The WIMBEWAIF and WIMBEWAINF 2WW club, new and existing members welcome.

[Bucky2008]

Ahhh, look how nice and clean and new this thread is .

And there is a big ScaryHairy birthday cake for us all to share. I am not being good till after Thursday afterall...

MrsH sounds like it is not all over for you then missus... are you still planning to test tomorrow with Ei ?

Bucky I am trying to remember what day I had imp bleed... I think it was about 10-11dpo and like yours it was more than just spotting but not enough to count as AF. I so hope this is your month hun. If it is then don't even give the alcohol and exercise a second thought, I had a work night out involving wine and cocktails and an afternoon in the pub with several beers during my BFP 2ww (was fed up being good all the time) and was also running twice a week. Fingers crossed xxxxx Oh and be warned if it does look like this is an imp bleed then you will probably not get a BFP for a few days - I had BFN on 13dpo and didn't get BFP until 15dpo. If bean imps late you have a wee bit longer to wait until BFP... oooh am getting excited, sorry !

x posts MrsH ! oooh all very promising for you - is there a link to your chart on the thread ? I love your scientific equation

Here's my chart.

I can't take credit for the Law of Pregnativity, it was Caitni who came up with that one!

Wooooo that looks like a very good chart to me

Well it does to me too (it's almost identical to my last pg chart), but the cramps and occasional little threads of red blood make me think otherwise...

Thanks for the congratulations Bucky, Caitni & JB

Caitni I'm so sorry that it doesn't look like good news your end. I'm not surprised you have been feeling battered. How have you been feeling today? Big higs to you. XXX

Bucky get on and test, woman, i can't stand the suspense Definitely don't worry about all the alcohol, excercise etc. As MrsH says, at this stage any potential bean would only just be getting implanted. You'd better go and get a test tomorrow! May i say, it's lovely to have you around again - just like old times!

MrsH Wow, sounds like an emotional rollercoaster of a day or so for you. Your chart is looking great, and the cramping can be a good symptom ( i had lots a few days ago). However, i know all too well how awful this being in "limbo" is. Hopefully if you test tomorrow (FMU just to be sure) then you will know either way for sure.

EI Hope you are still testing tomorrow as well! How have you been feeling today? Any good symptoms???

Loads and loads of positive vibes for all the testers tomorrow. i'm more excited than when i did my own test

Well, it's beginning to sink in that i am actually pregnant. I phoned the clinic who were delighted. I have a scan booked for 10th december. It seems ages away, but she said they don't like to do it any sooner incase they can't see things properly, then i'd have to wait a week and go back anyway. I'm still on knicker watch, and panic whenever i feel a slight "dampness". I've also done several more tests I keep worrying that it's such early days, and a lot can go wrong. However it struck me earlier that i am finally pregnant, this is what we have longed for, and, providing it all goes well, i am never, ever going to go through this again - so i need to enjoy every minute of it!

Sorry - i shouldn't go on about it - i don't mean to be insensitive. I just wish we could all be pg together.

Evening my lovely ladies,

Caitni it's lovely to hear you had a good weekend but I'm sorry that you think you're out for this month and that you're feeling so down about it. Big to you, I'm hanging on in there with you as am feeling somewhat the same.

RFN2 so pleased you came back to update us and that you have managed to start sorting things with your DH. Sounds like its been an absolute roller coaster for you but pleased the Dr has prescribed you something. Take care of yourself x

Bucky Bucky Bucky! Following on from MrsHs laws of pregnativity, how fab would it be if sods law played its hand this month, giving you a great last month of living 'old Bucky style' in preparation for 9 months of abstainance (sp?)?! Really really hope this is it for you, am hand holding in prep for tomorrow morning!

Your chart is looking soooo good MrsH! Its such a blimmin' struggle swaying from staying hopeful and veering towards feeling like it all might go wrong. Are you going to test tomorrow morning then?

And you Ei - are you testing tomorrow as well?! Crikey, its a big ol' testathon in the WIMBEWAI[N]F club tomorrow, eh?? Think I will look into PALS and complaining about my appt, luckily I have a very grounded DH who can talk me down from most stressful places but would like to make sure it doesn't happen to someone else in future.

Wish I could join in the testing! However I have no idea where I am at in my cycle as haven't been temping (lost a bit of faith in that as my chart always alludes to greater things than it ever turns out to be!). Am kinda waiting for af to show so I can get the HSG out of the way!!

I think I will try and regain my faith in the NHS once I've had these tests done and then call for a cancellation appt as MrsH suggested. Gotta get Christmas out of the way first I guess !

How are you feeling today MOB?? Am still for you!!

