Over 40 ttc - Autumn baby dust for me!

[Orchid222]

Here's our new thread, let's hope it's a lucky one!

Hmmm - depends on what day you ovulate. It should be 7 days after ovulation

AF arrived today! Making the shortest cycle ever - 23 days! And my IVF drugs haven't even been couriered to me yet! Should be here on Wednesday and I could start injections on Thursday. All to confirm with my doctor tomorrow. Interesting times ahead! I'm trying to work our scans over here and then fly home to my clinic for egg collection and transfer. A few logistics involved, I must admit. But determined to get there in the end! And hoping for the positive outcome!

@Russkispy .... I hope you get there soon..... your positivity and determination is inspiring

Fingers crossed for you russkispy!

Good luck Russkispy! Are you on a short protocol that you're starting around the beginning of your cycle? I'm on long so started yesterday around ovulation time.
Lets- when are you starting, can you squeeze it in before Christmas?

Anyone know about gonal f??

@Orchid222 , I believe it's just stimulated IVF, starting injections between 2-5 of my cycle. Hoping to get Gonal tomorrow and start on Thursday, cd4. To stimulate follicles. Booked 3 scans next week. And flying home next weekend. Egg collection is booked for the 3rd and embryo transfer on the 8th. I'm curious to see how my body responds to Gonal this time and for so long. In one of my IUIs, I needed to use Gonal 2 days in a row. It was fine. No side effects and results were great. Fingers crossed. And fingers are crossed for you!

@Presh12345 , I used Gonal 2 days in one of my IUIs. And I'm waiting for Gonal pens now to start IVF process on Thursday.

Started reading 'it starts with the egg' and I wish I hadn't as now I'm freaking out about flipping BPA, it's in everything and near impossible to not have, unless you live on a pure diet of fresh fruit & veg only (impossible when you have children, and hard work if you don't) and never have anything plastic in the house (again, impossible) arrrggghh!! Boo hoo!!

Russkispy you're definitely on a different protocol to me! I've started already but my transfer will be some time after yours. We'll good luck to us both!

@Cleozeta , that's how I felt when I finished reading the hat book! It's absolutely impossible to follow in some ways. But you have other options and stick with them! Supplements and balanced diet. I'm sure it's equally effective.
@Orchid222 , I'll keep you posted

Good luck Russkispy and Orchid x

Wishing..how are you feeling?
My ovarian pain has gone now. Just the run-down to the inevitable AF now.

DH has just found he has an interview for a teaching training course at uni with a bursary attached. Praying he gets the placement..but too scared to hope too much! There's a lot resting on it

Cleo, Ive not read that book and dont think i want too as id become obsessive!
Awaiting af to strike, feeling the hormone headache beginning as I type. Timing has been out again! Ideas on supplements please...though i feel just about ready to knock it all on the head.

Cleo- is the book generally useful? I still haven't got round to ordering it. Are there any simple changes we can make that don't involve abolishing plastic in all forms from our lives??!!! I think no nail varnish was one I'd heard of which sounded fairly manageable (but what about Christmas ahhhh I love to treat myself to nice festive nails as a treat!)

Fingers crossed it goes well Booseys!

Thanks Orchid

@BooseysMom feeling ok thanks bit very nervous. I didn't have my scan in the end they told me not to. I did however manage to get some cyclogest which I started last night.
Getting lots of tummy stretching and pulling so assume that's a good sign.
Have a long wait to 6 week scan.

Fingers crossed for your OH job interview then :-)

My best friend has had 2 failed IVF so far. She's been trying for longer than me and never caught naturally. Don't want to upset her do you guys think I should not tell her until 12 weeks or share it with her? I was there through every step of her IVF journey and I know she appreciated it hugely..

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Petra - not sure how useful it is yet, just getting through the BPA stuff, which is not useful as it's completely impossible to follow. No plastic, no tinned food. It's even in till receipts, although I don't plan on eating those.
The book does talk a lot about older ladies from the start, so I'll be interested to read the other stuff, I'm hoping it'll have info on suppliments and other things that I can actually follow. Not just cry everytime I eat a sausage roll from a plastic wrapper.

Wishing - maybe tell her, as she may guess anyway if you are not drinking etc. If you were there for her I'm sure she will want to do the same for you.

Thanks Cleozeta I just don't want to upset her but you're right she will want to be there for me x

Hi all, so much to catch up on! Sorry for those who are out this month.

Booseys - hope all goes well for your OH.

Wishing, maybe wait for your scan and then tell her? I guess it depends on your relationship.... I’m struggling at the moment with baby bombs:(
Sorry that’s not very helpful.

Mini - what have you tried so far in the way of diet/supps and treatments? I’m currently on:
Ubiquinol
Multi vitamins + extra Bs, E and C
EPO up to ovulation
Cod liver oil
Vitamin D spray
Magnesium spray.

I’ve stopped Royal Jelly (& dairy and flax/soy) as I’m trying to avoid anything which is oestrogenic as I’ve been reading about the effects and apparently the plant oestrogens actually cause your body to stop producing it’s own natural oestrogen. Oh and I’m also having acupuncture which I’m enjoying a lot and drinking the ‘yummy tea’!

Cleo your sausage roll comment made me laugh out loud! It’s so hard isn’t it. It’s almost impossible to avoid plastics altogether but I guess we can try to limit our exposure. Plastic water bottles are easy to replace with glass or stainless steel. Food packaging is a hard one though. Do you fancy a book swap when you’ve finished with it?? I’ve got a library of fertility books....

I did unintentionally buy a BPA free water bottle a few months ago when I had no idea what BPA was, other than that it is impossible to avoid, as everything contains it. Even down to baked beans. Most foods are wrapped in some kind of plastic if not tinned. Even a lot of the fresh veg & fruit I buy comes wrapped in plastic. If I followed it to the letter I'd have to just start growing my own fruit & veg to live off with nothing else. And get rid of everything plastic in the house (there wouldn't be much left) and my 5 year old would be eating off a china plate. That would be exciting.

Yes definitely up for a book swap, I'm just going to try not to take certain parts of this one too seriously I think!

Goodness busy day for me and busy day on here... good luck to all those starting injections, tests etc..
fingers 🤞 @BooseysMom for DH interview and hope af doesn't hit..
BPA is a scary one, but I'm not sure what we can do to completely eliminate it from our lives.. although the generations who first had cans still popped out little ones late in life and those cans probably weren't as safe as they are now.. @PetraRabbit I stopped using nail varnish in January but I think there is a good vegan range on line and Holland and Barrett have healthy nail varnishes too.. @WishingonaStar77 if you were in your friends position would you want to no now or at 12 week scan? It's a tough one..

hope I've covered everyone baby dust to all xxx

Hi all,

Good luck to everyone starting treatment this month. Wishing fingers crossed for you x

So I’m a bit confused now. I have started the ovulation tests this month. I’m running two checking apps and both suggest ovulation today but obviously they are worked on dates rather than the actual tests. I’m cycle day 12 have had oestrogen surge for the past 5 days but still no LH surge. Had A few signs yesterday to suggest I was ovulating. DH was waiting for LH surge but couldn’t wait any longer so dtd last night. Woke up this morning still no LH surge 😞 feel like it was a wasted try last night now as DH struggles if its less than 3-4 days in between. I know we should be dtd everyday or at least every other day but he just can’t. Worried I may not even be ovulating now. Clinic appointment today to get time frame on treatment and find out when I can start. Not sure if I should pay for tube scan first to check ? They seem to only do this after you’ve signed up where other clinics do FSH first 🤷‍♀️