***Lets support eachother again- you know who you are ***

[mummy2olivia]

charliesmum, nandos, beakas, sugr, cornflower, poppy, becky and everyone else who miscarried in may/june 2008....

We have all been very brave together and supported eachother. For those of us that are ready, it may be time to support eachother again as we return to TTC. Lets hold hands, remember our loss and give a nod to the future as we endeavour to procreate and............

SHAG!!

As promised, a thread to stay in touch. Will also see you on the MC avengers thread.

hi everyone,
sorry for not posting
have been ill for a week now just starting to recover from cough and flu, although fever is gone now

hope u MBM,Becky, Poppy and M2O are ok

all the coughing made me kind of pity the child inside me during my worst day, i took the meds at 2am and baby keep moving around so much that i end up puking everything out again at 3am..maybe he figues med is too yucky to be absorbed while hes sleeping

Becky 15 weeks! thats so fast that i thought just a mth ago u fell pregnant
am now in the 30th week of pregnancy but tummy is still like im just 4mths pregnant ..hmm is that good or bad??
i feel like with the earlier MS which last for mths and now down with fever n cough, i might be having a small frail baby

anywayz am off the take a bit of rest for now...hope to post more soon..

take care ..

Hi girls

How are you all? Sorry not been on for so long, think it is a record for me actually Got back Sunday night and ds been poorly since, and been back at work, so now just grabbing a min while supper's cooking!

Becky 15 weeks My goodness me that's zoomed by! Did you manage to get the IO dress? What's it like? Tis very exciting that you're getting maternity stuff!

Nandos Poor you being ill It's horrible if you're ill when you're pg. Hope you're feeling better? Please don't worry re your bump, one of my friends got to full term and only looked about 4 months - I think it was her posture. She was pg at the same time as me with ds and I remember standing there trying different positions in the mirror (ie shoulders hunched/unhunched, sticking bum out/in etc) and I managed to make my bump look like hers. She had the same size bump with her second pregnancy and managed to pop out 7 pounders both times!

Poppy and m2o how are you both? I forgot to go back a page to look at your last posts before I started writing this so can't remember much of what you wrote, sorry! I remember thinking that O's room sounds gorgeous though m2o when I read it quickly over the w/end!

Hope you're all okay and had good bank holiday weekends? It wasn't a BH here, but we get one next Monday instead so am v looking forward to that!

Hello everyone! I've just got back from three days in mid-Wales by the sea and it was sooooo hot. I am burnt. I swam in the sea today it was amazing. I even persuaded DS1 to get in the sea too - he loved the big waves. I don't want to go back to real life tomorrow, school, work, cleaning the house, etc. BORING!!!! I hope you have all had a good time in the sun. It has been an amazingly hot weekend, at least in Wales it was

Hi all

becky your Wales trip sounds very good imagine being in the sea in May!!!!

It has been hot hot hot here in sunny Scotland for a change and haven't been online for days as we have all been enjoying the sun. Paddling pool has had it's first airing of the year - lets hope it's not the last and I was even forced to put fake tan on my pasty body

Had a bit of a rocky week as last mon was a year to the day of the last mc and obviously not managed to get pg since then and have endured a million blood tests etc etc. All that would have been bad enough but my aunt appeared last week and told us that my crazy cousin who accidentally got pg (19 no job, lives with boyfriends gran etc) is now 22 weeks and found out she is having a boy. I smiled at the time but inside I was irrationally angry. DH thinks I am mad because as he says her life is a car crash and has nothing to do with us but it is still hard. Also dh getting a bit sick of sex on demand and feels "used". Anyhow we cleared things up and he admitted he feels very down as it was anniv of mc and he also feels bad as he hasn't had a lot of work and that is really been bad for his self esteem. Agreed that we both want to keep on trying and perhaps we need to relax a bit as all the ftc is v hard. On the plus side am now cd 24 and pmt symptoms not really appeared yet. Just know I am not pg but hoping my chaotic cycle is normalising again which will prob help matters. Also going for reiki tomorrow so that will be good. Sorry for all the rambling

nados and mbm amd M2o hope you are all well.

xxx

Hi all

becky your Wales trip sounds very good imagine being in the sea in May!!!!

