Tactical seduction and POAS addicts

[FfayeN]

Hi ladies. I have started to feel a little overwhelmed with our usual thread and we are at different stages of our journeys now. Please feel free to leave this one if you don't feel the same but I feel so invested in your journeys and don't want to miss any news. Hoping this is ok, I don't think you can do DM as a group?
Hope you are all doing well and if there's anyone I've missed from the usual bunch feel free to add 😘😘😘

@MrsCristianoX @TheBirdintheCave @Indianna2006 @theblueflowers @bunnykins123 @LuckyMoonstone @mummatara

@TheBirdintheCave that's also still very early days, I hope all goes well for them but I'm sure they're filled with anxiety behind closed doors so I imagine it isn't easy. I get your struggles though, life can be really cruel xx

@FfayeN Yeah my sister in law is really scared after last time :( But like, even if it doesn't work out this time give it another two months and they'll be pregnant again 🤷🏻‍♀️

Sorry, I'm just old and bitter.

@TheBirdintheCave it's hard because there's so many different type of fertility issue and none is worse than another.
My best friend tried for 3 years and nothing! No issues identified just could not get pregnant, then all of a sudden it happened as they were going for IVF. After that one another 18 months of trying before falling with her second.
I've gotten pregnant pretty easy each time but had 3 losses in that same period. On my 4th now but not optimistic. We've discussed it at length and both have taken its toll on each of us in equal measure 😔. It's hard not to compare but getting pregnant easily doesn't mean a journey is less painful or traumatic. Hopefully someone will get back to you with some answers soon, in the meantime keep plugging away for that one swimmer to get to where it needs to be 🤞🏼 xx

@Indianna2006 that's really helpful to know. But also a bit worrying!! I literally time our dtd to a positive opk which makes me think I am giving us terrible odds waiting for this 😂

@calimc83 wow that's flown past! Can you feel the wee baba? It must feel so real now!

@TheBirdintheCave awh hun. I'm sorry, it's fecking hard when someone announces. I do believe in life, we are all given 'journeys'. Some are easy, some are hard. For me fertility has been a hard one. And maybe for someone else, they will have a hard journey in an area that I have had easy. Maybe a bit woo but it makes me feel a bit better about myself anyway 🙃 keep in touch about ivf - we are headed there too...

@TheBirdintheCave nope you can't have that title.

Im more old and bitter 😕

You can have covid though..slightly old, slightly bitter and covid 🥲

@MrsCristianoX I think we all count as slightly old and slight bitter 😂😂😂

@FfayeN 🤣🤣 oh how true!! How are the 'suppositories' going? Xx

@MrsCristianoX I'm not gonna lie. Its bloody grim. So after 'fart-gate' I was going front ways, I can't tell you the mess it makes, no chance of hubby getting close 😳, then it caused a bit of spotting so I've been going back to the back 🤣. I permanently have a greasy bottom...it's not nice at all!! Although more chance of actually getting to DTD at some stage if I can stay awake passed 8pm ever 😂😂😂.

@FfayeN did your first poo on them freak you out? I was terrified when I saw the white mess - nobody prepares you for that 😳

@bunnykins123 luckily you had mentioned it! What's worse is sometimes the wax that sits on top of the toilet water 🫣. Honestly it's not pleasant isn't it!! x

Another thing I am suffering from is awful lower back ache. Completely different to my previous pregnancy symptoms, just hoping it's a good sign rather than a bad one xx

@bunnykins123 Yes! Starting to feel quite a bit now..but also brings with it even more anxiety when they're quiet! 🙈😫..still doesn't feel real. Still can't imagine them arriving safely yet..argh! X

@Indianna2006 Oh that is very interesting! I stupidly believed the gumpf they put on the OPK packet that you ovulate 24-48 hours after peak. I guess they might not sell as many if they said that you might have already ovulated by the time your peak appears!
It’s good to know though for future cycles - just means this cycle is a bit of a write off. So… now the pressure is on to do more DTD in flashing smiley zone.

@pangolin84 I know. I actually think I read this before (someone different posted) but didn't believe it. It's maddening 🤯

@FfayeN I had a text I forgot to send about the suppository experience but you have since answered..well for the greater good..🤞I had awful back ache early with my daughter xx

@MrsCristianoX I'm intrigued! To be fair any questions just ask away 😂. I could be doing it all wrong though lol. Good to know this backache could be normal though ☺️.

@Indianna2006 @pangolin84 I never knew this either!

@calimc83 I can only imagine the daily worry! Hope your little one is kind and doesn't stay still for too long in there 🤞🏼 xx

@FfayeN I used to put them in at night and then by morning the worst of it was gone.

