TTC after chemical pregnancy

[LucyCL]

I had a MC this Jan , 6 weeks and 1 day. Then I had a CP last Tuesday, 4 weeks and 6 days. I finally stopped bleeding today. Two pregnancies and two MCs so far.

I would like to know what your ttc experiences were like after CP. I admit I felt so lost when I saw the line getting fainter and I have been feeling very low and anxious for the last 7 days. However it is not healthy and it is time to be positive! So, I will be trying again this month. That is why I decided to start this thread.

@LucyCL makes sense - so my egg will be released in the next 24-36 hours?

Hopefully a little sperm will be there to meet it 😂

what dpo did you get your bfp’s before?

I might buy a pack of cheap wondfo ones and test with those from end of next week (probably not on my wedding day though because I don’t want to get upset and I think that will be before implantation anyway)!

I got my first vvvvvfl at 10dpo (but I counted it as negative because it was so faint and was a few hours after it dried, but may have just been the cp causing it to barely show up?).

im hoping this is the month for us! I feel a bit sad I haven’t maxed out my chances by bd’ing the days before my surge but nothing I can do now 😇

excited for us!

Your LH peak is really strong so your body can ovulate! You become extra fertile after a MC and that makes sense because we both got super strong LH peaks after CP.
Measuring BBT makes me stressful during the luteal phase because if I see a drop then I will start worrying about the arrival of AF. However BBT can also fluctuate a lot so it is only used as a tool to predict what is going to happen to our body. Now I have the knowledge that my BBT fluctuates a lot after MC so I cannot rely on this 100%.
If you do get a BFP on 11- 12 dpo, it would be great! Two life changing events happen at the same time. 😀

@LucyCL as soon as the other half gets home, the BD shall commence (have warned him already!).

Yes, the LP is what will stress me out - seeing it drop I will just pack it all up and count myself out for that month!

I'm feeling not as hopeful because I missed the fertile week (the last time we had sex was 7 days ago when I believe I ovulated) so we've missed a couple of prime days. But let's hope my egg doesn't release until Friday so I still have 2 days to catch up!

Exciting times for both of us - I have a strong feeling you will get your sticky BFP! Do you plan on taking a digital at 12dpo? or later? or earlier?! or just if you see a line on the cheap strips?

Actually I got the first vvvvvfl at 10dpo for both pregnancies.
For the first pregnancy, I used easy at home pregnancy test in the morning and saw a shadow. Then I took another one around 11 a.m and saw the first vvvvvfl. I also used the Clearblue Pregnancy Test Ultra Early Triple-Check & Date Combo Pack at the same time to make sure there was actually something. All of them showed 1-2 weeks pregnant and a super super faint line.

For the second pregnancy, I used the first response in the morning and saw a line. I thought it was an evaporation line because I couldn't believe I'd get pregnant so fast in the second cycle after my 1st MC and I knew that First response tests had the tendency of showing False positive. So I took an easy at home pregnancy test 1 minute later then saw nothing.
In the afternoon, I used another easy at home pregnancy test and I could definitely saw a super super faint line. I have attached the picture of this pregnancy test here. I decided to keep it because it acts a reminder for me that I can still get pregnant. Also it is to remember this fertilised egg.
I did a similar thing for my first MC, sadly I lost it at 6 weeks and 1 day. When I saw this medium sized blood clot leaving my body, I felt like I had nothing left from my first pregnancy so I decided to buy a memorial sculpture of a 6 Week Gestation Embryo.
Anyway, let's be hopeful and continue to look forward!

I still think as long as you have sex today (peak day) and the next two days (ovulation day and the day after that), there is a great chance of getting pregnant!
I really hope it is going to be sticky for both of us this time if we get BFPs. 😄
I will keep using easy at home pregnancy tests until AF/seeing a shadow.
I plan to use the easy at home test and the First response test in the morning of 10 dpo then do anther FR and easy at home tests in the afternoon. If I see something, a shadow or a super super super faint line, I will use Clearblue Pregnancy Test Ultra Early Triple-Check & Date Combo Pack to make sure this is actually happening.
Will keep using easy at home pregnancy tests to see if the line gets darker. Maybe one week after that I will use Clearblue Pregnancy Test Ultra Early Triple-Check & Date Combo Pack again to see if the amount of weeks increases.
Will you do a blood test when you find out you are pregnant? Just to test the HCG baseline level?
It is recommended to test hcg every 48 - 72 hours to see if it doubles.
This is my plan.

@GreenPickle There is one thing I would like to share. I did BD once during 2WW and had very very very light spotting after BD when I wiped myself. It only happened once. Then CP happened.
As long as you don't BD between 5 dpo and 9 dpo, it should be fine. Here is the article.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4074557/

@LucyCL I love that you marked both pregnancies! I think it's nice as it really shows the pregnancy did happen. I went the opposite way and threw everything in the bin and hid the babygrow I got.

