Soy Isoflavones..yay or nay?

[moly39x]

Been doing some research on soy isoflavones & I didn't know what people's opinions are?

I have a 35 day cycle, ovulate between CD17-21 - currently 7th month in of TTC after 1 early loss at 5 week in October.

Do people have any experience with taking them? I read the following on an old thread here about with CD to take them..

My concerns are; I have little/none EWCM (have conceive plus lube) but I get positive OPK every month (temping just stressed me out which I decided would do more harm?!) and I'm sure soy iso is to help ovulate? But now I've read the below, it looks as though it can help the egg. I'm cautious about messing up my cycle so was just looking to hear other people's experience.

Here's the info I've read here (have lots more saved in my notes if people want to see about the dose etc if interest) :)

Thank you x

1-5 = you produce more eggs, and ovulate sooner, with a stronger ovulation.

2-6 = you produce more eggs that usual, but not as many as taking it 1-5. Eggs may be more mature, and ovulation will be slightly more strong than 1-5.

3-7 = The best of both worlds, a few more eggs, and all eggs will be strong & mature, and ovulation will be alot stronger than 1-5.

4-8 = No more eggs will be produced, but the ones already there, will be matured alot more than usual, and ovulation will be very strong. Ovulation may only be brought forward a teeny bit.

5-9 = You'll have one very mature strong egg, from the ones you already produced on your own. Ovulation will either happen when it usually does, or a few days later, but your egg will be of great quality.

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 it's such a clear line for 9DPO, really hoping it sticks around. But I know exactly what you mean. And your acupuncturist wasn't wrong when she said after x amount of sessions you'll see benefits / a positive! Is really encouraging for me as well

That's what I was thinking of for you, because she really worked at blood flow to the uterus etc and I know you've been talking about that with yours! 🤞x

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 ahhh congrats!!!

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 congratulations! That’s amazing. Proper strong line for 9 DPO! Didn’t I say lack of symptoms was a good sign!? its my biggest giveaway for my last two BFPs.

Got sore boobs this month so not feeling hopeful. On 3 dpo today started the progesterone cream 1 DPO.

Thanks @Slk3558 yes you were right! I hope it's okay though, just waiting now 😬

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 to be honest when you said you hadn’t had any of your usual pms symptoms, I felt you might get a BFP this cycle. Fingers crossed, you’ve been having decent leutal phase with soy I think your hormones seem to be on track now ! I wish you all the very best, do keep us updated xx

@Slk3558 the progesterone cream could be making your boobs sore. Is it making you feel anything else, poorly or anything?

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 it's very exhausting! I've only got 2 more opk I think so may be giving up After this weekend 😂 temps further down again today - my body is broken 🙄

That test from yesterday looks great! Will you bed texting again today?

@Marvellouslymadmum that's very strange. Maybe it's a slightly off cycle after the vaccine, they're researching vaccine period disruption I saw in the news.

Yeah I only had a crappy clearblue cross one left and it's not very clear. But it's a faint blue line. Feeling nervous, stopped temping, it's so early I shouldn't have tested so soon. @choccrumpet I honestly don't know how you have done this so many times x

Hope everyone's having a fab weekend. Can't believe it's a bank holiday AND sunny, it's so nice!

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 I did think it may to be to do with the vaccine I just hope it's not another super long cycle!

That test lols great to me! Don't forget those ones are not as sensitive as the others

@Marvellouslymadmum I hope it's not a ridiculously long one for you also. Having had the vaccine though is amazing! Thank you I'm just being ridiculous I know because what happens will happen regardless of worrying or wasting money on tests etc...

@Marvellouslymadmum is right the clearblue tests are not sensitive and you're still so early!
It must be the vaccine unless you've had any other changes during the last cycle.. stress or something else?

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 I don't know tbh, when I see a line now I don't feel much of anything as it's terrifying but you probably would have found out one way or another.. when is your period due? Think positively and like you said there's nothing you can do to change the outcome of whatever happens here. If you can hold back you could test every 2 days or wait for a week or so before testing again. I'm not sure at what point you need to contact your doctor, mine said about a week after my period was due if it's still a positive. But the line won't tell you a whole lot now unless it starts to go a lot lighter.

I'm on CD17 and OPK got darker finally today so will hopefully see a peak in the next few days. Loving the sunshine too, makes such a difference when the weather is nicer!

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 you're always going to worry but yes whatever happens will happen regardless of what you do, so try to relax if you can.

@choccrumpet The only other changed this cycle are no soy and no pregnacare as I ran out and haven't got any more yet, so could be something to do with one of those. It's definitely not the first time I've had a wafty cycle though, it's happened a lot 🤷🏼‍♀️
🤞🏻 for your peak and ovulation!

@choccrumpet not due for another 3 days, so I'll just wait and see. Think it's six weeks to self refer to midwife here, from memory last time. So I won't bother them til it's a bit longer.

Yay to ovulation test getting closer to peak! Must feel more energetic with the sun and a bit more romantic after a glass or two of wine also 😁 so good timing.

@Marvellouslymadmum with so many variables so hard to know what to chalk it up to. It's v frustrating though, because a clear answer one way or another as to when exactly you'll ovulate would be appreciated !

@Marvellouslymadmum just thinking pregnacare has inositol one it doesn't it? That helps trigger ovulation apparently also 🤷‍♀️

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 does it? 🤦🏼‍♀️ it could well be that then, actually I started takin it after my last 57 day cycle and they've all been a lot better since then! There was me thinking I may be doing something good this month and instead I could've made things go crazy 😂 I'm online at the moment trying to do a vitamin shop and comparing prices getting very confused 😂 I'll probably order it on Amazon as it'll arrive quickly!

@Marvellouslymadmum yeah sorry only because I did a lot of reading on inositol a couple weeks ago after reading ISWTE 🙈 was thinking about taking it. Its meant to be awesome for egg quality and ovulation if you're irregular, but if regular can lengthen your cycle. Was guessing that's why so many peoples cycles get affected by pregnacare

@Marvellouslymadmum oh yeah vitamin shopping, watch all of your money run away 😂

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 oh that makes sense!! I'm just off to Holland and Barratt now 🙄 bye money 💴 👋🏻

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 I don't suppose you know what doses of everything I'm
Supposed to be taking do you? At the moment I've been taking
Vit b12 500ug
B6 50mg
C 1000mg
D3 25ug
E 400iu
Magnesium 100mg
Folic acid 400ug
Pregnacare conception
Evening primrose
Maca root
Ubiquinol 200mg

Looking for new ubiquinol anyway as run out if that too! 🙄

@Marvellouslymadmum I was going to say surely it's nothing to do with pregnacare but I guess I was wrong 😅 had no idea it had inositol and what that does! I'm taking pregnacare too, wonder if the length of my cycle has anything to do with it 🤷🏼‍♀️

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 im loving the sun! We're having a bbq tomorrow with friends around so have been prepping for that today. And yes the sun helps lighten the mood. How does your partner feel about the positive?

@choccrumpet who knew!! We're your cycles longer or shorter before you started taking the pregnacare?

@Marvellouslymadmum I don't know I was doing it right but I took:

200 iu of vitamin e
100ug of vitamin d
65 mg of iron
1000mg of vit C
400 mg of ubiquinol
600mg NAC
Zita West preconception pills and antioxidant booster

Just the intermediate plan from the ISWTE book really except I didn't top up folic acid as methyl folate is so expensive on its own.

@choccrumpet yeah the weather is soooo good. Off to a bbq this afternoon, but mood is so much better with a little sun!

Magnesium is the spray for me, 4 sprays, I don't know how much is in that