@pangolin84 @MrsCristianoX @FfayeN
yep I know! Tbh the packets lie lol. Every persons set up is different I guess and each month can be different.
i never take 24 hours to ovulate after my peak let alone any longer. If I got peak in morning. I’d ovulate that afternoon. If I got peak in afternoon I’d ovulate that evening. Mine happens like 6-8 hours after seeing the peak. Cos 1 I feel it. No mistaken it. It’s the same every month. An then my temp rises the next day so. Those packets are fibbers 😂😂😂

It can be that fast. And so alas if it is that quick that month and you save to dtd. It’s almost prob a bit late. Not enough time for them to capacitate into sperm to be able to penetrate egg. Day before you ovulate is best. Hence I never waited for a positive opk cos I’m sure I’d always of been a tad too late by that point. Worth a go obv. But I had to try predict dtd before hands.

we did 4 times in a row cycle I fell with this bubba 😂. Missed out ovulation day tho cos I could not be arsed 😂😂😂

@calimc83 your 20 week scan is sooo close. I’ve had right growing pains today. All in the front. Round ligament pain I think and womb stretching. And then it makes my back ache too @FfayeN so totally normal. I had lost of backache first trimester early on as well. Just stuff shifting away and “doing things” as I call it.

@Indianna2006 I actually JUST coughed, googled my stabbing pain...round ligament pain...no word of a lie! So I hear ya...there's a lot of shifting in there 🤞🏼

@Indianna2006 what I would love is to find someone who was tracking their surge with opks and also getting scans to see roughly when the egg was released. I've tried looking online a few times (surrrrley some of the ivf gals must have done this 🤔) but not found much. I'm certain I O much later than my peak. With DD I had a peak and then then potentially O 6 days later. She was 6 days behind in the scan so it kinda makes sense but also hooooow 🤷‍♀️

@bunnykins123 I’m not sure biologically 6 days is possible.. The hormone surge is what tells your body to release the egg. And the hormones wouldn’t hang around for 6 days to do it. I think the most it can be is 3. Or what can happen is you can get an opk surge. Ovulate the next day. But it take 2 days to rise on bbt. Doesn’t mean it took 3 days to ovulate. Just it took 3 days for your body to adjust your temp etc and the progesterone pick up high. Biologically is all very complicated 😂😂 no wonder it’s so bloody hard to get pregnant sometimes. Too many variables.
also can be ppl think they get a surge. But it doesn’t do it. And it surges again. An so perhaps the testing of the opks goes a bit skew whiff once they think they have a peak.

everyone's body is different but a baby measuring 6 days out would likely be implantation difference of different women.

but yep like I said. I actually ovulated on my scan that day already. I was going for a Gyno check as was worried it had been 6 months without conceiving after the mc. She could see free fluid an said you’ve ovulated today. I thought she was talking rubbish 😂. An my peak was there when I tested when I got home. But wasn’t there in the morning. So mine is fast man! 🤣🤣 super speed.

@Indianna2006 @bunnykins123 this happened to me in September. Like it looked like a peak then dropped then a darker one appeared. These things are mental! Basically just DTD every couple days then? Well when I'm allowed 🙄

Stupid lines messing with my brain🤯Is temperature a better tracking method you think? I'm dying to get this Ava thing, just need an excuse 😂

Just spent a few hours mulling over IVF and whether I can mentally afford to essentially set fire to £10k (cheapest I can find for one fresh and one frozen cycle which is max what we could afford) in the hopes of getting another child. I don't believe it will work I suppose and then I'll be reminded of our failure for years in repayments.

I wish we'd actually gone through IVF the first time round like we were meant to as then we might have had frozen embryos ready for transfer and would be paying a fraction of the cost to have one put back :( I love my son but it seems the surprise timing of his arrival means he will likely never have a sibling :(

@MrsCristianoX yes deffo looked like that month for you it geared to ovulate. Didn’t. Do it then it did it again a few days later.
i think temp tracking works well. Once you know your cycle and you’ve done a few. Ie like I said. I always get a ride day after ovulation in temps. Some ppls can take 2/3 days to rise and show it properly as they have what’s called a slow rise. Mine was always sharp and very obvious. Helps to pinpoint tho when it happened.

@TheBirdintheCave aww hun. It’s so so hard and it is a lot of money.
i know you were then moving onto ivf when your son was conceived. Was it like 16 months stc? But sometimes for some ppl that can be normal. It’s only slightly over what they say is normal for fertile couples. An obv you fell fairly quickly this time. I now you lost it. An haven’t fallen again since. Remind me how long it’s been since mc? I guess what I mean is don’t lose hope! Feels too early for you to lose hope it will happen again naturally?
I know your husband had some sperm issues before. But you got pregnant. Twice. So you can. To me. That’s positive signs.

Or do you feel in a major rush to get it done. Ie age gap of children and your own age?