Soy Isoflavones..yay or nay?

[moly39x]

Been doing some research on soy isoflavones & I didn't know what people's opinions are?

I have a 35 day cycle, ovulate between CD17-21 - currently 7th month in of TTC after 1 early loss at 5 week in October.

Do people have any experience with taking them? I read the following on an old thread here about with CD to take them..

My concerns are; I have little/none EWCM (have conceive plus lube) but I get positive OPK every month (temping just stressed me out which I decided would do more harm?!) and I'm sure soy iso is to help ovulate? But now I've read the below, it looks as though it can help the egg. I'm cautious about messing up my cycle so was just looking to hear other people's experience.

Here's the info I've read here (have lots more saved in my notes if people want to see about the dose etc if interest) :)

Thank you x

1-5 = you produce more eggs, and ovulate sooner, with a stronger ovulation.

2-6 = you produce more eggs that usual, but not as many as taking it 1-5. Eggs may be more mature, and ovulation will be slightly more strong than 1-5.

3-7 = The best of both worlds, a few more eggs, and all eggs will be strong & mature, and ovulation will be alot stronger than 1-5.

4-8 = No more eggs will be produced, but the ones already there, will be matured alot more than usual, and ovulation will be very strong. Ovulation may only be brought forward a teeny bit.

5-9 = You'll have one very mature strong egg, from the ones you already produced on your own. Ovulation will either happen when it usually does, or a few days later, but your egg will be of great quality.

@Slk3558 just 75mg!

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 I’m still using the oil - it’s such small amounts I’m not worried about the vitex. I’ve read a few reports that vitex is safe in pregnancy just not encouraged, and sometimes recommended for people with multiple miscarriages. I started using it when it got it in the mail - just have been 3-4 dpo? I managed to convinced my GP to test my progesterone tomorrow so we will see if it’s high enough!

@TheHotelCalifornia @NorthernLass213 OMG congratulations!!! It's so encouraging to hear about your happy news, I hope you're both feeling okay 🤗

@Slk3558 I picked up on the late ovulation too 🤞🏼 I'm cd14 and have ewcm today but it may go and come back again so not getting my hopes up for an earlier ovulation just yet.

In terms of dtd we are taking a different approach this cycle, starting it later this time as we normally get worn out pretty quickly. So if my ewcm stays we'll be starting any day now, my cervix is still closed so will keep an eye on that too. I'm trying not to get too excited about this cycle but I'm feeling mostly positive it's hard not to.

I tried aspirin twice before and it didn't help me but I have seen so many positives of other ladies on it. I might ask my acupuncturist about it next time as she thinks I might have stickier blood so am wondering whether I should try it again.
@Slk3558 official recommendation for aspirin is 150mg, I tried both 75 and 150, it's up to you which one you take of course but even the higher dose shouldn't hurt

@NorthernLass213 progessence sounds super interesting! I'm going to look that up as if nothing else it sounds relaxing

Thanks @NorthernLass213 I'll look that one up also. It makes sense to me to boost estrogen and boost progesterone. And I have worried my progesterone could be a little low

I had an impulsive moment and got a progessence from eBay! It was definitely more expensive than I expected but it mentions lots of general benefits for women so hopefully worth it 🤞🏼 and eBay seemed to have the best price when I looked around without getting a young living membership.

@choccrumpet oh I agree, crazy expensive!!

Oh @TheHotelCalifornia congratulations! I remember you from one of the other threads, I had a mmc around the same time. So happy for you

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 regarding your lack of pms symptoms, not trying to get your hopes up but I would say that’s a good sign! I had zero symptoms when I got my BFPs except a bit of light cramping after implantation ...on the other hand when I didn’t get a BFP I had pms symptoms (sore boobs, back ache etc) ! Do you normally wait for AF or do a sneaky frer before?

@katewitch we are trying anyway lol

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 my temp went up to 36.59 this morning and Lh is on the rise again so I'm guessing my body is having a second go at ovulation and it'll be a long month 🙄

@TheHotelCalifornia yay congratulations!! I do love hearing about the bfp gives me a little hope.

