PnM hope all well with you.

Sorry for ram bling. Don't have my contacts in so am squintin g at the screen! Really tired but need to go get dinner sorted. Am ravenous.

Am 18 weeks on Tues and looking quite pregnant. Excitingly have also felt the first flutters of movement .

Love to all xxx

Great news re. the IVF, Bucky! You'll have to keep me posted as I teeter on the edge... (Well, in practice join a long waiting list, I suppose!) All the very best with it. Long story over whether DH wants a baby - short answer is no, but he is co-operating and is so great with kids (and enjoys them) so am hoping he would really get into it with his own, and I'm not perversely forcing him into something he'd hate. But does account for his feet-dragging over IVF and all the rest of it.

Thanks, Caitni - that is so nice to hear re. the IVF. Would be good to reinstate fun shagging - TTC sex does get a bit tedious/fraught. And I think I'll be happier when progress is being made, even if it's a bit grim physically. (And raises the stakes emotionally .) Glad you had a great holiday and enjoy the flutterings - very exciting!

Well done on the weight loss, Ei - I'm rubbish at this (even though I run, I just eat far too much to ever lose very much!) so am very impressed!

OK, have to head, but hellos too to JB, MrsH, RN2and3, PnM, and everyone else!

Hello everybody!!

I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

Have been away in the south of france which was rather lovely. Unfortunately the local authorities chose the week we were over there to dig up the drainage system; cue 8am starts to the day with pneumatic drills and diggers right next to the pool! Also found out that my friends are not great in confined spaces for extended periods of time - much bickering and bitchiness - !

So how are we all doing?

Bucky can't believe you're so close to your treatment starting! Excited? Petrified?

Your regal daughter sounds incredibly cute JB, hope your first day back at work has gone ok?

I'm guessing you're officially on maternity leave now MrsH? Hope your house isn't falling down?!

Woohoooooo for the weight loss Ei . Great work!! I've just joined a gym - just need to work up some enthusiasm for it now!

Very excited for your first baby flutterings Caitni and fab news that you had such a lovely time away

The first step is making that appointment Levi - I hope you can persuade DH to come along with you. If he doesn't, it might be worth looking up some literature (leaflets especially) on the practical things men can do to 'help' the situation and make sure you find one that states that drinking can effect fertility. Sneaky but if he's not at the appointment, just tell him the consultant gave them to you to pass on to him. Maybe?

As for me and my doggy plans - still working it all out. We want to rescue a dog and are looking at lab's in particular. Although we're also looking into offering our home as a B&B for dogs in training for the Canine Partners charity. They need people to offer a dog a bed for the night whilst its still in training. Perfect for us as we won't have to leave the dog at home during the day. Only trouble is not sure if I could hand the dog on to its new owner when it had completed training

Right, off to scan the job pages as have had e.n.o.u.g.h of my job now - anybody know of any jobs going in the Sussex region?!!!

Thanks, PnM, that's a good idea re. the leaflets. (Was reading the post in bed last night and DH got in beside me - hasty use of the scrollbar so I think I got away with it!) I think that's my best bet as I don't think he'll come but we'll see.

(Obviously stopping surfing the web in bed might also be a helpful way to maximise chance of conceiving!! )

Good luck with the dog decision - it's really hard when you're away all day, isn't it? Have seen a couple of gorgeous puppies recently and thought wistfully about having one - that idea, bizarrely, my DH is much happier about, even though we couldn't possibly look after it as things stand. Hope you find an arrangment that suits you, anyway. And glad France was lovely, if friends in confined spaces sometimes less so!

Waves to everyone else!

Gahhhhhhhh!

I know you're all off doing far more exciting things but I, for once, have a real life TTC question!

Stupid stupid Clomid gives me false hope so this month, for the first time in ages, I have gone back to my roots and am ridiculously symptom spotting. After 3 yrs of this whole lark, I feel like a teenager again! Anyway, gave up hope couple of days ago cos boobs became periody hurting and I was getting cramps....

Cramps disappeared and then period arrived BUT it was one day(ish) of brown stuff (apols for TMI) and has since buggered off. Boobs still hurt so much, make my eyes water when I move.

So, do I, for the first time in what seems like years (in reality, probably since Christmas) actually piss on a stick????

Naughty Clomid raising my hopes again....

PnM pee on a stick defo!!! it would be farking AMAZING if you get your BFP!! go on!!! i am around for another half hour til i have to pick DD up from school so hurry up

PnM oooh I agree with Ei - get POAS now! My hopes are firmly up for you [fingers crossed emoticon] but I know that this way madness doth lie too...still, you gotta find out . PS glad you had fun in France!

