Soy Isoflavones..yay or nay?

[moly39x]

Been doing some research on soy isoflavones & I didn't know what people's opinions are?

I have a 35 day cycle, ovulate between CD17-21 - currently 7th month in of TTC after 1 early loss at 5 week in October.

Do people have any experience with taking them? I read the following on an old thread here about with CD to take them..

My concerns are; I have little/none EWCM (have conceive plus lube) but I get positive OPK every month (temping just stressed me out which I decided would do more harm?!) and I'm sure soy iso is to help ovulate? But now I've read the below, it looks as though it can help the egg. I'm cautious about messing up my cycle so was just looking to hear other people's experience.

Here's the info I've read here (have lots more saved in my notes if people want to see about the dose etc if interest) :)

Thank you x

1-5 = you produce more eggs, and ovulate sooner, with a stronger ovulation.

2-6 = you produce more eggs that usual, but not as many as taking it 1-5. Eggs may be more mature, and ovulation will be slightly more strong than 1-5.

3-7 = The best of both worlds, a few more eggs, and all eggs will be strong & mature, and ovulation will be alot stronger than 1-5.

4-8 = No more eggs will be produced, but the ones already there, will be matured alot more than usual, and ovulation will be very strong. Ovulation may only be brought forward a teeny bit.

5-9 = You'll have one very mature strong egg, from the ones you already produced on your own. Ovulation will either happen when it usually does, or a few days later, but your egg will be of great quality.

@choccrumpet yes my luteal phase was shorter before, so 9-10 days would be about right for that unfortunately 😬

@Marvellouslymadmum that’s strange if it’s different for you

Hi all, I thought I should update this group after my last post. I got a positive FRER last week and am hopefully around 5 weeks now. Obviously it may have been a coincidence as we'd been trying for six months so could have just been our month. However, having only had a positive OPK once before trying the soy, I really do think it made a difference. I took 70mg, 105mg, 140mg, 140mg, 175mg on days 3-7 (they were 35mg capsules from Boots). Good luck everyone, hope it goes well for you.

@Sadcatsandcoffee congratulations! That’s lovely news

@Sadcatsandcoffee can i ask, did you finally get a positive temp on them confirming ovulation this cycle also?

[quote A1b2c3d4e5f6g7]@Sadcatsandcoffee can i ask, did you finally get a positive temp on them confirming ovulation this cycle also?[/quote]
Yes I did! My BBT had been hovering around 97.8 for about 5 days from CD10- CD15 (the day I got the static smiley), CD16 it dropped to 97.5, then back up to 97.8 on CD17 and right up to 98 on CD18. I guessed at ovulation happening on CD16? I tried really hard to take my temp at the same time every morning and that really helped to see a pattern, because the difference in actual numbers is so small!

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 it is different for me, I normally get ov pain and cramps, I'm now getting this funny twingy feeling around and under my belly button 😳

@Sadcatsandcoffee yay congratulations! That gives me a bit of hope!

@Sadcatsandcoffee amazing! Huge congratulations to you ♥️

@Sadcatsandcoffee that’s brilliant! @Marvellouslymadmum that sounds interesting potentially!!!!

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 I'm not getting my hopes up lol I had these symptoms before but hey ho we will see! How are you doing?

Just coming with an updated, TMI but if we can't share it amongst other crazy TTC friends, where can we? I had a positive OPK yesterday (the highest I've ever had by 0.5) and today I've had EWCM, looking back over the last year I've definitely never noticed it like this before. I just don't accept it's a coincidence, it must be the SI. I'm more than likely out for this cycle as DH is unwell, but I'll definitely be taking the SI for the next - that ones got to be my getting pregnant cycle! Did anyone else notice changes like that?

@Marvellouslymadmum I’m trying to ignore anything positive or negative also! 🙈 just quietly wait.....

@Twiggywinkle13 I’ve noticed darker and earlier opks, but no change to cervical mucous I don’t think

@Twiggywinkle13 I haven't really noticed a difference in cm either I'm afraid

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 that's me too just sitting here quietly waiting waiting waiting lol

Congratulations @Sadcatsandcoffee !

@Twiggywinkle13 my ewcm seems normal with no changes, maybe it's more peaky in texture. My OPK was the darkest I've had it, with a higher ratio according to premom. I think I'm also out this month, haven't been able to bd around my peak.

@choccrumpet me too - I don’t think it’s just a coincidence that these things happened! Next month is our month for BFP’s for sure!

That’s interesting a few of us are having darker opks on it. I won’t take it this next cycle as I having bloods taken and dr asked me to stop taking anything except preconception vitamin. So I’ll let you know if my cycle changes back suddenly!
My period hasn’t arrived yet despite tinged cm the last couple days. Due tomorrow, and this would be a 12 day luteal phase again, so fairly consistent to last month on soy. But I didn’t have the tinged cm last cycle, it started the day before period

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 it will definitely be interesting to see if there’s a change when not taking it.

It's crazy what a difference it seems to be making for you all! Hopefully this can only mean good things for our cycles and PFPs all round...!

Currently on CD12 here and now have EWCM and twinges that could well be ovary-based... currently holding my pee for an OPK at 2pm, which is easier said than done as I usually drink loads and pee hourly

We have been DTD EOD, I have warned DH that this may go on for 3 weeks while I wait for a positive OPK which he seems happy about, I may die if it takes that long...!

*BFPs, obviously...

@katewitch you might get lucky this month and just have a few days if ewcm is already here 😂

I'm starting my first cycle in SI today, I have regular 28 days cycles but no strong ovulation signs at all.... gonna start tonight (day 2) with 80mg. Hopefully it doesn't mess my cycles up. Anyone else have regular cycles but using soy ?

@ploopypleepy yes me, my cycles were 30 days, I’ve taken it two cycles and it has reduced them down to 26 day cycles, but with ovulation on CD14 for both (temps and I also use opks)

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 do you ovulate stronger (if that makes sense) than when you didn't take them?

@ploopypleepy I don’t really know. I had a MC in October and my cycles were very weird after - consistently shorter with a late ovulation and short literal phase. I feel like the soy rebooted them in a way. I didn’t opk before the miscarriage, but after I did and I wasn’t having very strong or clear positives. With the soy I had strong positives a lot earlier. I now temp also so can see I’m ovulating also - was worried I wasn’t because of weak opk

*luteal

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 that's good that you are having strong positive OPK's though. I also had a mc in October so I was wondering if I have even ovulated since then. I'm going to start doing OPK's this month too.