***Lets support eachother again- you know who you are ***

[mummy2olivia]

charliesmum, nandos, beakas, sugr, cornflower, poppy, becky and everyone else who miscarried in may/june 2008....

We have all been very brave together and supported eachother. For those of us that are ready, it may be time to support eachother again as we return to TTC. Lets hold hands, remember our loss and give a nod to the future as we endeavour to procreate and............

SHAG!!

As promised, a thread to stay in touch. Will also see you on the MC avengers thread.

Boo everyone! You're all very quiet at the moment

Morning Becky How are you feeling?

I'm ok! Hungry all the time. Can't stand the smell of DH when he gets ready in the morning. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck. He is quite upset! It must be male deodorant or something. I was telling the DSs today that I don't like the smell of 'clean daddies' and they thought that was very funny. Also very tired! But generally quite well considering! How are you mbm? How are you Poppy - is your voice / throat better yet? Nandos what are you up to?

DH is going to see 'Watchmen' by himself tonight. I'm staying home to babysit and poor DH can't find anyone else to go with him. He so badly wants to see that film. It is really geeky though so I'm not too bothered about being left at home!

Ah bless dh for going on his own Becky He is a brave boy! Hope he brings you some pic'n'mix or something else nice back!

That's great that your smell is so sensitive, but poor dh! Hope your boys don't develop a phobia of being clean

I'm fine thanks, but confused... I really don't know what's going on this cycle, it's been so messed up by what happened last month. It's making me so frustrated as I think we may have missed the window of opportunity. I was really hoping that I would get pg this month, as ds was conceived 2 weeks after a CP, and all went well. Have somehow got it in my mind that I need to have a CP before another successful pregnancy, and so this month fits the bill. It's silly isn't it
DH has been so tired in the evenings and so hasn't been up to playing 'chess' and I haven't made an issue of it coz I thought I wasn't yet ov'ing - now I think I have and we missed it . Played chess on tuesday, but unless those swimmers have a pretty long life then I don't think I'm in with a chance.

Poppy and Nandos hope you're having lovely weekends whatever you're doing!

Is anyone doing anything nice for mothers day? Think dh has forgotten and so don't know whether to mention it to him or not as don't want to make him feel bad... He's planning on playing golf tomorrow so no lovely day out for me!

Hi mbm it is not silly at all. DS2 was conceived the second month after I had an MC so I was convinced last summer the same would happen again! I think it is perfectly natural to see hope in patterns.

I'm glad my nose is only sensitive to strange smells (ones I can avoid) as opposed to cooking smells. Last time the smell of onions or sausages cooking made me run from the room. The DSs would never eat cooked food if that happened again!

You never know about this month. We've had months when we've been at it every other night and nada. It only takes one go!

I'm sorry your DH is so busy and tired

DS1 is helping me with the cleaning today as the PILs are due for lunch. He's mopping the floor for 20p for his piggy bank.

hi everyone..
MBM, when is your AF due? lets hope it doesnt arrive..

Becky, its good that you are starting to have preg symptoms to reassure yourself that you r pregnant so sweet of your DS1 i wonder if my boy would grow up to be as sweet like yours

poppy, r u feeling better now? hope your ok..

am just finished with ranting over at the antenatal post re ladies who have bumps n bbs and that i have none instead of glowing n growing, i feel like im a shrunk raisin
lets hope the glowing n growing season comes soon for the two of us u and me becky

Hi everyone

Starting to feel a bit grim today and lonely as it is raining and windy and I need a hug! Starting to feel a bit sick I'm only 5 weeks 5 days so it'll get worse no doubt before it gets better. I didn't have any MS with DS1, a bit with the missed MC I had after DS1 and a bit more with DS2 and felt pretty sick with my last MC. So perhaps each one is getting that little bit worse! I am the worst person ever when it comes to sickness. I fall apart...so I hope I'm going to be ok. Feel soooo tired as well. Can't keep up with my two DSs. I think mbm and Nandos you are both so brave coping with the sickness you both have experienced with pregnancy. I need some courage from you

Nandos I grew very slowly with DS1 until about 25 weeks and then woooosh I turned into a bowling ball!

No time to post more, but just wanted to send you a big ((((((((((hug)))))))))) Becky - you make sure dh looks after you, and just rest and take thing easy...

Love to all xxx

Thanks mbm Feel sick this morning. It is like being sea sick. I can't rest though until DH gets back from work and by then the DSs go to bed anyway! I just need strength to get through this part. At least focusing on how crap I feel stops me worrying that it'll all go wrong! There's a silver lining.

