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TTC #1 over 35

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Clara202 · 16/12/2024 18:43

As the title suggests, if you’re over 35 and TTC your first, I’d love to hear from you! Would be nice to hear from a few of us in the same boat 🙂

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Clara202 · 31/12/2024 10:31

BFN for me today also on a digital clear blue ultra early and on a cheapie. Just want AF to arrive now to get on with it, cycle day 30, 10dpo. I feel really disappointed today and I’m not sure why as I knew this wasn’t going to be our month.
I think seeing the ‘Not Pregnant’ on the digital was a bit more stark than a line not showing up on a strip. I feel like maybe I’ve missed the boat. I listened to a podcast yesterday and I’m shocked to say I didn’t fully understand eggs and how egg freezing actually works until now. We should all be doing it at age 25!

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thejadestoneandthedragon · 31/12/2024 10:51

Clara202 · 31/12/2024 10:31

BFN for me today also on a digital clear blue ultra early and on a cheapie. Just want AF to arrive now to get on with it, cycle day 30, 10dpo. I feel really disappointed today and I’m not sure why as I knew this wasn’t going to be our month.
I think seeing the ‘Not Pregnant’ on the digital was a bit more stark than a line not showing up on a strip. I feel like maybe I’ve missed the boat. I listened to a podcast yesterday and I’m shocked to say I didn’t fully understand eggs and how egg freezing actually works until now. We should all be doing it at age 25!

I'm so sorry for your BFN too! It really sucks seeing it in writing.
It's hard not to feel disappointed, even though you try not to get your hopes up. There are sooo many things I wish I'd known sooner about TTC! We said that we would give it 3 months after Hycosy and then get the ball rolling with IVF which absolutely terrifies me!
Be kind to yourself, you haven't missed the boat, our time will come❤️

overthinkersanonnymus · 31/12/2024 10:53

BFN for me today at 11dpo too. After my dodgy indent line yesterday, I'm in a foul mood.

Clara202 · 31/12/2024 11:21

@overthinkersanonnymus I don’t blame you, so disheartening and I think at this time of year, it’s knowing that you’re going into a new year with much the same ahead of you. If I see any good deals on digitals I think I’ll just stock up, stark as they are I’d rather that than guesswork.

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houwseevryweekend · 31/12/2024 12:09

Hello! I'm 38, got pregnant first cycle in Oct but had a complete miscarriage 3 weeks ago at 8 weeks (though baby stopped growing at 6). I may have ovulated last week but not sure. I only track EWCM and had some at CD 14, I count the day of my miscarriage as CD 1. But post MC hormones and cycles are wonky, so could be a failed attempt! We BD twice since and this is the only cycle I will be equally pleased to see my period as a BFP, as it means I can ttc actively again.

I'm in London and the average age for first time mums where I live/work is mid 30s so please don't feel too old! In fact my 28 year old colleague attended NCT and said she was the only one younger than 35, and none of the group were IVF pregnancies either. Of my friend group of 12 women, everyone had their first DC post 35 except one who had hers at 27 (but had 2 MCs between 25-27), and one at 42 using IVF but she'd been trying since 33.

My nan was an OBGYN consultant who had my uncle and mum at 39 and 42 (naturally) and always said that while egg quantity may decrease with age, quality doesn't decrease so drastically as to affect fertility in the way we are led to believe. There are so many other factors at play for a successful live birth, and actually in her day there were a lot of miscarriages no one ever talked about in younger women (and not recorded so they don't make stats). Also sperm quality also decreases with age but obv men are not scared into testing and guilt trips, or spend a single day worrying about it. She was a strong feminist and believed that as woman gained more independence in the 70s - allowed to vote, have mortgages, credit, jobs etc, the way to ensure they did none of that was scare them into pregnancy younger. Which kept them at home. A lot of medical research is sponsored by private organisations, individuals, shockingly religious groups who are silent sponsors, and pharma companies with agendas, so it's not as unbiased as we think. That's why there such little attention paid to women's health issues other than to put the fear into you about avoiding pregnancy (making it entirely our responsibility) and then guilting you for not trying young enough (also our responsibility).

