The July '19ers - knocked down, but never beaten

[Frazzlerock]

Hey @TinselBee, @Rose68, @BettySwoll0cks

Here is the thread I promised us.

Somewhere for us to help eachother, pick one another up, cry, scream, laugh..

Some of us may be looking to try again, some may be putting things on hold. Whatever our plans, lets get through this together.

(I don't know whether conception was the right choice of topic, I can always have this moved to a more suitable topic if anyone would like me to)

I will look through our threads again and see if I can @mention anyone else who might like to join us

I wish I was trying to be funny... feeling egg shell goop has become my life!!
I remember when new shoes got me this excited!!

I've got another high day on CBFM too (day 15!)
IC's are supposed to test for LH surge... I have one step ones now and the control line is much lighter than the other ones I had... still no surge tho

Did a HPT as getting impatient to wait for dr results of blood work (I know it's been 2 days!) and I don't think it could BE more negative (in the style of Chandler Bing!) so FX Ov will turn up at some point!! (Ring tip to focus works a treat btw!!)

Frazzle I have read that grapefruit juice pre Ov helps with FJ.... I hate it but going to get some!!

@rachey killing my self laugh at the scrambled egg/ fanny juice! And @rose aww I know I wish we were all on here for another reason aswell. In regards to the scan I thought they were a waste of money last time but I would have to have one next time. I just can’t understand how I could be 12 weeks but they told me the baby had stopped at7/8 weeks. I kept and still do keep asking myself how could I not have known for that long? So next time will be doing one at about nine weeks I think

@prosecco
I doubt it was that long, your baby may have grown slowly
As I said my baby hb stopped between 8+6 and 9+4 days ..... but it measured 5+6. It grew slowly, it didn’t die at 5+6... it was still very much beating at 8+5 but was too small. I don’t know if that’s any comfort to you but I really doubt your baby had died so early xx

@Frazzlerock hello dpo sister! Do you think you will test before AF is due to come? x

Same with me Prosecco, once it dies I think it starts to shrink really quickly, in some cases at least. From one scan to another (one week) mine lost its hb and didn't grow at all and then a couple of days later it was gone completely (the Dr may have been able to see it if she looked but to me all I saw was an empty sac). My belief is that it died very shortly before the second scan, maybe a day or two.

The same could definitely have happened to you.

Rose I wish we weren't still TTC either. Should be chatting about our growing babies 😔

@Kinsters yes indeed we should. I had a quick look at the July thread this morning which was incredibly stupid of me. I have mostly come to terms with what happened now, but sometimes I really don’t help myself.

It's all so variable. Mine didn't start growing at all until 7wks (my scan showed gest sac & yolk but no fetal pole) then it grew 4mm and showed a hb, and then it died. Too little too late I guess. I think I would have an early scan at 8 weeks maybe, but even if it was good news, it wouldn't put my mind at rest for long.

I wouldn’t have one prior to 7 as it’s all too easy for them to say ‘we might not see it yet’ and ‘that’s normal’
At 8 it’s clear what we should be seeing and that’s why I’ll -try to- wait until then x

Rose I haven't looked at that thread. Couldn't bear to. I did hold a 7 month old baby at NYE though and last night had a really vivd dream about holding my own lovely chubby baby girl and it felt so nice and then I woke up. Really hope I get to feel that for real soon!

I can't help but look at that thread every now and then. Also can't help but keep comparing myself to my friends that are also due in june/July

Regarding the growth thing, growth stopped for me at time of the car crash, never saw any more growth. Keep thinking how I could have gone blissfully unaware for a further 4 weeks as that's when my body finally started bleeding.

When are those in TWW planning on testing? I don't know whether to hold out for when AF would be due judging by FF or test before

@Rose68 I will hold out until AF is due. I tested at 14dpo last time and even then I was reluctant. The problem is my 2nd loss I started MCing on the day we got our BFP so I like to leave it as long as possible. As Ovu says I ov'd 2 days later than FF, I will go with that and test maybe 14 days after that. But I probably won't get that far as I'm sure AF will show up. But I'd rather than then see a BFN
How about you?

@TwittleBee I'll test on or after 16th Jan which, oddly, I've just seen I still have an entry in my calendar for my second midwife appointment 😢 Maybe that's a sign I should test then (not that I believe in all that bollocks)

Re baby measurements, I know Popsy shrunk as my scans proved it. And we got a HB only a week before we found out he'd died. And even then he was smaller than at my first scan. So baby was shrinking but heart was clearly growing which I thought was weird.