PnM Well, i log on for the first time in ages, and see this!!! Go and test ! Better to know one way or the other, i think. Obviously i hope it is a BFP!!! Now go and pee on a stick, or if you haven't got one go and buy one!

EI Well done on the weight loss!!

MrsH Nearly there now! Am so excited for you. I think you must have finished work now? Hope you are having a good rest.

Caitni Very pleased to hear you are looking pregnant and feeling movements!

RFN2&3 Hope the weekend away goes well. I'm on a mission to lose weight too, lets motivate each other!

GG Big hello to you if you're lurking

Bucky Yay to IVF starting soon. Hopefully you will be fine with the injections. i quite enjoyed it almost, but then i'm weird!

DG Am excitedly following your sisters progress and have enjoyed the FB updates!

JB How's it going back at work?

Levi Hope your DH decides to attend the appt with you. i certainly found it good to have my DH there so it became something we were doing together, as opposed to just me.
Men are fickle creatures though!

All fine here - DTs are 12 weeks on Friday, where has the time gone? They are very smiley and interactive now, which we're all loving.

PnM Definately test!! The first clue that I was pregnant with the twins was painful boobs and the only time they had felt like that before was when I was pg with ds
Infact I woke up at 3am thought "Im pg" and went back to sleep! POAS when I got up and just sat waiting for the 2nd line lol

MOB cant believe you're boys are 12 weeks already mind you I cant believe that my 2 are 8 weeks today lol.
Sophie has started giving the odd smile and Adam smiles in his sleep but cant wait for them to interact a bit more
Definately up for motivating eachother, twin mummies getting (back to) yummy lol

posted too early!!

Caitni Those early flutters are great arent they glad you had a good holiday x

Levi I hope your dh does come with you to the appointment, he may be more supportive once he knows a few more facts x

PnM...where are you????? Have you tested yet?????? That SO sounds like symptoms. I have my fingers and any other fingers I can get hold of crossed!!!

AND...when did the looking for a dog thing happen??? . ePupz all the way for pupskis...that's where both mine came from. I just pass the time looking at the little cuties! Both mine were rejects bless them. Finn Dog was returned to the breeder when the family didn't want him so was kind of a rescue dog and Molly was the runt that nobody wanted...aw.

Hmmph , could only find new pups needing a home on ePupz...its made me kind of . There are loads and not that many people are gonna want a pup

Hello laydeez

Hope everyone is well. I am sorry I have been so quiet... I do check in pretty often but am so farking tired I just can't be bothered typing...

PnM please do a test, mrs. Did you do one yet? Did you? The boobs of torture sound soooo promising. I'm crossing everything (including my legs!)

Bucky it is good to see you! When do you start the IVF business? Must be soon, yes?

EI (love the new name) wooot! for the fabulous weight loss. I have been eating for 7 or 8 in the last couple of weeks and keep catching myself doing that old man heavy breathing thing. I am actually looking forward to having the baby out so I can walk up hill at a decent pace again!

Caitni that's fab that you are beginning to feel movements. Makes it all more real somehow, I think. But don't fret if you go a few days without any - tis all perfectly normal in the beginning.

Levi I hope your DH gets on board soon. Does he really not want a baby or does he just think things are fine as they are? Sometimes I think men just are happy with things as they are and because they don't get the same hormotional madness that we do they assume all is well...

MOB and Rfn23 I cannot believe my cyber niece and nephews are growing up already! But it is great to hear how well they are all doing.

Well, I am 37 weeks tomorrow so at some time in the next 5 or so weeks you all will have a new cyber niece. I am getting quite excited, but it is tempered by terror at the thought of producing a baby from my fanny. I'm also scared by the thought of another cs so there is not really an upside of the delivery itself (bar the lovely baby of course). Tomorrow is my last day at work which is good because I find myself getting increasingly ratty on the train, especially when I actually have to ask some fit and healthy looking 20 year old man to relinquish his seat. Grrr! Our nanny is leaving us tomorrow, fortunately DD seems quite happy with the idea of spending all day with me, but I am a bit nervous about going back to full time parenting. I haven't done any of that since 2006!!

Will be back sooner next time.

hi ladies
well AF arrived through the night so im out and CD1 cycle 25 for me but on the upside my cycle was 28 days this time it has been varying between 31-40 days recently so things are looking up methinks
PnM any news
hi to everyone else
xx ei xx