***Lets support eachother again- you know who you are ***

[mummy2olivia]

charliesmum, nandos, beakas, sugr, cornflower, poppy, becky and everyone else who miscarried in may/june 2008....

We have all been very brave together and supported eachother. For those of us that are ready, it may be time to support eachother again as we return to TTC. Lets hold hands, remember our loss and give a nod to the future as we endeavour to procreate and............

SHAG!!

As promised, a thread to stay in touch. Will also see you on the MC avengers thread.

hey everyone..

Becky, happy Birthday to your DS2
MBM, good to see you back..hows the trip? also i hope AF doesnt come!
poppy, hope everything is doing fine with you..

u ladies wont believe my stress level is so high right now im puking not because of ms but due to stress its nearly 5am now and i cant get to sleep properly for the last few days.. one good news is half of my work will be completed by tmr hopefully and i will get an appt to see a specialist in hosp by this weekend.
midwife in london already kept calling dh to talk to me everyday and i am still unsure whether to go back there or stay here till birth
sorry for all the ranting but i just need this to get off my chest b4 i explode
am really thankful to MN

MBM i just saw your post after i sent mine.. am so sorry to hear that
it is so upsetting when that happens..why is it so difficult for ppl when they really want children so badly??
i really hope that they investigate the reason behind those mcs MBM and i wish you well always..

Hi all

Nandos poor you feeling sick with stress now. How many weeks are you now? You must be getting on a bit now (in weeks not in age!).

MBM big hug xxx.

Poppy how are you?

I'm just about to make some lunch for DS2 and me. We're watching Story Makers. It's a blue cow story. It's always a blue cow story.

My AF is due next Wednesday but as per I feel about as pregnant as our neutered cat does.

i feel like i could breathe a bit better today yayyy
becky, shit! after u asked me then i realised im 19 weeks today i didnt even have the time to keep counting the weeks cos' too occupied with so many things..
a lot of ppl told me baby's gonna be a girl cos' im not showing at all except dh. he said i always get it all wrong i even dreamt of a baby girl so im positive its gonna be a girl
got to go now and have something to drink..
take care all

MBM (((hugs))) so sorry to hear about your cp. So blooming unfair.

nandos 19 weeks omg that seems to have flown in (well maybe to us).
Good luck when you see the specialist. Will they scan you again?
My friend is 31 wks now and it is really exciting.

becky lol at the blue cow story. My dh loved them. We are all spongebob now!

Just had a haircut and feel so much better now I can see out of fringe again! Have had a vile week. Ds got punched on mouth at school in mon by a v bad boy in his class. Went to school next day to report it. Yest he came out of school with scratch down side of nose. Same boy shoved a traffic cone into his face. Again reported it. School phoned last night to say they would speak to boys. Today got call from his teacher who says other boy admitted it and he will be getting detention. The other child is renowned for his behaviour and language so hopefully now he will stay away from ds.

My other nightmare is that we now have squirrels in our loft and are going to have to have to remove them ourselves as the council "don't deal with that". They cause £6000 worth of damage to friends neighbours house by chewing wiring etc. I could scream. I am due AF a week on tues and due to high stress levels cannot see this being my month

Poppy, the boys that bullied your ds should be totally suspended from school
poor kid..it must be traumatic for him.
glad you had a haircut, my hair is like upto my elbows now need to trim them till shoulder length..
re squirrels i didnt know they can create so much trouble..knew them only as cute furry creatures looking for nuts to eat

MBM and Becky hope you two are ok.. MBM we r here if u need us..

Oooh Nandos and Poppy I think you should either put a photo up of your long hair to your elbows / new haircut up on your profiles here or join Facebook. I want to see what you look like! I know what mbm and m2o look like thanks to Facebook.

Nandos I can't believe you are 19 weeks. Nearly half way there!! Wow. I wonder if it is a girl. I'm going to bet on a girl. Just call it a gut feeling And not showing??? Wow! I must admit I was like that with DS1. With DS2 you could tell at about 12 weeks.

Ooh yes defo Becky I agree! I would love to see your hair, both of you!

Poppy Your poor ds That's horrible and you must be really upset. Has anything happened since the boy was spoken to? Hope your ds is okay...

Nandos 19 weeks Where has the time gone to?!?! Can't wait to hear whether it's a girl - are you going to find out or wait and have a surprise? You must be getting excited now!

Becky How are you doing?

Things are v weird with me - am still just spotting and not come on properly... Am trying to remember what happened when I had that CP before getting pg with DS - I remember the bleeding lasted for 13 days but not a lot else! My cycle is so messed up this month Am feeling rather pissed off and disheartened today - I just cannot be bothered with all the palava of ttc. Am thinking that maybe I'm just not meant to have another baby Can't actually believe that I could get pg again and have everything go right. God I was lucky to have such a straightforward pregnancy with ds. Why does it have to be so difficult for us when there are people out there who get pg so easily???