It has been hot hot hot here in sunny Scotland for a change and haven't been online for days as we have all been enjoying the sun. Paddling pool has had it's first airing of the year - lets hope it's not the last and I was even forced to put fake tan on my pasty body

Had a bit of a rocky week as last mon was a year to the day of the last mc and obviously not managed to get pg since then and have endured a million blood tests etc etc. All that would have been bad enough but my aunt appeared last week and told us that my crazy cousin who accidentally got pg (19 no job, lives with boyfriends gran etc) is now 22 weeks and found out she is having a boy. I smiled at the time but inside I was irrationally angry. DH thinks I am mad because as he says her life is a car crash and has nothing to do with us but it is still hard. Also dh getting a bit sick of sex on demand and feels "used". Anyhow we cleared things up and he admitted he feels very down as it was anniv of mc and he also feels bad as he hasn't had a lot of work and that is really been bad for his self esteem. Agreed that we both want to keep on trying and perhaps we need to relax a bit as all the ftc is v hard. On the plus side am now cd 24 and pmt symptoms not really appeared yet. Just know I am not pg but hoping my chaotic cycle is normalising again which will prob help matters. Also going for reiki tomorrow so that will be good. Sorry for all the rambling

nandos and mbm amd M2o hope you are all well.

xxx

aggghhhh

sorry for doublew post

message vanished into ether and when I put in password again and pressed send somehow 2 messages appeared!!!

Just sums up my day!

Hello!

Becky sounds like you had a fab time! Has all the sickness gone now?

Poppy Hasn't it been lovely weather! Glad to hear you've had it up with you too I can completely relate to the year on thing - I really struggled too. People kept randomly asking if I wanted to do something on that particular date, and I knew it rang a bell - when I sat down to figure out what it was it hit me like a ton of bricks. It still hurts doesn't it
You poor thing re your cousin. It's not irrational at all. I think it's entirely normal for you to be angry.
It's tough ttc and failing each month - I've only had 4 months of that, but to have a year must be horrible. Maybe relaxing is the answer, but if you find a way to do that be sure to let me know your secret won't you

AF started for me on Friday, so off we go again. At least I have Take That to look forward to at the end of this month I can't wait!

Nandos How are you feeling? Any better?

m2o Hello lovely How are you doing? Still managing to keep away from MN then - I admire your willpower!

It's been a Bank Holiday here today, and we had lovely things planned, but DH has been poorly and so we stayed home I couldn't even sunbathe as we had a gardener start work on a path today and it didn't feel right that I should be sat there sunning myself while he was slogging his guts out. I managed to have lunch outside though, just hid my chair round the corner and I don't think he saw me

Hello everyone!

Poppy big hugs to you. I can't believe it is a year since we were all feeling 'sad and miserable' over in the MC threads and decided to help each other over here and keep each other positive. Those initial weeks were tough, weren't they? I think I've blanked a lot of it out as it is just too painful to remember. It is so hard for you being a year ttcing but try to focus on the fact that something positive has come out of all this: we've all become friends and are still supporting each other and will continue to do so until and beyond our babies come. I couldn't have got through the last year with my sanity intact without you guys. I didn't think I'd get pregnant ever again, every month rolled by, and I then just like that I did so I am sure that it will happen to you too, and mbm and m2o. I really believe that. It'll take you completely by surprise one month, as it did me. Just keep positive, try to enjoy the moment until then, and keep hoping it will happen. It's happened before so it'll happen again.

I know what you mean about the chess on demand though Poppy it is hard. My DH was really feeling that too and at times we just gave up and ended up snapping at each other instead of having nice, relaxing chess matches and all I'd think was 'we've missed the chance now' and feel grumpy.

mbm sorry your DH is poorly hope he is better now and sorry your AF has arrived but lucky you going to see Take That! I can't remember which one but one of them once went out with a girl the year below me at school before he was famous. It wasn't Robbie I know that. I wish I could come too

The sickness has almost gone now, yeah! I am struggling in this heat though and only 16 weeks so hardly hippo standards yet!

Better go get ready to take everyone to school now. Take care all and keep smiling in the sunshine. xxxx.

