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Trying to conceive over 40 part 4

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October1979 · 25/04/2023 11:54

Hi girls here is a new thread as we have nearly reached the 1000 limit x

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YellowLoafers · 11/05/2023 18:04

Hi Ladies

It’s a good update from me…baby is fine! Heartbeat visible, yolk sac and foetal pole all present and correct. I’m measuring 6w6d which they said is fine for 7 week scan. They found a bleed area that looks like blood vessels and they think that’s what’s caused the bleeding, so I’m really pleased there’s an explanation for that! Nurse advised to still attend my scan appointment next week that was brought forward, for “reassurance” and to see what the vessels are doing. I’m so relieved I don’t know what to do with myself! But a glass of alcohol free Prosecco is helping!

Thank you to all of you for supporting me through this, you’re all a godsend ❤️❤️

Littlemiss42andfabulous · 11/05/2023 18:57

Wonderful news @YellowLoafers! Enjoy the alcohol free Prosecco Smile

Lauraliverpool · 11/05/2023 19:54

@TraceyTarotReader ❤️ xx

MattieandmummyandIs · 11/05/2023 19:58

@YellowLoafers there you go, told you would be fine! Congratulations x

pcmod · 11/05/2023 20:21

@TraceyTarotReader Aww he is so gorgeous, just too much cuteness in one bundle.

@YellowLoafers That is amazing news, so very happy for you. Lovely to hear all is well with the little one and reassuring they have found the likely cause. Enjoy those booze free bubbles, you’ve certainly earned them.

TraceyTarotReader · 11/05/2023 21:31

@YellowLoafers so happy for you ❤️

@pcmod thank younso much ❤️

Isitthathardtobekind · 11/05/2023 22:18

@pcmod I’m the same really in thinking I’ll leave it to chance as it’s out of my hands then, but then find it disappointing that it’s not working.

I was pregnant just over a year ago - that was very unexpected and I struggled with full on anxiety like a black cloud, feeling I couldn’t do it, things would go wrong, I was too old, it would not be good for my daughters etc, I also had terrible nausea and sickness (more so then my previous pregnancies). I had never felt like that before. The sickness made the anxiety worse and the anxiety made the sickness worse so it was an awful time and then it all ended.

Since about December this year I’ve felt like it would be great and all the issues aren’t issues so will see what happens, then make sure I find out before the sickness kicks in so I can think clearly. In Jan I got my latest AF in years so took a test feeling sure I was pregnant but I wasn’t. I have 2 children already.

Isitthathardtobekind · 11/05/2023 22:22

@unicornglitter123 i am the same really re ivf. I also think I’ll see what happens but then feel like I will regret it one day in another year and like time is disappearing. I don’t know anyone around me who has had a baby past 40.

Iusedtobedontcall · 12/05/2023 06:59

@YellowLoafers congratulations - so pleased for you!

Charlie is absolutely beautiful @TraceyTarotReader

TraceyTarotReader · 12/05/2023 08:01

@Iusedtobedontcall thanks so much he really is perfect and beautiful ❤️

Kelb79 · 13/05/2023 11:26

@YellowLoafers yeeeesss!!!!! 🎉🎉🎉 best news!! Big phew!! I’m so so pleased for you! And so glad you get another scan so soon to reassure you! Really hope you can relax a little and start to enjoy it a bit ❤️❤️🙏🏼🙏🏼

@TraceyTarotReader what a cutie!! Congratulations!! 🎉😁❤️ enjoy those snuggles!!

ive now got a throat infection (possibly strep throat 🙄), am shattered and have completely lost my voice!! 🤣 (OH loves it!!)
I’ve been prescribed antibiotics but need to check with the clinic if it’s ok to take them and tbh I’m taking soooo many meds right now that I think I’d almost rather not… my instinct is just to push on through but with transfer in 3 weeks (eeeeekk!! 😳😳) I want to be as healthy as I can!
Its all starting to feel very real! 🫣🫣🫣

TraceyTarotReader · 13/05/2023 16:52

@Kelb79 thank you so much ❤️ I’m sorry your feeling poorly hope you get better soon x

Hopingforamiracle12 · 14/05/2023 00:19

Hi ladies just wondering have any of you had any professional advice from a fertility doctor regarding odds of getting pregnant over 40? Has anyone had ivf , and if so are you using your own eggs. We planning ivf later this year ( trying to get the money together, hoping September/,october time well have enough) but I'll turn 40 in August I've been on letrozole but had no success