Mibbes and JB am at your hiccupy babies! Hope they're behaving themselves!? How are you both coping with big bumps now? Hope you're not getting too many niggles?

x-posts - good evening MrsH & mibbes

Apologies MOB, crossed posts!! Really lovely to hear its finally sinking in. I can only imagine the emotions you're going through at the moment but I hope you can begin to enjoy this time with your DH as you both deserve it - and you can go on about it as much as you like, we're all so chuffed for you, you could never be insensitive

x-posts PnM good evening to you too.

Sounds like a good idea to make a complaint about your appt - otherwise it may well happen to someone else. Bear in mind that if you go through PALS it will be dealt with informally, there is a different procedure for making a formal complaint. Let me know if you want any more details. Not surprised you are still feeling down. Will you have the hsg this next cycle?

MOB I agree with PnM - you could never be insensitive. I'm still completely thrilled for you and your DH. You must talk about it all as much as you like. It's very sensible of the clinic to wait to do the scan for a bit - IME scans which are too early result in more questions than answers and by waiting when you have yours you will see everything (two heartbeats, the works )

Go on PnM, you might as well join in with the en masse peeing tomorrow!

Thank you both

MrsH stop with the twin talk

Yes, go on, PnM join in with the testathon! Sounds like a sponsored event, doesn't it? Just think - we'd raise loads of money if people paid us to POAS

Aw how I have missed you all. I can see us all now, checking in every few minutes to see the results .

I am in a crappy training course all day though so won't be near my computer. I will get a test on the way to work and will try and do it before we start so I can log on quickly...

Thank you all for making me feel a little better.... Good luck to my fellow testers may be a have at least a hat trick this month [higs].

that should have been 'may we have a hat trick...'. Ooh typos Is that a symptom?

Typos are definitely a symptom Bucky You best get back on here before you go into your course tomorrow morning!!

Same goes for the rest of you if you're testing tomorrow

I think I might have a sympathy POAS just to feel part of the gang, I'm sure I can find an eBay cheapie around here somewhere.... Oh, and at a sponsored POASathon, I reckon we could raise a fortune!!!

I will indeed be having the HSG on my next cycle MOB, have to have it on CD8 so have to ring them on CD1 and hope that CD8 doesn't fall on a day when I can't get away from work! Although, as I said before, my personnel manager is more than understanding (he even knew and used the word 'period' and that the HSG took place on the 8th day of your cycle !) so should be able to sort something out.

hi ladies
wowee its all go on here with the poas-athon (with me included)
bucky how excellent would it be if you got a BFP now good luck testing tomorrow and dont forget to let us know how you get on
mrsH are you testing tomorrow?? i caved and tested tonight and i think there was the faintest of faint lines there and i could see it after about 2 mins so who knows i have another test left which i will use tomorrow morning with FMU if AF doesnt arrive in the night good luck
hello to everyone else
xx ei xx

Just checking in to see if anyone is reporting a BFP.

I got a BFN this morning, and my temp is on the way down. I was rather hoping I wouldn't need to buy any more pre-conception vitamins (one would think that 18 months was enough), do that nasty sounding HSG or keep on trying, but never mind. Oh, and we won't be allowed to try this month because of the HSG .

Lots of luck Ei and Bucky and anyone else peeing this morning! Still hoping for a hat-trick.

Awww MrsH, boo to a bfn . And I had such a good feeling for you this month. Have you been told not to ttc before the hsg then? Only ask because they told me to just keep trying, as the hsg is performed 8 days after the first day of your period to ensure there's no pregnancy that might get 'flushed' away. I may have misunderstood though! It'll be good to have an hsg partner though. Big higs xx

Any other testers yet?? Ei you dark horse, am excited for you!

Oh, and I did join in the testing this morning and naturally it was a bfn... Took me ages to find a test though, sign of how things have changed, tests used to have pride of place at front of top bedside drawer, now they're stuffed to the back of the bottom drawer.

morning ladies
mrsH sorry about your BFN but all is not yet lost as you know its not over til the red witch arrives
i tested this morning again and the ghost-line was there again so im gonna leave off testing until thur/fri if af hasnt arrived by then
good luck bucky
xx ei xx

EI How frustrating, having that ghost line. You are very wise to hold off testing again for a few days. I'm just wondering though, as a "line is a line" and all that - is it worth getting in touch with the consultant to discuss whether you should start the necessary medication now, just in case?? Just a thought - feel free to tell me to mind my own business!

MrsH Can't believe it was a BFN. Look after yourself today. Hopefully you can get the hsg done this cycle and get that tube checked. Am gutted for you, hope you are ok as you can be at this point. Life's just not fair, is it?

PnM for you too. Getting a BFN is never nice. As with MrsH - roll on that hsg. In which case i hope you get your period as soon as possible, so you can get on and book it. Hope you are ok as well.

