The WIMBEWAIF and WIMBEWAINF 2WW club, new and existing members welcome.

[Bucky2008]

Ahhh, look how nice and clean and new this thread is .

And there is a big ScaryHairy birthday cake for us all to share. I am not being good till after Thursday afterall...

sorry that meant to say TEENY BEARCUB not teen y earcub oh typos the bane of my existence...
xx ei xx

Oh mob, why do things like this always happen together?? Really feel for you today - such a lot to take on and get to grips with . Yay for an enthusiastic MrMob though making the most of ov - you can't fault him for trying, eh! So pleased you have resident expert gg to ask questions - I can do tea and sympathy but I'm not very good on the technical bits!

Must be a huge relief to have your temperature drop sh - I'm so sorry for what you're going through but on the other hand really pleased to know its most prob not another ep. Do let us know how it goes at the docs today, hope they give you some support and information.

Poor old Molly dog! (did lol at gg's comment re pcos tho !). My step mums boxers used to suffer with acne - she used to use a bit of teatree on then which worked well at your comment bout knowing that you know your dogs aren't humans!! In my line of work, I do the opposite and I end up refering to my own doctor as a vet sometimes!!

So lovely to 'see' you jb - how is everything going?? How is the sickness?

Hi to Caitni and gg, am ing at the thought of a 2ww posse wandering around London with big red bruises on their foreheads, like some sort of WIMBEWAI[N]F badge of honour!

And hi to everyone I've missed! Apologies x

End of lunch break so best go do some work!

Xx

Oh MOB it never rains eh? Ei's experience sounds very encouraging. Perhaps you could ask to be seen sooner than 6 months, just to put your mind at rest. I hope you and MrMOB are taking good care of one another at the moment

You are all very sweet asking after me and jollycub. I'm being well looked after by the hospital, being a 'special' case after my transplant. I even got a quick scan yesterday (17 weeks on Friday) - one of the upsides of seeing the consultant! Everything was fine and jollycub was kicking like mad, I'm surprised I still can't feel anything. The sickness hasn't stopped although it is much, much improved. It just takes me by surprise sometimes and (TMI alert) I lose my breakfast!

Best of luck at the hospital tomorrow bucky. Make sure you do take it easy for a few days afterwards and let your DP look after you. LOL at poor Molly's acne, poor girl! You'll have to get her some doggy foundation.

PnM I hope you and your DH don't have too long to wait for his results. It really is crazy the amount of time it takes to get these things back. Fingers crossed for you both.

ei Sorry TEW got you. Damn her. I hope you are still taking it easy after your CP. You always seem to be rushing about helping your family and looking after your DD!

JollyBear it's nice to hear that you're being taken care of and that jolly cub is kicking away!

MOB I did some googling (I know, I know, googling is the way of satan and is NOT the same as proper medical advice...I try to chant this whenever I'm faced with a medical issue!) and it seems like Ei's advice is good - chances are the 6 month check up will be fine. And great link from Bucky! Never ceases to amaze me how much I learn from you wise Mumsnetters! It may be worth asking for more info about what the smear results actually say (part two of getting full results out of reluctant receptionists). I also want to say that it sounds like you and Mr MOB have a strong and loving relationship, which hopefully helps at times like this when it seems like there are too many obstacles to overcome.

Bucky I was ing at poor Molly's acne - maybe she's becoming a teenager now? Better keep an eye on her, she'll be all sulky soon, saying she never asked to be born before stomping out of the room muttering that no one understands her! And best of luck at the hospital tomorrow. Will be thinking of you and sending lots of [crossing fingers emoticons] that your tubes are clear.

GG oooh hearing that you're on the GI diet is making me think I'll start it this weekend. Glad to hear it's going well for you. You can totally lose a stone before Bali - amazing how a couple of pounds a week adds up.

SH hope the GP went well.

And big hello to PnM Ei Lou and everyone else.

Hi all

Bucky poor Molly having zits. Is it linked to her kennel cough? (I am now wondering whether Molly is hormonal or maybe I have kennel cough (as we have bad skin on common)). Lots of luck for tomorrow. I will be thinking of you so make sure you come on here when you feel able and let us know how it went.

MOB please don't stress about the smear. It could be absolutely nothing. The people who work in the lab read loads of smears one after the other and it is pretty common for them to have one where the result is not clear (which is often because the sample is not in great condition) so they refer them for follow up out of an abundance of caution.

JB I'm so glad you and jollycub are well and that you are managing to keep some food down!