I used an FRER last month but kept coming up negative (something to do with them using biotin in their binding stuff, and if you take biotin - or excess of it, which i was - then it doesn't show up) so have gone completely off them 😣

haha i love that you are so organised and prepared! i read that the blue dye tests can come up with evap lines so i try to stick to digitals where I can!

I was due to get blood tests previously - i self-referred but then of course, the CP happened quite quickly after that I didn't! Will you get yours done privately?

On the form, it does ask about previous miscarriages, so I will let them know and hopefully they ask me in anyway for blood tests?

My plan of action was to do a digital and wait a week and do another digital and them im pretty much out of the danger zone for a CP.

thank you for the article - very good to have on my wedding night. do you think it had anything to do with the CP at all? I will be between 5-9dpo!

@LucyCL thought you might find this interesting!

I accidentally picked up an OPK from my old batch and used it before I realised.. so I got one from new batch to compare.. quite a big difference! Both still positive but the numbers are interesting

I decided to keep at least one thing then threw everything away (all used pregnancy tests apart from the ones which I used to keep track of my cycle in the diary)

I have never head about biotin before. What prenatal supplements are you taking at the moment? Because of two MCs, I might have gone "a bit" crazy on this.

My OH is taking proceive conception men, Vital DHA (contains Omega 3 essential fatty acids (EFAs), plus a small amount of Zinc) and Kaneka Ubiquinol, Premium CoQ10 Supplement.

I am taking proceive conception women, Vital DHA (contains Omega 3 essential fatty acids (EFAs), plus a small amount of Zinc), vitamin E, Black Maca complex, Vitamin C, Magnesium, Vitamin B6, Vitamin D3, Femceive (a fertility friendly bacteria supplement), Psyllium Husk Capsules (fibre intake), N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC, a Potent Antioxidant for Fertility and Pregnancy), and EN Myo-Inositol Chromium & Folate Blend. At last but not least, I take vitamin D oral spray.

After my first MC, I started to take lots of vitamins to regulate my hormones and I was told that I had PCOS in March after the MC so I started to take EN Myo-Inositol Chromium & Folate Blend. Then I did a private health check on 25/3/24 and I was told that I didn't have PCOS (so either EN Myo-Inositol Chromium & Folate Blend helped or the first person who informed me about PCOS made a mistake)🤔
Originally I also took B12 however the private GP told me to stop taking it as it was high in my blood.

MCs messed up my cycles so I was desperate.

I have only done hcg beta blood tests with a private clinic because I didn't know how to book one with NHS. Could you show me how it is done please?

Your plan is a sensible one whereas I like to collect data from the beginning. Hahaha.

I am not entirely sure of having peri implantation intercourse being the cause of my CP. There are so many factors which could cause a CP. However I didn't bd for the first pregnancy and the implantation was successful.
The only thing which I am 100% certain is I will not BD until I get a BFP or AF.

Yes, that is why I prefer using the premom app to identify the concentration level. Before I started to use the app, I only used my eyes to judge it and didn't get pregnant. Also I didn't test LH every day so as you can imagine, it was hard for me to know the exact date of my LH peak.
So testing LH daily and using the app has helped me greatly.

@LucyCL i take a pregnancy support supplement (for the folic acid). Have added what it contains. I don’t take anything else! Before, I was taking a hair and nails gummy and also a multivitamin (which contained high doses of biotin so I stopped!)

I was drinking Maca powder last month but read this is can mess up your cycle so I stopped… but I don’t wonder if that has anything to do with late ovulation? Probably not! But my partner still drinks it every now and again as it’s meant to help with sperm!

im not sure how lots of supplements will react to my body so I try to only take the pregnancy ones.

as its only my second cycle, and have a 100% success rate of pregnancy (but a 0% success rate of a sticky baby 😂), I’m going to try and hold off any supplements until I think something is wrong!

Thank you! That’s good to know and something I will deffo keep in mind! I will be in the 5-9dpo bracket so will have a research!

@LucyCL hope all is ok with you!

my LH strips are still pretty high 2 days after my surge.. not sure what’s going on. Going to keep testing anyway! Will add an image in my next post 😫

:)

It seems your LH did fluctuate a lot ! Mine too but more or less, it is decreasing.
According to mira, my pdg is rising , LH is decreasing and e3g is decreasing. They all seem normal , following the trend of a normal luteal phase. I have the feeling that our LH levels fluctuate a lot because of CP after ovulation however ours are decreasing.😁

This is how you can interpret the figures on Mira. My LH is still above 5 but it is gradually decreasing.

@LucyCL that's good news! super diligent. Can the mira tell you if you are pregnant by looking at progesterone?

My previous cycle, my LH had gone down the next day. Yesterday it went down but it surged in the evening, and today the test is lower but it's still positive which worries me!