Just a quick post to say hello to you all

Am at home today cos boiler is broke and its fReEzInG!!!!

xx

Hi Ladies

Sorry I haven't been on but have been ill with a chest infection. It gradually got worse last week and I ended up having to go to the dr's to get antibiotics as it felt like someone was sitting on my chest. Feeling a lot better now but still a bit hoarse.

We have been demented with the squirrels in the loft and last week dh found the bit of the roof the had chewed to get in and put up metal grating to keep them out but they are so fierce and bold that when he was up the ladder putting it on one of them was running down the roof trying to attack him not so cute and cuddly! It went on for days being woken in middle of night to rapping sound of it trying to get in. We had a cage in the loft to trap them but they managed to tip it over, scoff all the food and run away . Eventually dh's brother appeared with an air gun and dh went out one night seen squirrel, pointed gun, squirrel ran off and so far hasn't been back, so hopefully that will be the end of it as the last thing we want to do is harm them we just want rid of them.

Also meant to say my reiki session last week was great. Lady was lovely and I ended up being there for hours as she is also a medium and she began talking to my gran who passed away 7 years ago. The stuff she said was amazing and things and names she could never have guessed in a million years. She also said she say me having another pg and the only thing that has been preventing it happen is stress. She done reiki healing and said she was drawn to clear my fallopian tubes and asked if I had ever had any probs there (not that I know). It definately gave me a boost and although I think this month will also be out due to me being ill and dh being ill with a bad cold hopefully sometime in the future things will look up

Oh what a ramble that was

becky hope your ms eases soon it is so horrid. I had it for 5 months with ds. Not good at all.

nandos you will blossom soon and your feet will be unseen for months

mbm how are you?

m2o good to hear from you hope you are well.

I am off to dr's tomorrow to have my ear syringed and more blood tests oh the joys!

Oh Poppy you poor thing I'm glad you are feeling a lot better, but it does seem that you've been under the weather for a while now - you must be feeling fed up.
Can easily relate to your over the squirrels - it's awful being woken up by their loud noises. We had what I think was rats in the attic and dh went to get some poison for them (we were desperate!) but rather than tying these massive blocks of industrial rat poison down he just chucked them up there and for the next few nights not only were we woken by the bloody rats but also by them chucking these blocks around I was not happy with dh! Also, it didn't seem to work They must be huge rats
Your reiki lady sounds wonderful, and that's great that she's given you some hope for the future. Sometimes that can work wonders.

M2O HELLO!!!!!!!!! Are you coming back to join us or was that just a quick peep in and dash out again? We miss you on here! Hope your boiler has been mended? It's certainly not the weather to have that happen...

Nandos Whatever the size of your bump you will always feel like it's not right - I was MASSIVE with ds and people constantly commented on it - at 6 months they were describing me as ready to pop If you have a small bump, you'll always want a bigger one, and if you have a big one you'll be feeling like it's too big. You just can't win! The only thing that really is important is that your baby, and you of course, are healthy and happy. Bump size does not matter... I bet when you're around 39 weeks you'll be looking back wistfully and wishing it was smaller so you could actually move around
Haven't got a clue when my AF is due, I think it's sometime next week. I hate not knowing what's going on... Am really confused as I'm pretty sure I ov'd last week sometime, but then have had EWCM again today Must just be messed up after last month...

Becky Am sorry and glad at the same time that you're feeling crap! You're right - concentrating on getting through it will help you stop thinking about things going pear shaped... Did I ask you already if you can have an early scan? If so, when will it be? You should be able to see the heartbeat pretty soon Ooohhh it's so exciting!

Right, must go and empty the dishwasher now... Yuk.
Can't wait for AF to start so we can get cracking again next month!
Have a good day all!
xxx

Hello everyone!

mbm I love you long posts!

m2o hello!!!!

Poppy I can't imagine having squirrels. The only footsteps I hear at night above my head are DS2 pottering about in his bedroom (when he should be asleep).

Nandos please tell me feeling like shit will be worth it! How do you feel now? Has your sickness completely gone now?

Six weeks today! Yeah! I haven't found out about an early scan yet. I have my drs appointment on Tuesday so will ask then. To be honest I'm still living on Planet Denial despite the obvious physical symptoms which are nothing compared to what other people get I know but I am a total winger when it comes to feeling sick. Bleugh. Bleugh. I was watching Mistresses last night and I couldn't watch when they got a wine bottle out! I wanted to die under the duvet (I was wallowing on the settee with duvet and cup of tea).