Ah Becky You are so lovely and have such a wonderful way of putting things Had just read your post and some colleagues came in and wanted to see a pic of ds, so I showed them and they started saying how precious children are and how they are the best thing in your life. Am sat here struggling not to cry
Right must pull myself together and get back to work...

Really, lots of love to you all - can´t believe it has been a year since we all met. Like Becky said I couldn´t have got through this last year without you all. Although we´ve all had a tough time of it we are so lucky in other ways...

Enjoy the sunshine xxx

PS Ooh ooh ooh re Take That! I love tenuous links to celebrities You are so going to have to remember which one it was so I can impress my girly friends

Hellooooooooo??

Anyone there???????

I'm here

Hello!!! How are you doing?

It's been very quiet on here recently, think we need to liven things up a little

I'm fine! Not much happening. It's gone cold again and I even put the heating on yesterday. DH has gone to work today so am feeling a bit abandoned as it is a Sunday. We're going to descend on the in-laws for lunch - I need to do the cleaning first

What are you up to? Have you made any delicious crumbles recently??

Morning!

Your poor dh having to work on Sunday! And poor you! Hope you have a nice time at the in-laws - do the ds's have lots of fun there?

Haven't made a crumble for...oohh... at least three days DH has announced that he is 'crumbled out', and just when I've perfected my topping too! He has banned me from making crumbles for the foreseeable future, but I don't mind too much as my jeans have been getting tighter by the day

At the mo I'm standing by the washing machine willing it to go lightning speed - me and ds are meeting dh at the golf club for lunch after his round (he was up at 6 this morning ) and I have nothing to wear! Am going to crank up the heating and hope that my trousers dry in time, argh!!! Might be going out wet... Then this arvo we're off to friends who had a prem baby about a month ago. It'll be the first time we're seeing him, bet he'll be tiny!

How's everyone else? Poppy you okay? Nandos how are you feeling? m2o Hope you're okay too...

By the way, I've made an appointment (at last ) to go and see that mc specialist I found out about. It's on the 16th July, so am looking forward to hear what he's got to say. Think there's deffo something going on as i think last month was an anovulatory one. Have stocked up on OPK's for this month in an attempt to find out when/if am ov'ing!

Have a lovely Sunday all! We only have 34 messages left on this thread before we must move Who's going to come up with some fab name for the next one? Wonder if that'll take a year to get through too

mbm I can just picture you standing by the washing machine willing it to hurry up!!

I can't imagine being 'crumbled out'. But then again I am 'Easter Egged' out as we still have two Easter Eggs and I am sick of the sight of them!

The DSs do like going to the parents-in-laws and I like it to because they entertain them and I can have a bit of a rest

Good that you're got an appointment with an MC specialist - I hope they will be able to help. Good luck this month though you never know. Each month is a new month.

Have a good lunch with your DH and DS and visit to your friends and their baby.

Hope Nandos (you must be coming up close to due date soon!), Poppy, and m2o are doing ok. I hope it isn't as wet and miserable where you all are as it is here.

Oooh tell you what Becky how about we do a swap? You can have all the crumble that I had planned and I'll gladly eat your Easter eggs

Just a quicky as had lovely news at lunch - our friends that we met have just been through their first round of IVF having tried for 2 and a half years. They're now 8 weeks pregnant! I am so happy for them A little envious of course, but so thrilled! They're coming to dinner in a few weeks, and so I can't wait to talk babies!

Hope you're having a lovely time at your in-laws Becky!

Going to put ds down for his nap now...

ps trouser update - went out with wet legs and waist Not only that but the coat I washed yesterday and presumed would be dry by now was also damp inside when I put it on... If I come down with a cold in the next week or so it's entirely my own fault

Hello ladies you all sound like you have been doing nice things
I'm exhausted, it was out town galaday yesterday so a very busy few days, tidying, buying in food, getting ds new shoes and then yesterday out most of the day watching procession, going to watch a sheepdog display in showpark (in heavy rain!) and taking ds round all the rides later on. At one point we were being lashed by rain and clutching chips and hot dogs to warm us up!
Ds's friend who stays round corner from us was a rainbow girl and was having her house decorated as The wizard of oz, so I volunteered dh to help with the work. They went down trad route and had to have spruce arch and window frames. Then the entire front of house had a wooden frame attached and then they built a castle onto that. It was amazing and they won first prize. The parents have spent a bomb and months of work so it was well deserved.