Kelb79 · 14/05/2023 01:31

@Hopingforamiracle12 everyones odds are different - our timelines just aren’t the same 🤷🏼‍♀️
how long have you been trying naturally? Are you cycle tracking? Have you had any tests yet?
lots of people over 40 conceive naturally so definitely don’t rule it out too soon ❤️
Get tests done … AMH to check your ovarian reserve, ovarian volume checks, baseline scans etc Get tests for your partner too. There are quite a few potential steps before IVF 👌🏼
I’m 43, been TTC for over 3 years, had all the tests which initially came back as unexplained infertility, conceived naturally, had an MMC, nothing since, AMH dropped off a lot, we started own egg IVF a year ago, found out then that OH had low sperm
motility that had never been tested for so that was potentially the initial issue 😐 3 rounds of egg retrievals later, 3 embryos, none viable. I’ve been told my chance of success with IVF is 7% so we’ve started donor egg IVF.
But that’s my story, yours could be sooo different! Ask us anything you need to - this group have experienced most in the fertility world ❤️ but definitely get tests and all the information you can before making any decisions xxx 🙏🏼😘

TraceyTarotReader · 14/05/2023 07:46

Just here waiting to ovulate cd 6 hope every one is doing okay x

Lauraliverpool · 14/05/2023 21:04

@Kelb79 how have you found the process of Donor egg IVF? X

Kelb79 · 15/05/2023 12:31

@Lauraliverpool it definitely took my longer that I thought it would to get my head around it all. We finished the last round of OE IVF over 6 months ago and I wanted to go straight ahead with DE but OH held me back saying I needed more time to process it all. I didn’t think so then but he was right. I wasn’t ready, it’s a lot to get your head around. But now it feels exactly the right thing to do and I’m completely relaxed with it. Physically it much easier - Downregging is never fun but easier than stimming. The process being with a Spanish clinic is quite strange, being completely anonymous you know nothing about what’s happening on the donors side of things until the embryo culture results so I’m just following my med plan and hoping that all goes well with her EC and embryo fertilisation and growth. Transfers booked for 3 weeks but could be cancelled if something goes wrong. So that’s a bit harder to deal with but also nice to be able to just forget about it and wait for news 🤷🏼‍♀️
are you considering donor egg? xX

YellowLoafers · 15/05/2023 13:32

@Hopingforamiracle12 I echo what @Kelb79 said. Our journeys and possible outcomes are all so different. I’m 42 and currently 7 weeks pregnant via IVF using own eggs. We had fertility testing back in October and were diagnosed with unexplained infertility. The consultant suggested that IVF with PGTA testing of embryos was the quickest way to “achieve a pregnancy” so that’s the route we went down. I’m assuming that you’ve been trying a while if you’re contemplating IVF later this year. If that’s the case, I’d suggest getting tests done as soon as you can so you know how the land lies and can make plans accordingly. Good luck and do ask any questions here, it’s a lovely and supportive place. It’s kept me sane x

YellowLoafers · 15/05/2023 13:49

Thank you all for your lovely comments on my update! ❤️ I’m definitely more relaxed now. Another scan on Thursday to see what the leaky blood vessels are doing, so hopefully there’ll be a good update on that. I’ve had no spotting for 2 days now so that’s a good sign 🤞🤞

Lauraliverpool · 15/05/2023 14:19

@Kelb79 we did IVF about two years ago, which didn't result in us having a baby, got a son who was conceived naturally. I had counselling after the ivf, which helped me process everything and i thought that was the end of the road. For the past couple of months I've been thinking of donor egg ivf as possibly may increase our chances. We have a consultation this Thursday to explore it more and see what they say. At the Hewitt centre, they have said that the waiting list is about 9 to 12 months. Xx

PP82 · 17/05/2023 13:25

Hi ladies. Feeling very confused following first appointment with fertility specialist. I am 41, DH early thirties. Been trying for 6 months and so far, nothing. It would be our first child for both of us, and I have never been pregnant. We are from the UK but live abroad so different healthcare system.

It’s easier to get tests and investigations done under the public system here, and so far everything has come back fine, except for slightly high blood glucose, which I need to watch because I’ve put on quite a lot of weight recently and diabetes runs in my family. Have appointments lined up to test for my ovarian reserve and AMH (thought these were the same test but apparently not? – am not conducting appointments in my first language so it can be challenging!) and DH’s sperm but will not get all the answers from the public system for another few months. We would not be eligible for any treatment though, due to my age, so will have to go private for that.

Anyway, going into this I had, in my own head, a very clear plan, and DH was fully on board. This was to see if there were any problems that could be treated without having IVF (ie no blockages requiring surgery, nothing that could be treated with hormones/drugs) and if nothing of this nature cropped up, continue trying naturally for a year or two. I have absolutely no issue with using donor eggs, and regardless of how test results come back, feel a certain amount of trepidation when I look at the statistics for OE IVF over 40. We can afford a few rounds, but do not have endless amounts of money to throw at this. In short, would rather try naturally for longer then straight to DE than jump in using own eggs right now.