LMAO at the thought of GG (another holiday?! )and Caitni with big red dots on their heads. Can you arrange for the needles on Tuesday - that way I'll be able to find you when we meet...

Big waves to Ei and Picknmix. I hope you're both well.

Well, I went to see the GP and explained what's been going on. There was a bit of a palaver because they had lost my appointment, then they sent me to see some healthcare assistant who wanted to weigh me and then finally I got to see a doctor. He waffled on a bit about how a specialist won't be able to do anything about miscarriages (which of course is true) but agreed to refer me because I need advice on the ectopic, what might have caused it etc. I do have a concern that I might have endometriosis (but must stop doing self-diagnosis by google...)- I have back ache and a couple of other symptoms and that can cause both ectopics and miscarriages. Anyway, I have an appointment in August when I get back from holiday which I think is pretty good. I'm not sure what the consultant will make of me (probably think I am a big drama queen) but I need some reassurance so they will just have to provide!!

that is really good news scary!! brilliant that your GP is referring you so promptly hopefully you wont need the appointment as you will get a sticky bean before then (although that said august is only a matter of weeks away where is this year going to?) either way hopefully when you go to see your consultant you will have a bfp to celebrate aswell as the extra support
xx ei xx

Not sure if you'll see this before you go in but I wish you the best of luck for tomorrow bucky. Let us know how you're doing when you feel strong enough - hope the doggies give you lots of luck licks before you go in!

Sh thats brilliant news that the doc has referred you so quickly - august is only just a few weeks away. I really hope they can give you some answers.

I'm off to bed now but hello to everyone else -such lovely news that the you are being so well looked after jb, its nice to hear the sickness is calming down a little.

Omigoodness - I'm out in the garden writing this on my mobile whilst I water the veg and I've just been dive bombed by a bat! (just a little insight into PnMs exciting little world - its non-stop party time down in the country!!)

Oooo, also, can you believe my dh told me he actually has to wait two weeks for someone to call him about arranging an appt for his sperm test?? I know there are far more important life changing medical things the hospital has to accommodate but why does it have to take so long?! Rubbish!

Right, really am off now, night all! Xx

Morning all

PnM two weeks!? I just don't understand how these things take so long...and dive bombed by a bat! The nature spotter in me finds that very cool I loved reading that you were posting via your mobile while watering veg. You multi tasker you!

Ei hope you're doing well!

SH so glad you've got a referral. And don't worry, they won't think you're a drama queen - you've a right to reassurance about what's going on with your own body!

Bucky hope today goes well and thinking of you .

MOB hope you're doing OK today xx

Morning to GG Lou JB Mibbes and everyone else. Hope you're all well on this overcast, vaguely rainy day!
Cxx

Just popping in to hold your hand too, Bucky.

hope all is well Bucky
hello to everyone else - must dash, mad day today... sorry very rude of me.

dropped you a text Bucky - good luck with everything.

Can only post very quickly as I am swamped at work, but I though I'd let you ladies all know that AF arrived. Disappointed, but not really very upset. I expected it. We'll just have to move on and try again this month.

hello to all regulars. I'll pop back later

hi girls
bucky i hope everything has gone well for you today xx
GG sorry TEW got you i hope you are ok
hope everyone else is ok
PnM divebombed by a bat!!!??? i hope the experience hasnt left you too shaken!! my DH is terrified of bats (and most other things that move) and i can imagine the blood curdling scream if it had happened to him so i am quietly chuckling due to that thought
to everyone and quickly ducks as PnM whips said bat at eis head
xx ei xx

Aw thanks girls . I felt the cyber hand holding! .

It would appear that I am not on death's door afterall after my lap and dye, so here I am returned .

It was not all good news though . I don't really know what the deal is but the doctor who came round after the op managed to tell me that I have a fibroid. His detailed diagnosis what that its 'not that big' and so 'shouldn't cause problems although they can cause miscarriage'. . What does 'not that big' mean exactly??? Not the size of a watermelon, or a bit bigger than a pea? As usual thought of everything I wanted ask after he walked off. I managed to collar a nursey looking woman to ask her if it could grow and she said 'yes, they do'. So now I have worked myself into a paranoid googling frenzy. . As I had a MC I am now wondering if that is what caused it . I had NO idea that there was anything like that going on, I thought I was perfectly fine....On the plus side all the 'plumbing' is fine.

Anyway, sorry for the mememe post. JB glad you are feeling a bit better and they are giving you special attention. And PnM, I def think I should start my speedy sperming business...2 weeks is ridulous! .