Am resting today as feet very sore with all the walking yest. Dh has taken ds out as my AF has arrived and got quite bad cramps Quite nice having a bit of quiet just now though. Hopefully be more perky whn they get back!!!

Its been lousy all weekend here!! Although I am glad to stay in with my new kitten at the mo Who needs kids when you can have delicious yummy bundles of fur??!!!

Also, pain has been immense this week cos I have been ovulating- in fact too painful to do colouring which defeats the object How can I get pg like this??!!! My bowels are terribly affected too which is making me REALLY sad- sorry for the TMI but when I need to go i have about 20 seconds notice and am terrified of an accident

CRM appt in 2 weeks though so fingers crossed something will be done.....

poppy that house sounds amazing!!! I nominate Simon for loads of stuff too- cheeky isnt it??!!!!

becky am really looking forward to your 20 weeks scan- will you find out the flavour? I predict a girl.

MBM fingers crossed for mc specialist- will be interesting to see what they suggest. Do you have to go private?

nandos hope you are well chick

Love to all xxxxx

Hi m2o So sorry to hear that the pain is so bad - I read your post on Sunday night, but not had time to write anything really since then. Have been thinking of you... What are they going to do? I there anything that can be done to improve it? Sorry if you've already gone over this on this thread, but my memory is crap.
Can totally relate to the 20 second loo warning - I get that sometimes too If I have to go, I HAVE to go like now, and have been known to stand outside toilets doing lamaze breathing whilst bent double and sweating if the toilet is occupied. Is truly awful
The guy I'm seeing in July is also an endo specialist - if you get no joy in the UK maybe you should come over here Re being private - the system is completely different here, and you have to pay for every appointment, even if it's just the GP. Everyone has health insurance and so the fee's are reimbursed at least in part by the insurance company. I like to think of it as a big savings account really - pay all these docs my money and when I send the slips in (you have up to two years) you get the money back Last time I got about 500 Euro's back coz had waited for ages!
It's also really good coz you can go to see whoever you like, you don't have to be referred or get a letter from your GP. In fact my GP has to rely on me to tell her who I've been seeing. The patient is much more in control. I think this health system is great
What were your first symptoms of endo if you don't mind me asking? Someone else on MN suggested that I could have it, so am going to make sure I mention possible symptoms to specialist, but am pretty sure I dont have it.
The pain I get is v different to what yours sounds like, and is no way near as bad. It must be so upsetting for you to be in so much pain that you can't do the necessary. Would you consider doing IVF? Would that be an option?

Poppy your gala day sounds lovely, very countryfied Those sorts of days are fab when you're a kid - many of my best memories from being little are to do with rain and clutching warm foods Did you and ds have a lovely time? Wow re the house, it sounds spectacular!
re AF and cramps. I have my fingers crossed for you and m2o that you get lucky soon, and for me too of course It's just taking too long now isn't it. Do you ever feel like you want to be done with this 'waiting' part of your life? I just want to get pg, have a healthy baby and get on with the other things that I want to do. Hopefully that'll be the case for all of us soon. Fingers crossed anyway...

Becky How are you? I am seconding m2o's request to know if you're going to find out the sex! I reckon you'll have another boy! Three boys, now that'd be a handful

Nandos how are you too? How's the bump doing? Only a couple of months to go now Are you staying where you are till after the birth?

Better go to bed now as working in the morning, but love to you all as always xxx

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Hi everyone

I can also relate to the 20 second warning. In fact it makes me slightly nervous when we are out in town or something if I know I am more than 20 seconds from the toilet! I thought this was just me who suffered in this way!!!! If I have a tummy bug it is worse and I get about 2 seconds - no time at all - hell. TMI I know but I wasn't like this before having DS1 at all.

I have my fingers crossed for babies for you all too - for all of you. I feel bad that I was the 'lucky' one and I already have two children - I am so greedy and selfish - I'm so sorry guys I wish you all were pregnant too. I wish I could make it happen for you all. I'd do anything I could if I could make it happen.

mbm I'm not going to find out the sex. You have to pay £50 here for an extra scan if you want to find out anyway and anyway, surprises are good! I didn't find out with the DSs. I have no gut feeling so far either way. We'll see Three boys would be a handful and think of all those hormones when they are teenagers - crumbs - and the state of the toilet with their weewee! It's bad enough now!!!!! My twenty-week scan is 24 June so not long now.

