Morning,
I've missed a whole day after my wobble yesterday morning! Thank you all for having my back 
This is likely to be long so brace yourselves!
@Kinsters Your temp is looking great! You might still be in your fertile window too so keep BDing!
@BettySwoll0cks I don't know how charting works if you keep getting woken up. I know Ovu needs 4 hours consecutive sleep to get the temp accurate. But, as Kinsters says, try a cycle and see?
@ratherbeshowjumping I'm impressed by your turkey baster attempts! I think DP would lose his shit with me if I suggested that! I love that your DH is so willing to try at least. He is clearly 100% on board with this TTC malarky. Re vitamins, I haven't dared ask DP to take anything, though I have told him that Vitamin D spray and Feroglobin is good for him (not on a TTC level, just generally) so I often give him spray of my Vit D and a spoonful of Feroglobin.
@TwittleBee I'm sorry you're feeling so crap. I don't know much about allergies. Weird you're not usual allergic to anything though, maybe second opinion with the GP on Monday might confirm whether this is true or not?
Re your chart yesterday morning, I also put in EWCM (got it after having a poo but now I think that was just random 'poo function' EWCM - god this is so gross) and got the dotted lines. SOo I removed the EWCM and put back to 'creamy' which is what I'd entered for that day originally, and solid lines are back. BTW, 'm so pleased you don't have shingles, I've heard it is awful. Though DS1 had it just after our first MC and he all he had was the tell tale rash line around his middle, no other symptoms. His GP was really excited to see shingles in a child 
I think it is quite unusual.
Wow, look at that temp this morning! I am not sure that allergies affect temp, do they?
@smerlin re risks of caffeine, I've not yet read the articles you've found (will do in a bit) but I have avoided it in all my pregnancies (actually went off the taste of it anyway, but would have stopped regardless) and, as of this cycle, I have stuck to de-caff on @Rose's recommendation, given I have PCOS and I am old 
I doubt I could get DP to part with caffeine.
@Rachyrach83 Our DP/DHs really do sound very similar "But his comes out in temper and flying off the handle...." - this is very much my DP too. I have also been on ADs in the couple of years we weren't TTC after losing our second. I was in a terrible way, suicidal at times. After seeing the GP, I slowly weaned myself off ADs when DP agreed to try again in June. I've not touched them since and don't miss them either, but my depression was 100% entirely down to DP refusing to try again. So it was easy for me to snap out of it once he agreed. It was pretty much instant.
My DP was also angry at me after I had our second scan. I knew something wasn't right but, because we'd seen a heartbeat, he refused to trust my instinct and trusted the sonographer that my dates were out and I didn't ovulate when I thought. Funny I turned out to be right... Though wish I hadn't been. At that time I was an emotional wreck as I knew our baby wouldn't survive and he just couldn't get on my level.
"Re CM I swear Its like someone chucked sand on it" - sorry but this made me laugh, I have this same feeling when everyone is talking about EWCM and I'm over here like this 
I've never heard of Kindara, how does that compare to the FF?
BTW, I just remembered we were due the same day (28th June) and both had our dates pushed back.
I don't know about that device but I checked reviews last night and all seems good! I hope it arrives and I'd be interested to hear your experience with it. Too bad for the seller if they can't put a reasonable starting bid in. That's their own fault!
@princessbala I'm so sorry you're struggling so much and you have to wait until tests have been done. I would be struggling too if I had to wait. TTC is keeping me afloat! We are also due to go to the RMC in February but no one has told us not to TTC in the meantime. We started trying again as soon as I stopped bleeding.
@Rose68 Funny you should say that about being well up for it around ov. I was exactly like that this time around, but then I am always up for it, just that the need was even more increased! I think I need to check into a sex clinic (like Russell Brand) for my addiction
How are you today, DPO Sister?
@Kinsters I don't know about FF tampering, I only started using it this cycle after seeing so many of you using it (and it was free of course). I can't tamper with Ovu as it syncs automatically. But it literally only goes on core temp and no other symptoms.
@edidxb agree with the others, 30 day cycle is perfect so soon after MC. Go you! Fx for a fresh new cycle x
Thank you for all the support re my melodrama yesterday morning. The thing is it depended on either FF or Ovusense whether I was still in my fertile window or not. FF has said I had Ov'd two days before Ovusense predicted. Ovu was saying I was still very much in my fertile window so I wanted to get BDing as much as poss in that time just in case. DP said it can wait until tomorrow (Saturday) so I think I should probably explain about the 24 hour window.
Still after feeling all weepy early Saturday morning, I went upstairs to DP who had finally woken up and we had a little chat. I explained regardless of TTC I have a high sex drive so it really wasn't all about that. He said he knew that and that he thinks he has a low sex drive. I didn't want to rock the boat by explaining the 24 window so, now we are back on form (and finally out of my ov window!) I might have a little chat about our chances and PCOS/age etc.
Betty he seems on board with trying and knows it keeps me out of that black hole I was in, he knows it makes me happy and that is ultimately what he wants. I do think that he wants a baby too (especially after seeing a heart beat for the first tie ever of something he created) but he has real paranoia about the way of the world and if we are irresponsible bring a child into this world. He's even more hyper aware since the stabbing on the train in the news yesterday.
Kinster He could see I was in my fertile window on Ovusense, but he doesn't know that FF had predicted ovulation a coupe of days before.
Anyway, we BDd yesterday and we Bd'd on both predictions of ovulation so hopefully we are covered...
I've had terrible back ache for ten days now, I've no idea what brought it on, it started so gradually. Got GP appointment on Monday so hopefully I can get some physio. It's lower right side, no clue what it could be. I only ever get mild back ache around ovulation or AF but not like this! It's a real stabbing pain.
Re other people's comments, I've certainly had my share and it sucks massively. Especially if it is from someone who you wouldn't expect.
Re scans, I honestly don't know. If I avoid them I don't think I can allow myself to be blissfully unaware but, at the same time, what is the point? They only show if baby is okay in that moment. I don't know.
Good news, our internet is back and I have another even higher temp at 36.89 which is the highest it got in my preg cycle