I really, really, really, really hope Poppy, mbm and m2o you can all join me and Nandos in the pregnancy club soon.

M2O! so long havent heard from you! how r u doing?
poppy, good to hear you feeling better..take a lot of rest till you are back in good health. naughty squirrels btw..i dont know what i'll do if it was me in that house. i might give them nuts instead! i think dh would too lol he loves to feed squirrels almonds in the park..
MBM, quite true what you said..ppl with big bumps will want it slightly smaller and ppl with small bumps want the opposite. i just feel tired all the time and wish my bump is slightly bigger so ppl can give me a seat in the train when i feel faintish..how sad is that?
becky, im still not sure abt going through hell horrible morning sickness in pregnancy cos' i havent got a baby in my arms yet but im sure it will be worth it. i've stopped complaining abt my ms but since you asked, im still throwing up at 22wks now crap isnt it?
btw one of my cousin just gave birth to a baby boy yesterday and we saw her baby..sooo sooo soo cute! forgive me for saying these but i've seen some ugly newborns but hers is really one cute baby her younger sis is also due next mth so cant wait to see hers as well..its gonna be a girl..

Hello everyone! How are you all doing? I'm sitting here watching TV rather than working while DS2 has his sleep. I'm not feeling too bad at the moment, the nausea comes and goes: worst in the morning and at tea time. I'm just count myself lucky so far at least the sickness isn't worse than it is, just on and off nausea with the odd 'errr I might be sick' feeling. Nandos I think you are amazing to cope so stoically with your sickness and still at 22 weeks. I'm only 6 weeks and 2 days today (not that I am counting) and I keep remembering the last time. I felt just as sick last time (ironically I didn't have much sickness with either DS1 or DS2). I keep having dreams about bleeding and losing the baby. I'm just trying to hold tight until I get to hear a heartbeat.

DH is away in Leeds overnight tonight so I hope I have enough energy to get everyone to bed tonight and feed myself. So far I've been relying on DH to take over at about 6pm.

Poppy I hope your ears are better and you are feeling better.

Have a good weekend everyone xx

crashes in
hello m2o been thinking about you recently how's things?

Oh becky sorry to hear you are still feeling sicky it really is vile feeling naseaus all the time - but it will be worth it. Hope your horrible dreams stop soon.

nandos 22 weeks that seems to have flown in (well to the "virtual" observers) more than half way there!
ps - you are right - not all newborns are gorgeous!

mbm hope you are well.

My ear feels great after the syringing on wed morn. It is amazing to hear clearly again and the horrible ringing noise has gone as well thank goodness.

Have had a bit of a strange week. Last weekend ds began doing a funny sort of facial tic/grimace on and off and by sun night it was happening a lot. I was asking him to stop, he was getting upset and then doing it more. It went on all week and on wed night it was parents night at his school and even his teacher mentioned she seen him doing it at the theatre but when asked he said he was ok. That night he was up screaming in pain with his ear. Thur kept him off school nad went to docs for a check up but the tic seemed to vainsh overnight. Dr said it may have been sore ear affecting muscles in face and being young and also having a language prob he may not have been able to verbalise this. I felt awful for thinking it was maybe a tic/some sort of habit when he was prob in pain. Oh the worry never stops.

Tonight I have just come back from a presentation at my old high school as they are knocking it down in the summer having built a new one and this was a night for old pupils to come along and have a last tour round grin] OMG can't believe how much it has changed and also how many parts are still the same and I left nearly 19 yrs ago Also seen some blasts from the past! V interesting night.

ps squirrels seem to be in hiding at the mo no chewing sounds keeping me awake at night. Just dh's snoring

Good morning! The dreams are strange: last night DH had an affair in my sleep and I just said to him 'oh well, whatever!'

I don't feel as sicky as many people do so I think I am lucky really. Eating marmalade on toast at the moment. I'm still convinced it is all going to go wrong at about 11 weeks again... oh if only I had a time machine!

The worry never stops - that is so true Poppy. I remember once when DS1 was about 12 months he wouldn't eat his tea and I was getting cross with him and he managed a few mouthfulls and then threw up everywhere and I felt so bad for not realising he wasn't feeling well.