I'm having a nightmare work week this week - testing a CD-Rom for English Language Learning called Happy House which the DSs love because it is full of games and songs. But it is making me so stressed that I have a horrible mouth ulcer under my tongue and I can only grunt at poor DS2. Reading stories to him really hurts

Better get back to work...then pick up DS1 from art club after school.

I hope you are all well and happy.

Hi ladies
Just a quick one from me!
Have spent the last few nights helping ds (ie making for him) a model of a bus. They have been learning about transport at school and visited the transport museum in Glasgow this week. Right up ds's street. We have just finished decorating it now and he is being "jammied" as we speak. The only snag is they have to stand up and describe how it was made but most of the other mums have been modelling planes, buses, cars etc this week as well

becky poor you with ulcers they are truly vile. I have been getting loads of them just now and had blood test done to see if there was a cause but so far nowt!!!

mbm hope your appt with specialist is useful. Your health system sounds great!

nandos how are you?

M2o (((hugs))) for all that pain. No-one deserves that.

Better go as my dh and ds are rutting upstairs and I need to go and intervene xxx

Glad to hear that I am not the only one with urgent toilet issues Its so embarrassing but mine is totally around ov time- rest of the time I am ok.

MBM- the pain that I have has only been since the MC. The first time I ov'd after the MC I thought I had slipped a disc- the pain was horrendous and I just didnt know what was going on. I kind of put it down to things settling down and put it to the back of my mind then it happened the month after too. I knew it wasnt normal for me as I had never suffered ov pain before- perhaps a little niggle but nothing like the agony it was leaving me in for those 2 cycles after the MC. Luckily after those 2 cycles I spoke to my GP and he immediatly put me on the pill for 6 months as he recognised endo symptoms and said that it was best to prevent any further damage. After 6 months on the pill I had my laparoscopy which confirmed mild endo round my left side (prob would have established itself a lot worse unless I had had those 6 months on the pill) and a 'filmy adhesion' between my bowel and left tube and ovary. In fact the cons couldnt see my left ovary properly because my bowel was just stuck. But my tube is clear which is good news- god only knows the mess I would have been in if my GP hadnt acted so quickly and put me on the pill, the constant bleeding in that area would have done more damage. Since I came off the pill in Dec the ovulation pain has returned, sex is painful midcycle and my bowels are very painful- sometimes I cant sit down because it feels like someone is sticking a sword up my bottom that is something I could only say here!!!! BUT on the bright side, the right side is fine and something can be done. The cons at CRM suggested laser surgery and corrective surgery on the adhesion so there is some hope there. only 9 days to go and we will know what is happening!!! CAN'T WAIT!!!!! Sorry is I have said all this before but had to go through it all again cos just telling part of the story won't make sense!!! I should just cut and paste!!

becky I need to know all about how you got your cats to get on please!!!! write it all here cos we are having a nightmare with playing/fighting (can't tell which is which!!) and I need your help. Sorry for the me me me- hope you are ok!!!!

poppyhope you are well chick.

Bit worried about nandos hope she is ok?? Was she going away??? Is that why we haven't heard??? Sorry if she has said this before but does she live in England?? she is such a jetsetter I dont know!

Love to all xxx hope you are having a gpood weekend

m2o I've seen your distressed posts on FB and have been thinking about what to advise you but I really don't know what to say as our cats get on now and didn't really have any proper cat fights as such - they used to chase each other up and down the stairs and Liquorice would wait until Aki had hidden behind something and guard it so she couldn't get out but that's all really. At first the older one, Liquorice, was a bit hostile but not to the extent of Evie. Liquorice is quite a passive cat generally (for her being hostile is just a bit too much effort - she prefers a quiet life and a good 22 hours sleep a day). Have you tried posting for advice on the pets section on MN? I am sure I did when we got Aki but I can't remember the advice various people gave. Sorry not to be more help

I wonder where Nandos is too. Hello Nandos!!!