Right, rant over - am off to cook shepherds pie for supper. I don't really have an appetite at the mo, but apparently dh is starving and is due home shortly...

What are you all up to this weekend? Hope you're doing lots of nice things!

I thought I posted a long message here last week but it isn't here! How are you all? MBM how are you feeling?

My AF due today. No show yet but not pregnant as far as my body is telling me. On antibiotics again because apparently according to my dentist I've had an infection in my bone and tooth for about 1-2 years and I didn't know it and I might lose the tooth so she thinks it is worth one more dose of antibiotics to see if I can get rid of it and heal the bone under the tooth. I cried when she told me I might lose a tooth. I was very embarrassed.

Everything else is ok. Work is very full on. Aki the cat is going to have her op tomorrow. How bad do I feel about that? Here's me dying for a baby and I am depriving my cat of ever having any!

Hi becky poor Aki having her op. I always feel so cruel when I need to take my cat to the vet as she really really hates it

I hope your af stays away. Mine is definately brewing. My boobs have been v sore for the last few days and I am not due till next wk (I think) I am starting to lose track.

Was feeling pretty grim yesterday as I have a throat infec and am deaf and ringing sound in one ear and mouth full of ulcers. Went to gp who says I need ear syringed as it is blocked hydrocortisone tabs for ulcers and blood tests ordered to check underlying cause Wouldn't be stress would it
Was also pretty mad last night as I got a phone call from my gran saying that my cousin who is a bit and never visits came to see her with her mum yesterday to announce she is preg. She was 20 yesterday and lives with boyfriend and his gran, doesn't work and has many "issues". It is a bit of a mystery "why now" but hey ho this will be a shock to her system. Have to admit to being a cross between horrified and jealous of her but won't be admitting that to loads of people

Anyway on a happy note I have booked myself a session with a reiki healer on monday and I am really looking forward to it. Also had a lovely weekend visiting friends I used to work with and their families. Good to catch up with everyone.

nandos and mbm hope you are well.
xx

I'M PREGNANT!!!!!! At least I'm two days late and just done a test and it is positive! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! I don't feel at all pregnant and in fact this morning I had a really strong coffee and it tasted lovely.

Just seen this Becky, and have to repeat, OH MY GOD and HOORAY!!!!!!! Let's hope this one is a sticker

What wonderful news, esp on a Friday! Got the weekend to look forward to, and some fab news that's made me feel like jumping round the kitchen like a loon Actually, that sounds quite a good idea, bet ds would love it!

How are you both Nandos and Poppy? Poppy is completely normal for you to be feeling like that re your cousin. As we know only too well life is just not fair sometimes... Sorry to hear you've been feeling poorly too, poor you. I hope the reiki session helps, it should do .

Well, I went to see my gynae again on Wednesday after what happened last week. He's so nice, but a wee bit crazy all at the same time. DS loves going there as he gets given blood test tubes/syringes/pen drawings on his hand. Think my gynae actually spends more time talking to DS than me, but that's fine by me . Anyway, he's given me a prescription for Clomid . I said immediately that afaik it's for people who don't ov, and he said yes that's true, but that if I took it I would have a higher chance of having a fertilisation occur that actually manages to implant etc. Obv, the risk is higher that we would have twins, esp seeing as I ov anyway... God knows how many eggs I'd produce if I took it! He would scan me on CD12 and if I had three follicles or less then dh and I could try, but if I had more then he would tell us to hold fire. Then, if I got pg with triplets they would take one away. Not sure I like that idea though .
DH and I have talked about it, and have decided not to take it yet as we want to see if we can get there ourselves. I would feel uncomfortable taking the Clomid seeing as we don't seem to have a problem conceiving. We haven't ruled it out completely though - we are just going to see how we feel in a few months time. I quite like the idea of having twins though .
What do you all think of that? Is so unlike the UK over here - this guy seems to want me to get pg asap!

Anyway, must go and crack on with some work while ds is asleep. Lots of love to you all, and will be back on soon.