BUCKY!!!!!!! Any news???? You'd better get to a pc before the training starts

Ei very frustrating getting a ghost line, I know that a line is a line but given your recent history I can understand why you are not getting excited. Very wise waiting for a few days.

MrsH so it was BFN, your chart looked so good. Temping can be very frustrating when it leads you on like that

PnM sorry you got BFN too but don't give up, if you don't know where you are in your cycle then maybe too early...?

Bucky did you get a chance to test ?

How frustrating Ei. I hope you get a good strong line in a couple of days.

Bucky any news?

PnM the doctor said not to try and muttered something about radiation, but he seemed a bit surprised to have been asked. TBH it is not something I have heard before and lots of doctors seem to advise people to really go for it after the test. I do not want to stop trying so I suspect my DH and I may well be following your doctor's advice on this score - especially as I will schedule it for well before ovulation!

I had to meet someone at bleedin 8am so didn't get to Boots! I am late for my course now and generally rushing around like a lunatic. Still no sign of AF though.... I promise...I will buy one later.

Sorry MrsH, but it could be too early you did say she was due today...

See you later...

No, am deffo out, Bucky. TEW just reared her ugly head.
Am really quite pissed off this time.

I'm worried about the HSG and am almost hoping that it will show my left tube as blocked. At least that way we can stop messing around and go straight for IVF...

Hi ladies

Firstly, thanks to all for your kind messages after Sunday, when I was feeling very blue...I don't know what I'd do without you all!

MrsH I'm so sorry AF arrived and to you. Life can be so unfair. Take care of yourself. And with the HSG definitely follow PnM's doctor's advice. My sister-in-law had an HSG after two years of fruitless ttc (not even a miscarriage) and conceived that cycle. My niece, now 17 months, is definitely none the worse for any radiation or whatever your doc was muttering about. In fact, I thought that was why they scheduled HSGs for the early part of the cycle so that you can continue to ttc. She told me that her consultant said that the dye can smooth out tiny imperfections that can hinder things, which was why anecdotal evidence points to women being more fertile after one...

Bucky I'm drumming my fingers here for some testing news from you! I'm [cautiously] excited on your behalf - let's hope the law of pregnativity works!!

Ei how frustrating for you with a ghost line, but I'm also getting [cautiously] excited for you!! I agree with MOB though, as a line's a line so is it worth ringing your consultant's office for advice? I'm going to be keeping my fingers and toes crossed that you get a nice strong BFP soon and your consultant does every thing he can to make this bean stick xxx

MOB you must never feel bad/awkward about posting about your pregnancy (has it fully sunk in yet?? ). You've been such a pillar of support to each and everyone of us on this thread, and we're all sooooooo happy for you that if you want to do stream of consciousness posts about every twinge of your pregnancy then we're here for you. I still just grin whenever I think about your BFP . I hope the days fly til 10 December!!

PnM sorry to hear you're feeling a bit down too, this ttc thing is such a pain...why can't our bodies just work?? But I think the HSG is a great next step (because of my sister-in-law) and I'd actually like one myself to see what's going on with my tubes . Don't usually say this, but hope that AF shows soon so you can get the HSG out of the way!

RFN2 I'm glad to hear that things are working out for you and that you're getting the help you need from the GP. Take care of yourself

JB thanks for your kind words. I must admit that hearing that Mibbes had spotting and then got a BFP is very heartening!

Mibbes hope you're taking care of yourself! After what JB said, I just wanted to ask whether you had regular spotting before your AF? Feel free not to answer if TMI, but I'm thinking I need to talk to my GP or a gyn about it as it's starting to really get to me having a day or two (or three) of spotting each month...

I'm feeling better than I was on Sunday, I suppose the only "advantage" of spotting is that i get my sadness at AF coming out of the way early...I was so so tempted to join the POASathon that went on here today but I'm pretty convinced this month I'm out (so didn't pee on a single stick this month - getting a BFN may have tipped me over the edge!). Since I'm now 12 dpo, I'm expecting AF to arrive tonight/first thing tomorrow. Annoyingly, my spotting entirely stopped yesterday morning (which means there is still a teeny tiny flicker of hope alive in me - tragic!!). On the good news front, I've managed to track down canned pumpkin and shall have the perfect excuse to go to John Lewis Oxford Street after work this evening to buy it from Waitrose (bet the christmas lights on Oxford make me feel all festive ). My sister is also married to a yank, so they're all coming over to ours for a Thanksgiving meal this Saturday (and my mum's over from Ireland too). Making pumpkin pie with fresh pumpkin takes forever, so I'm so glad that the canned pumpkin will save me time (and still taste just as nice ).