Oh TMI bit....there is LOADS of blood (and AF is not around). I asked them why if they were just having a poke around with a camera? . Apparently uteruses and tubes are not standing up like they are in a text book and flop around and they have to sick implements up you and shove stuff around . However, have very strong pain killers which are making me feel like I have had several margaritas so all is good .

Glad you're back and ok Bucky. And it is very good news about the plumbing. Don't Google about the fibroid. I suspect it might be one of those things that, unless it is an obviously bad position or is very big, is better left alone. You can always ask to speak to the consultant if you won't otherwise get a chance to discuss the outcome of your op. You can call his secretary and leave a message asking him to ring you when he gets a moment. Now, just take it easy until the bleeding lets up and don't forget to take your painkillers.

Picknmix - how exciting to have bat-related adventures. Am now really quite jealous of your out of London existence...

Hello Ladies..
I was wondering if I could join you on your thread, I was lurking on these conception boards for a few weeks, then got my BFP, only to be brought back down to earth with a CP today!
DH and I are trying to be philosophical about it, and we just want to try again ASAP but of course I feel really sad/disappointed. I have a DS (18 mo) and I know i'm so lucky to have him. Just now trying to be grateful for all i have, and like ScaryHairy says earlier in the thread, tomorrow is another day, and there will be another egg.

hi ladies
bucky glad all is well 'plumbing' wise and try not to worry about the fibroid have you got a follow up appointment? is there someone who you can talk to about your results? {{{{hugs}}}}
citybranch welcome sorry about your CP i have had 2 myself (april 08 and june 08) so i know what your going through sadly dont lose hope we are all in th same boat and are a supportive bunch good luck for this cycle
hi to everyone else
xx ei xx

Hi Citybranch, and welcome. I'm sorry to hear you had a CP. I had one too this time around but am trying to think of it as just one of those things (and definitely a reason to resist testing early in future for me). We'll all get our babies when the time is right.

Hi Ei - what were you doing up so late? [nosy]

Hello to everyone else. I had a bit much wine last night and was alarmed this am when my temp shot up to 37! Did another test to make sure beanie has really gone and got a BFN. I must be an HPT manufacturer's dream, what with my testing before, during and after my period!

Hope you all have a happy Friday!

Morning ladies

Mad, mad rush, but just wanted to say to Bucky that i'm glad that you have come through yesterday in one piece! I was thinking of you lots. It's good that the plumbing is all ok, and do try (ok, i know it's impossible) not to worry too much about the fibroid. I agree with SH - ask the consultants secretary if you can have a telephone conversation to discuss this - instead of having to wait until the next face to face appt. From what i've read (yes, i've googled, but you are not allowed to!!) the effect on fertility is debatable, and it seems to be dependent on the type of fibroid. So, it may be nothing that is affecting ttc anyway, but if it is, then it can be treated. Baby Bucky WILL get here

Welcome Citybranch!! Sorry to hear of the horrible time you have been having. The ladies here are all lovely, and we get each other through whatever life throws at us!

Hello to everyone else - i will come back later when i've got more time.

morning ladies
scary morning hun dont worry about the testing hun i did that too as it is hard trying to convince yourself that things are back to 'normal' when they shouldnt bei was up late as i had and still have a major cob on with DH!! hes a complete idiot!! in my opinion obviously!! im not sure whether to do an am i being unreasonable thread or not as for whatever reason (they are prob obvious aswell) i feel so annoyed by him and cant even talk to him at the mo!! i know i might be over reacting but aaaarrrrggghhhh bloody men!!!
MOB good morning
xx ei xx

Morning all!

Really lovely to hear that plumbing is in good order Bucky but please wait until you can have a proper talk with your consultant before you panic about the fibroid (easy for me to say I know). Wish I could be as succinct as MOB so will settle for saying "ditto what MOB said"!!

Can understand the panic Sh with a high temp like that! D'ya think Bucky could incorporate some kind of cheap [free and easy] pregnancy tests in her Speedy Sperm business??? Or may be set about working out s surefire way of knowing that you're pregnant (have I just brought the thread back round to orange toes again??! ).....

Hugs to GG for the arrival of af. There's always a little bit of hope just before your period starts and it still hurts each month, even when you're half expecting it to turn up. Hope you're feeling ok.

How are you feeling about things today Mob?

Hello Ei, you're still a bit of a night owl then? How is your job search going? Or have you put that on hold for a while?

Hello and welcome to Citybranch, really sorry to hear about your CP, must be horrible for you. But am liking your positive attitude!