By the way, tomorrow was the due date of the baby we lost in September. Am feeling ok about it I think. Think am still numb about it really. My friend that was due on the same day had a little boy on Wednesday, and that was wonderful but upsetting for me all at the same time. She sent me a lovely text saying that she wishes I was there to share with her (she's in the US). It made me cry

xxx

Becky, congrats!!!
thats really wonderful news..
you must be over the moon
MBM, thats good news re being prescribed clomid i think.. its not just for ppl who dont ovulate cos' i do ovulate but it also increases the chances of eggs being released..especially since dh's swimmers r not so good.
poppy hope you get well soon..do drink lots of water for the mouth ulcer..it helps..btw what is reiki?
sorry didnt get to post for so long..am too embarassed to go to MN and start my ranting so decided to keep quiet for a while
btw dh might be coming over for a visit to SG am soooo soo happy well 'might' is good enough for me..gives me hope
also got my antenatal appt at the hosp. it was initially dated april! but when they asked me when my last menstrual cycle was, and i replied october, they decided to change it to this coming monday!
hope everything turns out fine cos' i am soo worried but at the same time looking forward for the scan. will tell you ladies our baby gender if they can see it clearly

take care all n good night!

MBM thank you! I am still in shock. I can't concentrate on anything. Is it really true? I hope this is a sticker too. I'm finding it so hard not to tell the world but I must try. Crumbs we're talking 4weeks2days!!!! Big, big hug to you for tomorrow. I'll be thinking about you. So nice of your friend to send you a nice text. I much prefer people to do things like that than just say nothing at all for fear of causing upset. Crying is good for you. It's all part of the grieving process. I cry very easily but always feel better for a good cry.

I don't know anything about clomid really except that I thought it was just for people who are struggling to ovulate. But by what Nandos says it might be a good move for you?

Poppy I hope you are feeling better. I get mouth ulcers sometimes, just one at a time though, and they are very painful. I'm sending you get better vibes.

Nandos very excited to find out your baby's gender!!! I bet on a girl!

Hi sorry I've not been on we have had probs with the computer and it is currently in shop being looked at. This is our temp one dh has set up.

becky wow congratulations I am delighted for you I am sure this one will be fine. This is v exciting news indeed. Have you told ds's yet or are you waiting a bit?

MBM sending you hugs. Imagine your gynae suggesting clomid. That seems so much more than they do here!

nandos good luck with the scan. Do you really want to know the sex? I loved the surprise of not knowing but my friends daughter had one of those 4d scans and found out then so they were v organised when baby came with names and clothes etc.

I got another letter from recurrent mc consultant yest to say that my last bloods have come back borderline for the lupus anticoagulant and the anticardiolipin antibodies so following a positive pg test in the future it will be aprin and hep injections for me!

I have been ill all week with chest infec which had now left me with no voice which is a nightmare. Hoping to be able to manage to go for my reiki (healing energy) tomorrow as I need it now more than ever.

Have a good weekend and again becky well done!!!

xx

poppy ..
poor you..did u see a gp for your chest infection etc? hope you get better v.soon and do see a gp if it gets worse.. am worried for you.

its good that you went to see the mc consultant cos' they tell you exactly the problem and to go take specific meds once you found out you r pregnant.

i've been eating and sleeping whole day cos' feel soo tired. am like an owl now
re finding out the sex, hate surprises..except for certain romantic things so am looking forward in knowing the sex and telling dh over the phone tmr. too bad he couldnt make it to my appt but hope hes happy with either one result(boy/girl).

becky, i am also betting on a girl baby seems gentle n small to me atm so am thinking its not a boy
MBM, how r u hunny? hope you are well too.

Hello!

I haven't told the DSs. I didn't tell them last time I was pregnant and was glad I didn't in the end as I can't imagine trying to explain an MC to them. So I'm going to try to keep quiet until at least 12 weeks if I get that far this time. I have told my mum and blarted it out to a friend on Friday because she asked me if I wanted any more children and I am totally crap at keeping secrets. But besides that I'm going to try to keep it secret for as long as I can bare to! I feel more or less ok so far, still in shock, feel a bit strange and the tiredness is starting to kick in (had a nap after lunch today), am terrified of getting MS as I always am because I am a total, complete and utter wimp when it comes to sickness. But we'll see.

Poppy poor you with chest infection and no voice. I'll send you get better vibes if I can!

Nandos can't wait to hear the sex of your little one! It is very exciting.

MBM how are you?

Hi girls!

Just a v short one as have to cook supper, but just wanted to say a quick hello!

Becky am so glad tiredness is starting to set in, and try not to worry about the sickness, it'll (hopefully ) happen, and however bad it is you WILL get through it. Just take each day at a time... How badly did you get it with the ds's?

Nandos Good Luck for tomorrow!!! It's a shame dh can't be there, but then it'll be lovely for you to be able to tell him what the sex is. I can't wait to find out! Have you felt the baby kick yet? It's the most amazing feeling .

Oh Poppy poor you! It's awful having no voice... You make sure you're resting lots - is dh running round looking after you? I do hope so! That's positive news about the test results, at least they can do something next time to help prevent another mc. How do you feel about the results?