However the fertility doctor threw all this into confusion. She encouraged us to go straight to a private clinic, where we would get results and consultations faster. She said I may well still be a good candidate for OE IVF, but that at 41 I couldn’t waste time. She seemed to see DE as some sort of last resort consolation prize, which is not how I see it. This has made me question myself. We are lucky, in that we could go and get the ball rolling privately tomorrow if we wanted. However for various reasons (mainly related to work and finances, also some health reasons too. Nothing that would prevent TTC/IVF but things I’d ideally like to get sorted first) it just doesn’t feel like the right time.

I realise most people would think it mad to still be postponing at my age, but I’ve got a history of making unconventional life decisions! At this point I’ve waited such a long time to be a mum that I don’t want to get on the IVF treadmill, with everything that entails, until I feel like the timing and our situation is right. Am I mad to leave it, and potentially lose my last chance to use my own eggs, as the doctor seemed to think? Or should I stick to my guns, and do what I feel is right in my gut? Any perspectives/experiences/input much appreciated! (Sorry for the essay!)

99pctpractice · 18/05/2023 09:51

Hi @PP82 ! Totally understand why you're a bit confused after your appointment. It sounds like your consultant didn't really listen to what you had already considered and the plan that you wanted to adopt. I think it isn't unusual for consultants to think of de being "last resort" and expect you to want to do everything you can to know oe won't work for you before moving to de. It sounds like you already know that you are comfortable going ahead with de if it doesn't happen for you naturally, so I'd agree with your reservations about age and cost. Just my experience, but I decided to go ahead with oe ivf (at 40), and had a year of 5 rounds of unsuccessful oe ivf which was not great for my marriage or my sanity. We didn't get pregnant through ivf (though we had a natural conception miscarriage along the way) and it was just a very sad process of watching my egg quality decline and the results get worse in real time. So I would say my experience is in line with the stats. But then I have friends who it has worked for first or second time of trying with ivf (in their 40s) so that isn't to say it can't happen, just that ivf isn't a magic silver bullet, especially after 40. I would definitely go with your gut on this one : I don't regret doing oe ivf (because I think I would always have wondered "what if" if I hadn't), but I definitely wouldn't recommend it if you're already not sure it's for you....

I would probably go for private tests but mostly because I'm impatient and don't like waiting! but again it depends how much the results would impact your plans : amh / ovarian reserve won't really tell you that much other than how many eggs you will likely produce in ivf (even with low amh you can still conceive naturally) or how close you are to menopause. They would need to do a hycosy or hsg to see if your tubes are blocked. Sperm analysis / dna fragmentation tests can be useful because there are lifestyle changes that can really impact sperm quality in a relatively short period...

Good luck!! And hopefully you don't need ivf either way :o)

Littlemiss42andfabulous · 18/05/2023 14:56

Hi @PP82 - welcome and sorry to hear the appt wasn't as helpful as you wanted to be.

If you've only been trying for six months, and are 41, it could still happen naturally. My experience was trying naturally for 12 months aged 40 and then conceiving my daughter aged 41. I had a very uncomplicated pregnancy and she's 15 months now and I'm 7 weeks pregnant with number 2, aged 43 and after 5 months of actively trying to conceive naturally with my husband, who is 37.

Wishing you all the best as you go forwards xxx

October1979 · 18/05/2023 21:55

Hi @PP82 I decided at 40 to TTC naturally for as long as I could then go straight to DE. I had 2 missed miscarriages which were medically managed and 7 chemical pregnancies in my journey. Getting pregnant wasn't the issue it was staying pregnant. I suspect it was my egg quality. At 42 I decided enough was enough and went straight to DE. I figured if it hadn't happened naturally in 2.5 years then it wasn't going to with OE ivf . I couldn't handle the disappointment of it didn't happen. I decided to start my DE journey in prague in April and was pregnant my second transfer in September. This pregnancy resulted in my triplets that are 8 weeks old and perfect. Good luck on your journey. Only you know what's right for you x

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YellowLoafers · 19/05/2023 11:41

Hi @PP82 and welcome 👋 I’m sorry the appointment was confusing. It’s often a bombardment of info and Drs will have their own opinions on what you should do! It’s a deeply personal decision on how you proceed, we’re all different (as you can tell from the PPs who’ve shared with you so far!) so it’s not one size fits all, and the stats for IVF over 40 are a bit doom and gloom.

My own experience is that I’m 42, currently 8 weeks pregnancy via OE IVF. We started trying a few months after I turned 40, well, I say trying but once I researched into what actual trying meant (temping, OPKs etc) I realised we were being a bit casual! Just being off contraception was not enough for us 😂 So started properly trying from just after I turned 41. Didn’t get even a hint that of a natural pregnancy, so we had fertility testing when I’d turned 42. The diagnosis was unexplained infertility, and because my AMH was “fine” for my age, the consultant advised that OE IVF was worth trying. So I’ve never properly considered the DE route and how I’d feel.

Is it worth talking through options with a counsellor? They may be able to help you work through how you’re feeling and the keep trying naturally versus going for it now scenarios. Good luck to you ❤️