I plan on taking a digital early test tomorrow just so I can cross that off! I'm having no pregnancy symptoms (well, none that I had before) and no PMS symptoms so i might really just be ovulating super late and my body is just doing funny things!

I think I'm 1dpo today but not really sure. I'm going to do a LH test at about 2.30 (same time as yesterday) and one before bed this evening!

Here is what I have found: “Estrogen Levels after Implantation After implantation, estrogen will begin to rise and will continue to do so rather dramatically throughout pregnancy. Both estrogen and progesterone are not only critical to ovulation and implantation, but to carrying a successful pregnancy. Drastically increasing estrogen levels can sometimes be the cause of that not-really-morning-only morning sickness!
But, if you don’t conceive, your estrogen and progesterone levels will drop right before your period. You can think of this as a “clean slate” before the next cycle begins.”

So if there is an increase in e3g at 7 dpo (assuming the implantation happens at the day), it would be the 1st give away sign, followed by a rise in LH and pdg in the following dpos.
So, I will look for this from 7 dpo.😀

@LucyCL interesting! Should tell you early on then! Yes keep an eye on it from 7dpo but be aware most implantation happens at 9dpo. I wonder if you took a clear blue digital, if the flashing smiley could indicate pregnancy?

i did another LH test at 2.30 and it was higher! Not really sure what to make of it.

last cycle it was high 6am and my last test that day was 9am and it had dropped down by 3pm the next day.

im on day 3 of highs! Will take one in a few hours to see if it’s down or still high!

Hum, that is interesting. The implantation takes place on 9/10 dpo then why does e3g start to go up before that ?
I think you will definitely get a flashing smile from clearblue digital ovulation kit from 9/10 dpo because that is the earliest day we can find out we are pregnant. I could be wrong. High LH and e3g at 10 dpo.

How are your today’s LH levels? Mine are getting really low.

@LucyCL are yours still looking good?

here is mine! LH is taking ages to go down but had a .4 this afternoon so that’s a good sign!

was going to take a clearblue early this morning to cross of pregnancy but it had an error so doing it tomorrow instead!

my next test if AF doesn’t come will be what I think is 12dpo and that’s 11th June. What about you?

Yes, BBT keeps rising and LH keeps dropping. Today is 6 dpo. I have been drinking lot of liquid so the morning tests I did on Mira were not accurate because my urine was very diluted. So I take another test every afternoon as the pee is more concentrated.
You can see lows in the mornings and highs in the afternoons, e3g and pdg keep rising which is a good sign. I will do female hormones test tomorrow (7 dpo) to check if everything is good. Will probably do another one this Friday (10 dpo) and a HCG test (just in case). I will do the tests in a private clinic. This is to collect data and if things are not normal and I end up in a CP again, then I could take the test results to a CP as a proof. So they could give me progesterone when I get pregnant next time.
In the meanwhile, I will start using Proov pdg test from tomorrow for 4 days.
I will test again on Mira this afternoon and will share it here.
Did you take a CB test this morning?

"If I end up with a CP again, then I could take the test results to a GP"

@LucyCL keep me updated on the hcg test! can any of those hormones detect pregnancy early?

I did take a CB this morning which was unsurprisingly negative so that is proof that my actual peak was CD30. I will probably take another test 12dpo… I would like to take one on my wedding day just to make sure if i can drink or not but that might be too early (8dpo). I’m not a massive drinker anyway so probably won’t make a difference!

I am currently on CD35 with no sign of AF. My longest cycle was 35 days in December so it might turn up tomorrow but I haven’t been spotting like usual so I doubt it.

i have lots to do this week to take my mind of stuff which is good!

In April 2022 I had a CP at 4 weeks 3 days.

It started as as a very faint positive. I instantly changed as a person. I was filled with love and had a sudden feeling of wellbeing. I kept caressing my abdomen and could feel increased blood flow there. But I took 2 more tests that showed a BFN. I felt very confused. Then at work, I felt a painful period-like feeling, I went to the toilet and looked down, I had started bleeding and the pantyliner was completely filled with bright red blood. This was no spotting, it was a full on period and I was heartbroken. It was more painful than a normal period and lasted 7 days instead of my usual 5. The same day that I had a CP, I also tested positive for Covid - I wonder if that had anything to do with the CP?

We didn't TTC for the second cycle because I wanted my body to heal. I still tracked everything - the CP messed up a little with my ovulation for the next cycle - appearing at day 17 instead of day 14/15.

The good thing about a CP is that it boosts your body's fertility for the next 3 months. On the third cycle, my body was back to normal and I conceived so effortlessly. I felt pregnant as early as 6 DPO - there was a very strong implantation sensation and when I tested at 15 DPO, it was a BFP! Now I have a very healthy DS who was completely worth it 😊

Good luck to all the ladies TTC after a CP, you'll get there!