All is fine with me, have had a lovely day today out in the garden, spring cleaning the terrace. We've only been here a year, and with last year being such a write-off I didn't really get anything done outside, so this year it's all go! DH has been trying to fill in the pond so it's safer for ds as he'll be out and about more this year, but unfortunately there's already frogspawn in it, so we'll have to rehome them all first . Next door have a pond and I'm sure they'll take them! Anyway, had a lovely day, and am feeling very relaxed which is good! Only thing is my cycle is so messed up - the bleeding has just about stopped now after my CP (lasted 12 days ) but I haven't a clue where I am and therefore when we should be trying. Think will just write this month off for trying, and enjoy ourselves instead .

Can't wait to hear how you get on tomorrow Nandos! Good luck again, am sooo excited!

xxx

Hi everyone!

I haven't had sickness on any degree as bad as you mbm, mostly just all-day nausea with the the odd dry retching with my last MC (actually felt most sick with the last MC than did with either DS1 or DS2 - no sickness at all with DS1). I thought you were so brave coping with your sickness mbm and Nandos too over Christmas and January. I'm now worrying I feel too awake and 'normal'. Oh dear! Life is just one constant worry. I'm only 4 weeks and 4 days! STOP WORRYING!!!!! I think I need to try to just chill and take each day as it comes. I am sooo happy to have had a positive mixed with completely paranoid it is going to go wrong. I'm just a mixed bag of emotions right now. I've been crying at the slightest thing too.

mbm glad you've stopped bleeding: 12 days is a long time. I think a month of just doing whatever and enjoying yourselves sounds like a good idea. What are you cooking? DH is cooking me a meal we call 'Pork Thing'. It is a meal his Italian Grandma used to cook but I don't think it is particularly Italian! I'm starving hungry.

LOL re pork thing Becky. What is it??

DH ended up cooking bangers and mash, yum yum! Have just watched the last in the series of Lark Rise to Candleford, and am now off to bed! You are right about the chilling - you must try not to worry. What will be will be, and your job at the moment is just to ride the waves and see where they take you. Keep repeating 'chill' to yourself, and let's think positively...
Hope that makes sense!

Lots of love and night night xxx

Pork thing is pork chops, leaks covered in sliced potatoes with chicken stock all cooked in a big pot in the oven for 1 hour 1/2 and served in our house with baked beans!

hey everyone!
came back from the appt and rested for a while so now am updating my news from the hospital

its a Boy!

everyone except one of our close friend thinks its a girl so its a real shock..

i will try to post longer tmr hopefully as its getting late now and feeling a bit sleepy atm..

goodnite n take care

Congratulations nandos boys are great

Now you can think of names

Have you phoned your dh and told him yet? Bet he will be delighted.

You enjoy your rest now and we can hear the rest of your news tmr.

I have had a lovely day. Went to lady for reiki at 11am and didn't leave her house till 2.30. It was fab. Got a meditation, then reiki and after that we were chatting about angels etc when she asked me if I knew a lady in spirit called Jean (my gran) and ended up giving me loads of messages and info from her and other family in spirit. Some of the info was v specific so have been feeling quite uplifted since then.

xxx

Congratulations Nandos!!! What great news!!! You must be very surprised seeing as you were so sure it was going to be a girl! What did dh say? You must both be thrilled!
Have you already got names in mind?

Hope you're having a good rest now! Oh well done you!!!!! Am so happy that all is well

Becky Might have to try that one - will call it pork thing in this house too (in your honour of course ) if you'd like? How are you doing today??

Poppy Are you feeling any better? Did you manage to make the Reiki session?

All fine here, had a busy day and dh has now gone to the gym, so off to entertain ds it is .

Love to all x

Oooh Nandos wow! I was sure it was a girl. My instincts are well off. Boys are lovely (not that I am at all biased having two upstairs getting ready for bed). They are so loving and cuddly.

You lot are going to think I'm barmy but I just did another pregnancy test because I feel so normal and fine! It was positive. I know it is early still and perhaps in two weeks time I'll be here moaning about how shit I feel but I am sure I felt strange symptoms by now before: taste in my mouth, totally knackered, hating coffee (I still like coffee). DH says I am worrying unnecessarily and I can't influence whether this is a keeper or not. Whatever will be will be and all that.

I hope you enjoy Pork Thing if you make it mbm! I love it.

Poppy your reiki sessions sounds amazing. It must have been very strange / wonderful at the same time receiving messages for you and your family. I totally believe in angels and spirits watching out for us.

Aki the cat had her post-op checkup today. She's doing fine but she's been licking her wounds a bit! But can I get one of those big collars on her? Can I men's bits!

Anyway, better go, tea time soon. We're having stir fry tonight.

Oh, I've totally gone off orange juice. Now that is weird!