So many women worry they are infertile or too old and don't even consider that the male partner could be the problem. My friend spent 2 years feeling guilty after failing to conceive, that she should have started sooner rather than focus on her career. They went for IVF and her DH had to get tested the first time where it showed she had no issues but he had very low sperm motility and morphology. So 2 years that he lived feeling absolutely fine about his swimmers and she carried all the guilt. The consultant who confirmed our miscarriage took great pains to tell DH and me this wasn't anything I did but likely chromosomal abnormalities due to genetic material from both of us combining wrong (this is most miscarriages). Basically men are 50% of the conception puzzle too.

The NHS guidance is to wait for one period post MC to start again but that's for dating purposes only, the WHO says to wait for 6 months (something UK researchers have challenged) - so you can see there is no clarity or agreement even in the medical community on how women's bodies work!

So I made a promise to myself to not feel guilty or blame myself for ttc challenges as conception, pregnancy and being a mum are all hard enough. You are all amazing for even trying. Be kind to yourself and proud that you are so resilient and strong to keep going even when it feels horrible and pointless.

thejadestoneandthedragon · 31/12/2024 13:27

@houwseevryweekend thank you for this, I really needed a little pep talk to keep me going🥹. I'm so sorry for your loss ❤️

MrsH26 · 31/12/2024 14:00

@houwseevryweekend i love this way of thinking!! Medical misogyny is a huge topic and so little understood by women, if we really knew everything they’d be suffragette style protests. I’m sure of it!

HollyGolightly4 · 31/12/2024 14:10

Thank you @houwseevryweekend that might be one of the best posts I've ever read on here and I felt so much better reading it xx

Clara202 · 31/12/2024 14:16

@houwseevryweekend I’m so glad you’re here! 1)because a few of us really needed to read your post today and 2)I’m no longer the only 38 year old here 😂
Sorry to hear about your loss ❤️

One thing I noticed is my ewcm, I only had one month where I had two proper days of it. Every other month it was barely there at all.

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Clara202 · 31/12/2024 14:17

HollyGolightly4 · 31/12/2024 14:10

Thank you @houwseevryweekend that might be one of the best posts I've ever read on here and I felt so much better reading it xx

100% 🙌🏻

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Sleepypixxie · 31/12/2024 17:35

houwseevryweekend · 31/12/2024 12:09

Hello! I'm 38, got pregnant first cycle in Oct but had a complete miscarriage 3 weeks ago at 8 weeks (though baby stopped growing at 6). I may have ovulated last week but not sure. I only track EWCM and had some at CD 14, I count the day of my miscarriage as CD 1. But post MC hormones and cycles are wonky, so could be a failed attempt! We BD twice since and this is the only cycle I will be equally pleased to see my period as a BFP, as it means I can ttc actively again.

I'm in London and the average age for first time mums where I live/work is mid 30s so please don't feel too old! In fact my 28 year old colleague attended NCT and said she was the only one younger than 35, and none of the group were IVF pregnancies either. Of my friend group of 12 women, everyone had their first DC post 35 except one who had hers at 27 (but had 2 MCs between 25-27), and one at 42 using IVF but she'd been trying since 33.

My nan was an OBGYN consultant who had my uncle and mum at 39 and 42 (naturally) and always said that while egg quantity may decrease with age, quality doesn't decrease so drastically as to affect fertility in the way we are led to believe. There are so many other factors at play for a successful live birth, and actually in her day there were a lot of miscarriages no one ever talked about in younger women (and not recorded so they don't make stats). Also sperm quality also decreases with age but obv men are not scared into testing and guilt trips, or spend a single day worrying about it. She was a strong feminist and believed that as woman gained more independence in the 70s - allowed to vote, have mortgages, credit, jobs etc, the way to ensure they did none of that was scare them into pregnancy younger. Which kept them at home. A lot of medical research is sponsored by private organisations, individuals, shockingly religious groups who are silent sponsors, and pharma companies with agendas, so it's not as unbiased as we think. That's why there such little attention paid to women's health issues other than to put the fear into you about avoiding pregnancy (making it entirely our responsibility) and then guilting you for not trying young enough (also our responsibility).

