SMEP-ing our way to a BFP 🍁🍂🐿️🍂🍁

[Aurora81]

Our SMEP plans continue.... The old thread is almost full, so I started a new thread so we can continue on SMEP-ing to a BFP ✨☺️✨

@fsr111 well the ava picked a temp rise overnight, so if it stays up it'll confirm ovulation as being yesterday, which corresponds to my static smiley on Saturday, so I am officially done with boinking for baby making this cycle! Won't see partner until Thursday evening now, so just have to hope we're lucky this cycle. Our timing should have been pretty good in theory (will attach chart). How are you getting on?

@allgoodthings84 hope your blood test went ahead OK, fingers crossed for quick results 🤞

@NSx hope you're doing ok, we're all here if you need to talk to people who understand 💗

@allgoodthings84 @LucyFraser1981 @fsr111 thanks so much - I’m at work today but off tomorrow and Wednesday … So trying to take it day by day.
still got O on my CB - would have expected flashy smileys by now so looks like ovulation might be delayed as I thought it was going to be Thursday (cd15) but who knows !

how u all getting on?

@LucyFraser1981 that looks promising 🤞 good luck, I hope u catch 💕💕💕

@LucyFraser1981 I hope you had an amazing night?

I hope my tests confirm all ok but it’s not going to put my mind at rest as I don’t think the issue is until a few days later.

I’m not sure what’s going on with me as my RHR has plummeted and my HRV shot up which happens just before or just after AF starts usually. It started from Saturday nights readings then dropped/rose even more from last nights readings. I had issues with my old Fitbit at the end of its life with RHR not going up much but it’s never dropped so much half way through my LP. That on its own wouldn’t concern me but the fact my HRV has gone up at the same time doesn’t look right for 7dpo. I think I definitely ovulated though as had the positive OPK along with EWCM (more than usual even) and then right after when ovulation would have been the CM changed to creamy CM so I definitely think ovulation happened but the Fitbit stats concern me and make me think still a dropping progesterone issue. I guess these results will tell me if it’s dropped loads at this stage this cycle though.

Although even if my progesterone is low this time I won’t know if it’s a standard issue for me or if it’s because of the miscarriage 🤦‍♀️. So the results will worry me either way 😂 but at least I can then email my GP and he’s promised to get gynae to look into the results and maybe find out more.

@NSx could it be delayed as you’ve got so much on your mind right now? Stress can delay it. Or maybe this cycle is going to have a quicker surge. Why can’t everything be easy to know what’s going on! We all end up second guessing and wondering

@allgoodthings84 you could be right - God only knows the answer -
hopefully I get a flashing smiley tomorrow - my cheap strips aren’t showing much atm

how are u getting on? X

@NSx hopefully you will ovulate asap and this will be your cycle! 💕. I’m ok just things whirring around as mentioned in my reply to Lucy above. I’m 7dpo now so AF due in 6 days (Sunday) and spotting due to start Wednesday/Thursday

@allgoodthings84 sorry I haven’t read all the thread properly as I’ve been out & about doing stuff…
fingers crossed you get your BFP 🤞✨ hopefully no spotting either this month …
did u redo your day 21 bloods ?

@NSx don’t be sorry you have a lot going on and, you know a life ha ha. I’m just being lazy and couldn’t be bothered typing it out again 😂. I don’t think I’ll get a bfp this cycle as something weird is going on with the massive drop in RHR and rise in HRV in the last 2 nights. It way too early for AF (I know that’s not about to start yet) so makes me worry about why.

It’s in my head about progesterone and I know that dropping makes rhr drop and hrv rise. I had my bloods today so I’ll know if this drop in rhr and rise in HRV is to do with progesterone or not because if it is surely my result will be really low? If it is really low then I still won’t know if it’s just because of the miscarriage as this has never happened before. Well not since I’ve been tracking it.

I’m pretty sure I did ovulate because of the opk matching my EWCM then since ovulation having creamy CM. I also felt quick sharp pains near ovulation. I actually really hate the worry with ttc. Seems so unfair some people get bfp first cycle every time and others (like all of us) really struggle.

have you got anything planned for tomorrow?

@allgoodthings84 do you track HRV too what even is it? I only track RHR ? tell me more pls ✨
im confident u did ovulate, when do you normally get EWCM, i swear I never see this?
do you use any preseed or anything normally ?
I think the progesterone thing is in your mind and won’t be put to bed until u get your bloods back and maybe see that your fine 🤞 …
Yea it’s so unfair all of this really I can’t be bothered anymore tbh… it’s exhausting.
no plans - I am off work so will just try keep busy? Maybe goto the gym or something I don’t know really — just hoping to have a easy a day as poss x

@NSx yea it’s on my Fitbit and did some Googling. It’s heart rate variability. I don’t fully understand it but it’s meant to go down during LP and back up again at AF. Basically the opposite to RHR. So no idea what’s happened in the last couple of days. I’ll be interested to see what it does tomorrow. If it’s happened because of progesterone though it will show in my bloods as they would be low. My RHR never drops before my spotting starts it’s always closer to AF or when AF has already started. Maybe my body is still recovering from the miscarriage who knows 🤷‍♀️. I’m definitely confident I ovulated just not sure what’s happened since. I think I’m just going to have to trust whatever the results are and try and move on from my thoughts to ttc.

