Over 40 ttc - Autumn baby dust for me!

[Orchid222]

Here's our new thread, let's hope it's a lucky one!

Presh its a horrible waiting game, but you arent out until you're out. Im tempted to look into IUI mainly due to age. Im cd 21 today, bfn but could only be 8/9 dpo. Few symptoms that could be normal pre af, a bad cold starting or by some miracle a possible pregnancy...who knows 🙄 my main reason for having a little hope is the elevation in my rhr on the fitbit. It stayed pretty static at 64 until 6dpo (higher than ususal anyway) then has climbed up yesterday and today and is currently 67 which it never has been before. Now I know its unlikely to be anything preg related and more likely to be due to the actual cold but its making this 2ww interesting.

Okay, so Sat was ovulation day Presh..Got it. So if day 14 is ovulation day, then day 29/first day of missed period would be 18th. I've had a few transfers with IVF and every hour that passes takes so long when you're waiting.

My husband would not want to go down the IVF path again so I'm just hoping for one of those 'oops, I'm pregnant' moments. I would really love to just forget it as I feel stress is a big factor for me, but it's hard to forget when you get a monthly cycle and know that in the middle of the cycle you need to be baby dancing while your ovulating... how is one supposed to forget??

Sorry Presh. I didn't notice your last comment when I typed above. So AF was due Tuesday... 10 days past ovulation... is that normal for your cycle?

Hi minime. Just joined this group. I'm quickly being reminded of what TTC is like when I read your post!! Knowing when you ovulate, counting down the TWW, paying attention to all details like elevated RHR. I truly want to not go down this path, but I don't know how not to with a monthly cycle to live by.

Presh - did you have a medicated iui cycle? Fingers crossed its just a late bfp

Shellster - I am trying for number 3 too. I've also had those feelings but have decided sod it, who's business is it anyway! This is what we want for our family, this is what we'll continue to try for.
Minime - I worked out I was pregnant last cycle (chemical unfortunately) because of raised rpr on my ava. Fingers crossed for you!

Thought I’d pop on and give you a nice positive story. After 6 years of not doing anything to stop it and tbh giving up, finally we are pregnant at 43 & 43, first baby for him, 5th for me 😱

@5fivestar congratulations there is hope ! I’m hoping for a surge (at 40) in eggs 🤣🤣🤣 as they say just that one perfect egg will do me.

It only takes 1 !
We did nothing different this time, if anything we were worst than usual, pickled it in gin and cigarettes poor thing. It seems to be pure luck

@Cleo yes it was medicated. Had Femara for 5 days at start then monitoring then trigger shot then iui. After iui I have taken progesterone tablets twice a day, baby aspirin and progesterone gel.

@shell yes my cycle is 24 days. However according to all apps, I was supposed to be ovulating earlier. With taking the femara and the trigger, I was only ovulating around CD 14.

Head is pickled. I feel so ill and tired, like my body is giving up. I've no energy. I'm assuming it is the tablets doing this.

Last night I felt like I had done 100 sit ups.....I hadn't!!!

Congrats to @five-star lovely news!!xx

Nice to meet you Cleo. See, just when I am saying I'd love to forget it and just have sex without counting days and temps and checking CM, here you are 5star with a story about not being obsessed and giving up when it happens for you!! I'm so happy for you, just wish I could adopt that mindset.

Presh, wish there was something I could say to make this easier for you. Does the clinic have you do a blood test on a set date?

@shell yes I have bloods at 9am Saturday. I'm not expecting any success to be honest as I think how I feel is down to the meds. I just want to stop the meds so AF can come and see if we can get another IUI cycle in before I head home for Christmas. (Don't live in UK)

Presh - when do you need to stop the progesterone?

Guys can I just ask a question -sorry my head is spinning with so much info at the moment.

So I have been advised by the clinic to do ICSI on the basis I’m 40. Now bearing in mind no scan done yet ( sorry I’m not used to all the abbreviations yet) they have just gone straight in for ICSI, partners test was fine more than fine he has supersperm 🤦‍♀️ So I’m wondering why they are saying this?