@NorthernLass213 amazing! So pleased for you, this is definitely hopeful! Ive never heard of the progressence, I have heard that wild yams are really good for fertility though

🤞🏻 for sticky beans for you both

I've also seen lots of positives with the baby aspirin too!

@Slk3558 great news! And definitely possible

@Slk3558 don't worry I have hope I'm pregnant every month 😂 Saw my acupuncturist today and she's taking credit for the lack of symptoms. At least you know what to look for for you rather than wasting time analysing each twinge etc!

I normally just follow my chart last few months, rather than test, but I'm out this weekend so will try to test early to see if I can drink. How about you, are you an early tester?

@Marvellouslymadmum hope it's a quick ovulation this time 🤞!

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 well I got a peak this morning, a proper one this time and a tiny bit of ewcm and slight temp dip from yesterday so hopefully it'll rise proper this time and I'll be ovulating today or tomorrow!! Cd21 so way later than the last two months on the soy 🙄🤔

@Marvellouslymadmum yay! Perfect timing tho this month for you and your partner 🤞
Hmm that's strange also. If this isn't the month for you, will you take soy again next month? I was thinking about getting my day 3 and day 21 tests next month so avoiding soy, but having seen the positives on here this week plus the two on another thread, I'm wondering about postponing the tests and doing another month. Maybe along with the progessence

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 it was definitely good timing! I'm really not sure what to do next month, I need to get some more ubiquinol and other vits, I may do soy again next month depending what the doc decides what to test next time 😂 I'm going to look into the progesence too

@Marvellouslymadmum yep I'm running low on vitamins again also 😬 I'll have a think on it also, have another week to decide. Good luck for this weekend 😁

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 thanks! If the gp doesn't want any tests I may give it a go

I'm cd15 today and getting lots of ewcm, OPKs are still low but I think my cervix is starting to open so i might actually ovulate earlier this month 🤞🏼apps are predicting CD18 but that's not based on much. So potentially soy and acupuncture are helping to straighten out my cycle

@Marvellouslymadmum yay for ovulation!! Day 21 isn't too bad although I empathise with the frustration that it's later than normal, hopefully you'll see the temp rise now 🤞🏼

Hi al, Jumping in here as trying SI this cycle, on CD1 now after a 38 day cycle where I couldn't pick up ovulation...never really had any EWCM, cycles all over the shop so going to see how I get on. Gonna try 120mg cd 2-6

First cycle using SI. I'm now 12dpo had really strong ovulation symptoms day 17/18 and symptoms in the last week have been really heavy boobs, had a super emotional day (cried at work very embarrassing and unlike me) I want to test because we're going away today for a staycation but after so many cycles and 2 chemical I'm scared to test 😭 usually I can't stopped myself POAS as my cycles are so irregular and long I convince myself I'm going to get my BFP every month

@gimmeavino good luck! Would recommend pink grapefruit juice in the week before ovulation, really helped with my cm.

@Frankie2015 totally sympathise it's horrible looking at negatives or analysis for lines. Do you think of you don't test before your break, you'll be working or thinking about it a lot?

@choccrumpet no temp rise 😫 it went down again yesterday! If it doesn't start to climb over the weekend I don't have a clue what's going on 🤷🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

@gimmeavino hi and good luck with the si!

@Frankie2015 hi, I totally understand not wanting to test, I feel exactly the same.

I tested yesterday 8dpo and got the faintest line I thought I was imagining it. Tested this morning and it's a bit darker 😬

@Marvellouslymadmum this must be a really exhausting month with so much sex! I can't believe it's not gone up

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 omg, it looks like such a good line!! Hoping it's a sticky one for you!! How are you feeling?

@Marvellouslymadmum that's super frustrating :(

@gimmeavino good luck with the soy!

@Frankie2015 I know what you mean, I can't stop myself testing so I just do it every cycle 🙈

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 forgot to say - congratulations!! I'm so excited for you!!

@choccrumpet thanks so much, I'm trying not to be at all excited, just because you know it could not work out again 🤷‍♀️ I think the acupuncture has really helped though, and it's just nice to get to the stage of a line again after months without anything, whatever happens x