How are things beside the sea Caitni? Is the commute working out ok for you? My husband thinks our house is the coolest place to live right now (he's a budding Bill Odie in the making!). His latest quest is to get a picture of the Egret who lands in the trees in the pond outside our window but the blasted thing obviously knows this and keeps flying off. Cue camera and binoculars at the ready! We also have a nature reserve near by which he 'makes' me visit with him. The deal is, I'll go bird spotting [can I just remind you all that I am 28, DH is only 30 - Christ knows what we'll be like in our retirement years!] if I can have Fish'n'Chips whilst we walk!

Right, am off to do some work now, can't believe its nearly 10am already! The perils of working from home.....

xx

Morning everyone,

Hope everyone's in good form.

Bucky so glad to hear the lap went well and glad that the plumbing's clear . I agree with the others that not good to be stressing about the fibroid until you have more information. MOB's advice about a telephone consultation is excellent. And not to be an Exmouth Market Needle pusher but the lovely Mike at the Helix Clinic actually lists fibroids as one of the conditions accupuncture is good for (see here)

MOB hope your manic morning calms down!

PnM keep those tales of country life coming - I love them! Where about is that you live? The commute is going well with me so far, I'm actually liking the structure it's bringing to my life (have to leave the flat at a certain time, have to leave my desk at a certain time). And plenty of time to read - which I love . I once had brunch at Spitalfields Market with Bill Oddie and his wife and grandkids innocently trying to eat in peace at the next table - I, of course, grinned at him nearly continuously like a loon, except when texting friends about my proximity to the great man. I still rank that "celeb sighting" above the time I spoke to Jude Law drunkenly in a pub for about an hour...I love the Springwatch/Autumnwatch stuff.

Ei sorry to hear about your DH - sometimes it's necessary to vent so maybe an am I being unreasonable thread is a good idea.

SH I've tested during a period, despite no postive (or even faintly postive!) results, only a "feeling", so I can only imagine that testing after a CP is the only way to get some peace of mind with a temp that high.

GG so sorry to to hear that AF arrived. But glad to hear that you're looking forward to the next egg already.

Citybranch hi and welcome! Sorry to hear about your CP xx

Hi to Lou JB Mibbes and everyone.

I had a bit of a break down last night - I was on the jubilee line to London Bridge (after picking up bits and pieces for the new flat in John Lewis) and just suddenly wanted to cry. It was the sort of wave of emotion that usually indicates AF is on her way (and usually happens when I read something sad in the paper - I'm a fright for finding something really sad in Metro when AF is due!). I lasted all the way back to Brighton (I was with my DH) and then the floods started. I kind of realised that the move to Brighton, for me, was all about the desire to move somewhere to raise a family and I really thought I'd be pregnant by now. The fact that I'm not makes me feel terrible, like a failure. Especially when it feels like friends and colleagues are getting pregnant at a rate of about one a second (OK, perhaps a slight exaggeration!). After a good long heart to heart (and lots of tears), I feel a lot more positive this morning. Still bloody hard at times this TTC business!

Sorry for the me me me rant, I just feel like I'm going mad sometimes!

Oh Caitni, you poor thing. Its funny how you can spend your time working up to something (i.e. moving house) and then once its happened I think all the emotions spill over in a big rush. It's hard to overcome milestones like having finally fulfilled your dream move but without the icing on the cake - I get to certain events like weddings etc and think "I honestly thought I'd be toting a bouncing baby at this wedding" or at the very least have a major bump to show off. Its easy to start to slide down the slippery slope of thinking you're a failure but please don't because you are not.

You will get there and we are all here to hand hold throughout the process (well, not the whole process you understand ).

Here's to the age old adage 'new house, new baby' - just think, you can use this time to make your new house exactly as you want it before your baby comes along to mess it all up (see SH's post re her sofa last week!)! You can also spend some time enjoying the easy life of Brighton and the fab nightlife. Make the most of it now!!

BTW I live about 30 miles west from you down the coast near a town called Chichester - and my DH will be soooooooooo envious of your brush with Bill Oddie! Have you read his 'Little Black Bird Book'? Bought it for my DH as a joke and he loved it!!

Thanks PnM - it helps to know I'm not the only one who sets imaginary milestones about when we'll get pregnant. I know I shouldn't, but sometimes the daydreams run away with me . Will be looking for the Bill Oddie book next time I'm in Waterstones - I already miss the birds who used to visit our feeders in north london. Nothing as glamourous as an egret mind, but still a lot more exciting than the seagulls in Brighton who seem to subsist on a diet of chips and kebabs!