So many women worry they are infertile or too old and don't even consider that the male partner could be the problem. My friend spent 2 years feeling guilty after failing to conceive, that she should have started sooner rather than focus on her career. They went for IVF and her DH had to get tested the first time where it showed she had no issues but he had very low sperm motility and morphology. So 2 years that he lived feeling absolutely fine about his swimmers and she carried all the guilt. The consultant who confirmed our miscarriage took great pains to tell DH and me this wasn't anything I did but likely chromosomal abnormalities due to genetic material from both of us combining wrong (this is most miscarriages). Basically men are 50% of the conception puzzle too.

The NHS guidance is to wait for one period post MC to start again but that's for dating purposes only, the WHO says to wait for 6 months (something UK researchers have challenged) - so you can see there is no clarity or agreement even in the medical community on how women's bodies work!

So I made a promise to myself to not feel guilty or blame myself for ttc challenges as conception, pregnancy and being a mum are all hard enough. You are all amazing for even trying. Be kind to yourself and proud that you are so resilient and strong to keep going even when it feels horrible and pointless.

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This is such a great post & a really good reminder to us all ❤️ so sorry for your loss. I hope 2025 brings you everything you want ❤️

Sleepypixxie · 31/12/2024 17:42

Clara202 · 31/12/2024 14:16

@houwseevryweekend I’m so glad you’re here! 1)because a few of us really needed to read your post today and 2)I’m no longer the only 38 year old here 😂
Sorry to hear about your loss ❤️

One thing I noticed is my ewcm, I only had one month where I had two proper days of it. Every other month it was barely there at all.

Hi OP,

I’m 37 & had noticed the same thing with my ewcm, when I used to get quite a fair bit of it.

I took vitamin b6 for the first time this month (to help with pre-period spotting) & noticed a big difference to my ewcm. I’ve since discovered that people also take b6 to increase ewcm, and it certainly helped with mine. And I’ve just got a (tentative) bfp! 🫢

Maybe worth considering?

KittyFantastica · 31/12/2024 17:47

@houwseevryweekend 👏👏👏

Very, very well said! As previously mentioned, I had a MC, followed by a MMC back to back and then a pregnancy with a perfectly healthy little boy. However, I went into extreme premature labour at 19 weeks due to an issue literally every medical professional I've spoken to simply shrugs their shoulders at. It was very treatable, and no one paid attention because I was an anxious first time second trimester mum with two miscarriages in her history. I was refused care via triage because the person on the phone said I was 'just very anxious'. I was in early labour... The archaic attitudes are so harmful.

After my MMC, the midwife doing my bloods before my D&C said we could try again as soon as we wanted. She said the consultant will tell you to wait for at least one full cycle, but there's no actual basis for it, it just means dating of a future pregnancy can fit the NHS's required mould. Lo and behold, after the surgery, the consultant told me not to get pregnant until I'd have one full cycle whilst he was signing some paper work. I asked why and he said, it's better that way and left.

The midwife said do what we felt was right and that the NHS would just have to accommodate, which it doesn't like doing. The systems are decades old and don't work, but they stick to them anyway.

My mum had me at 36. MIL had twins at the age of 40, and another baby at 42. It might get a bit harder, but it's certainly not out of the realms of reality as we are made to think!

thejadestoneandthedragon · 31/12/2024 19:18

@houwseevryweekend @KittyFantastica thank you for this ❤️
Wishing you all the happiest of New years 🥂

Clara202 · 01/01/2025 10:19

@Sleepypixxie congratulations! I really hope it sticks for you 🙏🏻 how much B6 did you take? I’m taking Proceive Max it has 10mg of B6 in it which is 714%NRV. I’m also taking 200mg CoQ10(ubiquinol) and Omegas.

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BabyS2025 · 01/01/2025 10:43

Clara202 · 01/01/2025 10:19

@Sleepypixxie congratulations! I really hope it sticks for you 🙏🏻 how much B6 did you take? I’m taking Proceive Max it has 10mg of B6 in it which is 714%NRV. I’m also taking 200mg CoQ10(ubiquinol) and Omegas.

Sorry to butt in! Congrats @sleepypixxie!!