The gym could be a good idea as can get the hurt and frustration out. I think I would probably just eat pizza and chocolate though 🤦‍♀️. We will be here to listen if you need to talk

@NSx oh just realised I didn’t answer your EWCM question. I usually get it 2-4 days before ovulation and it stays until it goes day after ovulation. It’s usually just a little bit enough for me to notice it but I had quite a bit more this time. Not everyone gets it or enough to notice it and I do and now on cycle 6 (or 1 I guess, I don’t really know what to count it as) so I don’t think it makes a massive amount of difference.

@allgoodthings84 so I got O yesterday and day before so didn’t DTD and today woken up with a static smiley 😭😭😭 this has never happened before … FML.
cheapies have went to 0.63 😭😭 not quite peak but hoping to peak today so if we DTD today and tomorrow literally only 2 days in fertile window -1 and O if I ovulate tomorrow … what the hell is happening this has never happened before 😭😭😭.
I don’t really get EWCM per se, tbh I don’t really check but I think I would notice, I do get lots of CM but it isn’t always clear.
why is ttc such a mind f*ck

thanks so much for the compassion, today will be hard but now I have the added stress of TTC as I thought ovulation would be Thursday maybe even Friday but seems not and I have done O 😅

@NSx our bodies really do like to throw us curveballs for sure. The most important days are day before and day of ovulation so you’ve got those. I don’t check in the sense of out my finger up there but it comes out on the toilet paper when wiping sometimes.

maybe tonight you will make a baby 💕

my RHR has started to go back up and the HRV back down. Not fully on the RHR but jumped back up a couple bpm. So no idea what’s going on. My bloods will tell me if the drop was anything to worry about though so good timing really

@allgoodthings84 honestly you couldn’t make it up.. I’m so confused but anyways I’m heading to the gym in a bit & we have someone working in our house so once he goes we will see what happens.
honestly I have no words…
would love to make a baby but I am not holding my breath 💕
my Apple Watch has RHR but don’t know about the other thing I’ve not really looked. My RHR has been lowish all week so hoping it will go up on Thursday …
I swear there’s like so many things you could keep track of 😭 it gets obsessive

@NSx yet and if anything doesn’t follow the pattern we expect to see we worry that there’s something wrong and we can’t have a baby 🤦‍♀️ when realistically we know there’s many things that make our body do whatever not just because of being pregnant/not being pregnant. If I did BBT I would worry about that too no doubt 😂. My ovulation varies by 4 days so I always start dtd EOD on CD8 ish but I don’t use the CB opk’s just the cheapies and know I have a quick surge so I can’t leave it to see what happens.

@allgoodthings84 well I’m normally bang on schedule recently with ovulation cd15 and my OPKs are normally pretty bang on too, but this month the lack of flashing smileys is a bit odd…
So I don’t really know … yes bbt can become a bit obsessive too, but it’s the only thing I can track to try and monitor my ovulation 🤞✨ so I kinda do it just to check x

@NSx definitely odd considering it never happens for you. Do you think it’s a faster surge this cycle and that’s why not flashing? Or maybe something up with the opk thing as had O for so many days? I hate it when there’s something that throws us out of sync. The only thing I want to differ is a bfp that sticks.

I’m hoping my results come through tomorrow as I know my doctor is working (so can hopefully find time to approve them). I know he’s working tomorrow as I’m taking my daughter to see him in the morning. If the results are there but not approved it will be hard to not say “oh can you just approve my bloods” 😂 he won’t even know who I am as not seen him in person for over 5 years and it’s my daughters appointment so my details won’t be on screen etc

@allgoodthings84 ive been using this same OPK for like 5 cycles now, I haven’t changed it so it’s accustomed to my levels, I did a cheap OPK yesterday too and it was negative - so maybe my surges are different this month. Only things I’ve did different is upper my COQ10 I’m on about month 2 of 510mg where as before months only 60mg - also, I upped my vitamin c this month to 500mg. Before was 200mg - everything else is the same so I don’t know. If I ovulate tomorrow 🤞 I should have a 28 day cycle this month, which isn’t unheard of for me, but the surge defo happened faster this month.
I defo just got my peak I’ve just tested again on a cheapie.
when did they say you are likely to hear back? Normally results only take a couple of days to come from the lab; the Dr then has to look at the results and mark the comments … however if you are in to see he doctor in person you can most definitely ask him to check your results for you on the spot, he should be able to do that no problem.

Forgot to attach my OPKs @allgoodthings84

@NSx yep that’s definitely positive ha ha. A quick surge this cycle then. Looks just like mine do. In terms of taking new medication if it changes anything it tends to delay ovulation so doubt it’s that. One of those things I guess but I totally get your frustration and confusion as I would feel the same.

I can’t really ask there as got my daughter with me and she will want to know why I was having blood tests. She hates the doctors or anything like that since she found out about death. It makes her worry. Also, she might tell her dad. I know it will be there this week so that’s the main thing and I know I’ll worry no matter what they say 😂

@allgoodthings84 its just bizarre but as long as I ovulate I don’t really care 😭😂😂 … I never have surges like this but if u have them then I guess it’s normal 😅

ah ok, maybe not then, u will just have to wait for the results 😭 hopefully sooner rather than later 🤍

@NSx yep totally normal. As per I checked into it when I realised and it’s around 46% of women have fast surges according to premom easy@home.

@allgoodthings84 well that’s a positive I suppose 🤞✨

we just managed to get rid of the painter and decorator and finally DTD 😂😂😂😂

@NSx oo day time sex. I don’t remember what that feels like 😂

I feel incredibly sick and have done on and off since last night . I hope I’ve not caught a bug from somewhere. I hate sickness

@allgoodthings84 yessss we don’t normally get a chance during the wk as we are working but we’re both off today.
will DTD tomorrow morning too, so hopefully that will count 🤞✨