Hope everyone has a great weekend. I'm very much looking forward to our meet-up early next week. Since we've no internet at home at the moment, I'll be checking in on Monday morning to see how everyone's doing. I'm hoping to find some shelves in one of the flea markets near the flat, as unpacking my boxes of books is the last big thing on my unpacking to do list...
xx

Thanks for your welcomes everyone

ScaryHairy Just chucked all the pregnancy tests i did out, now i know its all over after CP, tried not to add up the cost aaarrrgh! Its true, they've made a fortune out of me this month! Will try to be more patient this month & not test early.

Caitni, I'm the same re newspapers when AF is on the way. I think that you will get your baby now in your new place, I try and believe that it all happens in the best order, even though we might not see it that way!

Well yesterday to cheer us up DH and I went to look at a house we saw on rightmove(not go in, just look at the front and the area), although not ready to buy yet. We currently rent & sadly departed MILs house is on the market, when/if it sells we will have a good deposit but market is so bad there has been no interest.
Well we got outside this house & we were chatting about it, there was a man in a van who saw us & came over, he was the owner and had had his viewing cancelled, and offered to show us inside.
The place was just perfect, all newly done up etc. We loved it, but had to explain to the guy that we were waiting on cash so we couldn't make an offer. He said, why don't I rent it to you then, if you're renting anyway, then when you get your money maybe you'll buy it.
I wondering if this sounds like the ideal plan or is it too good to be true??! LOL

hello citybranch and welcome

MOB - how are you doing today? You've had such a lot to contend with over the last week. I hope you are having a lovely weekend in the sunshine.

Caitni - I am so to hear you were upset. It's sh*t isn't it, this TTC business. Hell, the Jubilee Line does that to me too . No seriously, for ages all my life choices seemed to be about when/if we have children, so I completely understand. Everyone has a view of the future they want and, in my case, that involved me starring as a yummy mummy, brace of cherubic children and living in a lovely house with a garden, back where I am from, going part time at work yadda yadda yadda. Hasn't happened. In the end, we did the opposite to you - did nothing pro-active about moving jobs, home and country to prepare for babies. We were going to wait for the BFP and then leap into action (I thought DH would do what I wanted if I was "carrying his child" ). But of course, we are exactly where we started TTC in Dec 2006. You have moved, but without what you wanted most. YET! It will happen for you, and you will be strolling along the sea front at Brighton with your DB in a stroller.

Oh Bucky - I am so sorry to hear about the fibroid. Please don't worry. Did you call the doctor as suggested to discuss what you can do. It is always the same - you come out your appointment and bingo you remember what you want to say. How are you feeling today? How are the dogs and poor Molly Dog's acne? Are you about on Tuesday evening for the Exmouth Needlers meet-up? Is DigitalG about do you think? Thinking of you and (((((((higs)))))))). Your tubes are completely clear though and that is brilliant. Keep humming the WIMBEWAIF theme-tune to feel better

picknmix - lol at you being dive bombed by a bat . Not much exotic wildlife here in central London (unless you count the zoo which is quite near me? ) although we do sometimes get woken up at 4am with the screams of foxes getting it on in the gardens . Bill Oddie actually lives up the road, next door to DH's best mate, so i've seen him walking around like a grumpy hippy.....nice line in beads, sandals and Nelson Mandela-esque shirts . No binoculars though.

Ei - he he, at you calling me Judith . I am not away this weekend although I do travel a LOT with work, DH's work and because lots of family and friends are abroad. Frankly, most of the time it's a pain in the neck. Hope you are having a lovely weekend.

We got a letter this morning from the hospital. Our appointment for first stage of ICSI is 30 July . That was a bit quicker than we thought, but that's good.... I think. I am scared stupid at all the drugs and surgery and "downregging". I might need you ladies to hold my hand through this [terrified emoticon]. Also, would you tell people/work you were going for IVF (scary, do you think they would be sympathetic?). I may need a few days off here and there and I probably won't be feeling the best after being pumped full of drugs, feeling like a pin-cushion. I don't want to tell work (don't want to tell anyone ), but on the other hand the credit crunch is biting and they're scrutenising performance. Will they be supportive if I am taking time off and then (potentially) b*ggering off on (paid) maternity leave for up to a year when they are looking for "economies"??

scary - good for you enjoying some wine. Must say, i did the same on Thursday night . CD2, so I though, what the hell! BAD headache on Friday

hello to everyone else on the thread. Sorry to anyone missed. Where will we meet on Tuesday? We can plan the next Summer Expedition to the South Coast.

GGx