Frazzle it's bollocks but you got the 888th post of the thread, that's a lucky number in Chinese culture! My fil loves the number 8 s o much we all have to have a specific combination in our vehicle number plates (my car and DH's bike) 😂. We'll be needing a new thread soon!

I'm a serial tester and will be poas from 6dpo...

Oooh! I like the sound of that @Kinsters !

Haha yeah I just happened to notice the number on the front page and had to see who got that post!

My temps are a lot smoother around ovulation than my previous preg cycle. Does that mean anything to the temp experts in this group?

I think smooth temps are a good thing. Anecdotally when I'd just got my coil out (and I guess hormones were maybe a bit out of whack) my temps were really not smooth but once my periods came back the temps were nice and smooth and I got pregnant quickly.

I try to hold out until AF is due, but I don’t always make it. If I feel certain I’m not pregnant I won’t test, but if I have any doubts I will struggle not to. Last time I tested on 10dpo and got a clear line. xxx

I haven't looked at the July thread but I was thinking about it on my home today but have decided I couldn't bear it and therefore I won't look.

I have full on period pain today which is quite literally a pain. I have spots on my china and I want to eat everything. Which is not good as today is the first day that I am trying to eat less and eat well! I have just had a slice of cheese!

I have been giggling away reading today's entries on the thread!! FJ........thanks all for cheering me up!

spots on my chin, not my "china" - not a euphemism for anything - although I agree about the number 8 - lucky you @frazzlerock*!

Take that as a sign Frazzle especially with the 888!!!!! FX

Oh well Thanks everybody for that, i’m hoping It was the case that the baby shrank after it died. Because I was torturing myself thinking back to what I could have been doing at eight weeks, and trying to think f there’s anything i did or didn’t do that could have effected it. Also thinking was I I’ll should I have noticed etc. I know they say there’s nothing you did that could have caused it but I think you can’t help but question yourself.
I’m still waiting for Af to arrive and then starting ttc from next cycle. Wish it would bloody hurry up. Looking forward to seeing what happens during the tww wait for everyone! Got everything crossed

Bloody hell, large glass of wine in my hand right now after this evening's events. DH was admitted with suspected meningitis, straight on IV drips. He looked like he was on death's door. I had to stay with DS so MIL went up there with him. Whilst I was waiting to put DS to bed so my DDad could babysit whilst I make it up to see DH, I was getting texts from MiL about how it's because DH is overworked!?!? URGH! Feel like she's always bringing up how DH needs to relax as he work (errr so do I?). She's so bloomin traditionalist. Like I need this argument whilst DH was on death's door! Anyway he was given all clear from meningitis so MIL leaves and as DS settles to sleep I manage to get over to DH. I had to walk past a load of labouring women and then past where I had the D&C so I was an emotional wreck by time I reachesd his ward. When I get ther, I find he is in quarantine because they haven't a clue what's wrong with him. I had to declare I'm not pregnant and that I'll follow protocols when leaving his room to ensure I do not spread anything (nevermind I've been living with him....?) He looks awful. All hooked up. They reckon he will be fine, need to do loads of tests though and see what is causing it all. DH then enlightens me how MIL is pissed off because she only just realised, when seeing his notes, he also took the double barrel surname when we married (she thought only I did and he kept his last name the same!). She thinks I twisted him to take it and how barbaric and wrong it is to change a man's name etc, and she doesn't even think it's legal! She is crazy sometimes, why argue over it over his sick bed ffs! Obviously on top of this, my own health issues haven't gone away, if anything they've worsened. It feels like my hips and below have been submerged into ice, even wearing clothes hurts the skin. If anyone touches my leg I swear I'd probably punch them. Looks like a long night with DS being unsettled. I've a full day of work tomorrow with a lot of annoying meetings. So yes, I'm drinking a large glass of red tonight. I'm only 6dpo and tbh doubt I'll get lucky this cycle as I'm so bloomin ill and stressed.

Apologies for offloading! Just needed to vent!

Oh my @TwittleBee !!
You don't think you both have the same do you?? It's strange you are both so poorly??

FX he gets better soon. Couldn't you take the day off tomorrow??

MILs are there to be pains is the arse
Mine thinks her children can do no wrong either!!

I hope you both feel better soon.
I took my boat load of supplements and vits this eve with a glass of rum and coke too if that helps

Keep us updated x

Oh Twittle, that sounds dreadful! Poor him and poor you. I thought the same as Rachy in that you might both have the same thing. I wouldn’t worry about a glass of wine. I was out drinking last night too. Fingers crossed whatever it is passes quickly and you both recover soon. xxx