@Realitysucks I dont know why they would say thisunless the6 just want more money out of you. All my DHs results came back normal and the clinic advised us not to bother with ICSI which is mainly for when there are issues with the sperm. First cycle we did had 100% fertilisation rate so they said definitely no need to do ICSI on second cycle. I am the same age as you....

@critterTamer thanks my sister said the same. They are saying due to age and AMH of 4 which I’m now starting to realise is not that low compared to some people’s! That the shell of the egg will be harder due to age 🧐 but it’s like 1k more !

@Realitysucks they are right to say the egg shells may be harder, but this affects embryo hatching rather than fertilisation and can be overcome with assisted hatching. In my first cycle we had 100% fertilisation rate and the two embryos transferred did have thick shells so they did assisted hatching.

I would say your clinic is after extra money - personally if your DHs sperm is great i would refuse ICSI for your first attempt and see what fertilisation rate you get. If the rate is poor and the first cycle fails (as most do) you could try ICSI on the next cycle.

Hi guys, just thought I'd update. Took another test Tues morning and the line was there but definitely fainter.. and the first time was with evening urine!
Tested again this morning test definitely BFN.
Could be another early chemical or could have been leftover from last month's chemical? But I was barely 5 weeks so couldn't have had that much left by now surely?!
Anyway onwards and upwards..
Welcome to the new ladies x

@WishingonaStar77 not out till af arrives..
@Realitysucks there have been several articles in the papers about clinics charging couples for unnecessary procedures and tests..
Can't remember who it was that missed out on kylie concert last time because they hoped to be preggo.. 2019 concert tickets on sale tomorrow!!! Go for it..
@Shellster52 you would think!! But no sadly but are opting for a relaxed dtd.. just regularly throughout the month..
@Presh12345 keeping my fingers crossed and @5fivestar congratulations!!!

Welcome Shell! No judgement here, also ttc number 3.

Wishing - sorry it’s turned to a bfn. But maybe just maybe.....

Cleo- im CD41! So I’m praying it’s the beginning of a proper follicular phase. Still feeling bit better, hot flashes almost gone the last two days, praying hard. It’s a full moon in one week so it’d make me very happy to ovulate then:)

Presh - sorry you’re feeling so rubbish and for the bfn:( Perhaps it’s still too early tho. If you actually ovulated more like the Sunday or Monday despite having the iui on the Sat you’d still only be 11/12 dpo?

Mini - fingers are tightly crossed here for you 🤞 x

5fivestar - thanks for the encouragement and congratulations! Can I ask, are your periods still regular?

Presh, I took progesterone the cycle BEFORE my IVF cycle (as well as in the IVF cycle). Somewhere in all my research, I read that a strong luteal phase is good for the developing follicles for the following cycle. So if you are feeling down and out and wanting to move forward to plan B of trying again, you can think of this as prepping your follicles that are now developing for next cycle.

littlemimosa - yeah my periods were 28 days

@Orchid @Chatbash72 @Cleozeta @Taxgirl @presh

Thank you all and I hope everyone on the thread is doing well, a few days and so much happens on this thread!

AF kind of came last night finally CD42 ish so I could start taking my stims and make this month but DH already cancelled one week of leave and now may find it difficult swapping again (I am self employed so flexible) if I was to start on CD2 then I would take meds tomorrow, I really want to start but am wondering if I leave it until January when my cycle will hopefully be back to normal.

I am pained to leave it another month but know that organising everything this last minute is going to be challenging (lots going on in RL too!) I have to decide today really and am stuck with what to do ....

Do I give myself the two months to prep body or do I go for it (dependant really on DH being able to juggle work time off)

@littlemimosa hope you are well! you've said above about being on CD41 waiting for proper follicular phase to kick in what do you mean by that?! my cycles have decided to go haywire but this sounds positive?!

@crittertamer how are you and how're you feeling!

@Rose hope you are feeling better, i'm sure the wait is beyond difficult ..

Thinking of you all....

Morning Ladies, unfortunately I have definitely miscarried. We had a private scan this morning which showed no change in the size of the Fetal pole from last week and also no heartbeat. I phoned the epu, they can’t see me until Monday. 😥