It is strange going back to school, isn't it? I had a school reunion in September and it was so strange seeing all the very familiar faces but everyone looking 20 years older. No more drop perms, hoop earrings, and shoulder pads (showing my age here!).

DH is away in Leeds last night and today but back by lunchtime. I'm looking forward to a sleep as soon as he gets back!

Am off to bed now, but just wanted to say hi to you all and see how you were doing?

Becky How are you feeling?

Love to all, and hope you're okay. Have my dad here at mo so v limited on computer time!
xxx

Hello all! I'm feeling ok, too ok in fact, so I'm worried that feeling better is not a good sign I have a stinky cold at the moment thanks to DS1. I'm seven weeks today.

Wow becky 7 weeks that has whizzed by. How is your cold? Hope you are feeling a bit better. Do you have a date for an early scan or will you need to wait until 12 weeks?

I have been out all morning at my parents house waiting for exam papers to be delivered and signed for my mum as she is a marker. Was out last night on a Challenging your condition course for my arthritis which last for 6 weeks. Think it will be quite interesting but it is hard having to discuss yourself and how your illness impacts your life in front of strangers. Still we were all in the same boat so it was ok. Tonight my girlguides are hosting an Easter party for the local brownies so it will be another busy evening and I will need to take ds with me as dh has his exam tonight for his amateur radio licence. All go. Off to hang out some more washing now.

Take care

ps Ds came home from school the other day and said they had to draw a picture and write about something they were thankful for. Ds said he thanked God for the sky and his Wii. When I asked him what colour did he draw the sky and did he draw clouds or anything he said "no mummy, I drew Sky tv, that's what I was thankful for" what can you say to that.

LOL Poppy at your ds Bless him!

Becky try not to worry re feeling a bit better. It's good that you're not feeling so grotty, and didn't you say you didn't feel too bad when pg with the ds's? Could be that it's a pregnancy just like those were.
Have you got a scan booked?

Poppy that sounds interesting re the course, what exactly does it involve? My mum's arthritis is now so bad that she's confined to a wheelchair most of the time You are brave to be talking about it in front of people you don't know.
Have a lovely party tonight won't you! Any eastery plans you can share? I'm taking 21 4, 5, and 6 year olds tomorrow and Friday at school, and am thinking up easter stuff to do...

Nandos How are you doing? Hope all is well with you and your bump

My AF is due tomorrow (I think), but then am going to hold off trying for the next two months as it's dad's 60th at the end of May and mum has booked a big night out (top secret!!!) which I absolutely do not want to miss! The following month I'm going to see Take That Hooray!!!! I know it sounds v sad stopping ttc for Take That but I've decided to try to be more relaxed about the whole thing, and I also keep telling myself that we are in no rush... Also, I tried to go to see them in 2006 when just pg with ds, but to cut a long story very short I wasn't able to. I am determined to get there this year! Tbh I do feel a bit panicked about not trying... I'll probably cave in after dad's b'day, and then knowing my luck won't be able to go to TT as I'll be throwing up!

hello everyone!
been packed with loads of work that i almost forgot abt MN discussions!
Poppy, so sweet of your ds how old is he? Am not too sure abt arthritis but im sure its painful to live with is there any cure for it or can medicine just reduce the pain?
Becky 7 weeks hope you are doing fine..dont worry abt MS cos' it sucks big time..
MBM if you think its better to stay off ttc first, then do it cos' it definitely makes you n dh relax too. hopefully it will happen soon when the time is right..

am feeling ok atm and yeah after much complaining last week abt my bump not showing, now it is and baby tends to kick suddenly and randomly to give me a shock at times.now only thing that needs to grow now is my bbs lol
also dh coming for a visit tmr! yayyy cant wait to give him a hug
got to go now and sleep soon..a bit late over here..
goodnite all

Hello all, I am about dead on my feet with DS1's cold. Man flu more like! DH is rushing home to take over but he says he's coming down with it too. Oh dear. We are a sorry household. DS1 is still not better. DS2 is fine!

My boobies are growing. I'm quite happy with them at the moment as they are normally fairly average.

I want a duvet!!!!!

Poppy I laughed so much at your DS's sky comment. How funny!

mbm perhaps you are destined not to see Take That! If you were to get preggers then you'd have to call your second child, if it is a boy, Gary, Mark, or whatever the other ones are called I forgot!

Right, off to blow my nose, again.

LOL re Gary!

Hope you feel better soon Becky, and woohoo for those boobies!!! Bet DH is happy!