I'm taking Proceive max too - how come you're taking coQ10 and omegas on top of it?

Clara202 · 01/01/2025 10:55

@BabyS2025 I have always taken Omegas but when I bought Proceive it popped up as a recommended add on so I bought it. I also follow a lot of Fertility Doctors on socials and they all recommended coQ10 if over 35 for egg quality (but to stop the second you get your positive test). I have taken Proceive for about 5 months but only added coQ10 the last month.

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KittyFantastica · 01/01/2025 11:16

Sorry, I missed your post before @Sleepypixxie congratulations!

I also take B6 and have found it's really helped my EWCM situation this month, although mine does tend to fluctuate. Last month, I had one speck. The other thing I've found is that I have much more of it during months I've been consistent with better protein and fibre intake, and at the gym as well.

We've been taking his and hers Pregnacare conception tablets since August 2023. I had an early loss first month we tried, then a MMC. After that, I added extra vitamin C (low levels can contribute to early losses according to the midwife, and I have a history of vitamin deficiency, so added a bit extra), B6 and COQ10. My husband also takes extra vitamin D as it's winter and COQ10. We conceived a beautiful, healthy little boy after one month on these. Sadly, we lost him at 19 weeks due to unexplained early labour, but he was perfect.

Now, I take the same as above, but have also added in Omega 3 fish oil and extra Vitamin D and Folic Acid as my bereavement midwife said they were a bit low (despite my having taken them both during pregnancy) and I'd be put on higher doses if I ever have another positive anyway. Depending on how nice your GP is (and how long you've been trying), you can ask for some bloods to look at your vitamin profile and see if you're lacking anything.

Marvelftw · 01/01/2025 11:18

Hi everyone! Joining in this lovely thread. I turned 35 in October and am TTC my first. Had one cycle since stopping the pill but nothing came from it. Was on the pill for about 17 years so feel like my body probably still needs to adjust being off it, but have been taking vitamin D and folic acid regularly (recent blood test for something else entirely came up that my Vit D levels are alarmingly low). About to enter cycle 2 so let’s see what happens.

Hoping 2025 can be all of our years ✨

Clara202 · 01/01/2025 11:29

@Marvelftw welcome! I think your first cycle after the pill is likely the withdrawal period so you’re only just getting started. I was on it for many years also and it did all settle down quite quickly, although I can’t say the same for my moods! They have been all over the place 😅

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Clara202 · 01/01/2025 11:31

@KittyFantastica how much coQ10 are you taking, and B6? I forgot to add I also take an extra spray of VitD on top of whatever is already is Proceive when I remember. Husband is going to be starting on his supplement journey shortly, he is not aware of this yet 😁

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overthinkersanonnymus · 01/01/2025 11:41

@KittyFantastica I've also added q10 and the ziti west DHA supplement this month. I did t realise you needed to stop taking the q10 if you get a positive. Thanks for the info!

Marvelftw · 01/01/2025 12:01

Clara202 · 01/01/2025 11:29

@Marvelftw welcome! I think your first cycle after the pill is likely the withdrawal period so you’re only just getting started. I was on it for many years also and it did all settle down quite quickly, although I can’t say the same for my moods! They have been all over the place 😅

Hello and thank you for the welcome :) Yes I would have thought my first cycle would have been considered a withdrawal period too (although I know some people have gotten pregnant straight away after coming off the pill). But when I went to my GP to talk about the strange cramping I was having, she
told me it counted as cycle 1 :s

I reckon because I’m in the 35 category she wants me to be able to access help as soon as possible if I’m not successful conceiving on my own. But I will say it threw me off a bit 😅 anyways let’s see what happens from now until June :))

BabyS2025 · 01/01/2025 12:17

Thanks @Clara202 - why do you have to stop the coQ10 when you get a positive?

KittyFantastica · 01/01/2025 12:53

Hi @Clara202 I take 200mg COq10 (2 capsules per the bottle instructions) and 100mg of high strength B6 (one tablet per the bottle instructions). I take 200mg vitamin C (2 capsules) and 2 Omega 3 oil capsules, but can't remember what dosage they are. Basically, anything I might be a bit short in, I take the recommended dose on the box/bottle.

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