Over 40 ttc - Autumn baby dust for me!

[Orchid222]

Here's our new thread, let's hope it's a lucky one!

Mimosa - I took soy after an anovulatory cycle. I ovulated every cycle while taking it and it got me back on track. I'd totally recommend it in your situation.
If I remember rightly I took them cd2-5? And built them up day by day. I've not taken them for quite a while now as cycles have stabalised. Accupuncture & herbs great too, would totally recommend that.

Dhea I got from biovea, planning on 50mg a day. I'll carry on with ubiquinol too. And the many others...

Ugh! What possessed me to test on 11 DPO...and in the evening?! BFN and I “feel” pregnant this month. Nausea, cramping, the lot. Oh well.

@russkispy :( sad to hear that, @Cleozeta, I had the same issue at the beginning of this month CD3 landed on a Saturday and I was getting conflicting advice but I managed (not easily) to get mine done on the saturday, hopefully yours will be timed ok.

Had a a really upsetting two days, the clinic I had chosen abroad (Reprofit in Brno) were sent all results and the Dr said that with my test resuts I had a 0% chance of conceiving with my own eggs. Below are my results

AMH 2.0 pmol/L
LH 4.4
Oestradiol 703
Prolactin 298
FSH 2.7
TSH 2.8

I was told by some people that these were okay ish for my age and I know that some have conceived with lower results at that clinic, am at a loss as to what to do now, can someone shed some light on how I should interpret the above results? Thanks in advance

@shinyblackdog thanks for updating list!
@Crittertamer, glad to see things are progressing well!

@Letsdothis43 - thankyou! I’m feeling truly awful but know it’s for a good cause 😊
I’m sorry to hear about what the clinic said. I’m not sure what the prolactin and TSH results mean (they can’t be that vital though as my clinic doesn’t even ask for them) but the rest look ok to me. Your FSH looks suspiciously low at 2.7 - that might mean you would stimulate extremely fast which generally leads to poore quality eggs, but I’m guess the AMH of 2 is what they’re worried about as this is definitely low, and AMH (together with age) is the best indicator of your likely response to IVF. If you have turned 43 (just asking due to your name change) I think the overall success stats drop to about 5% anyway, and maybe that together with the low AMH is what they are worried about. All that said whilst AMH of 2 is low, it isn’t extremely low and i know many people try (and succeed) IVF with an AMH of less than 1 - you will be warned that your chance of success is lower though. Maybe get a second opinion from a clinic in this country and see what they say?

@Dabofrouge sorry about the BFN 😔

I thought an AMH of 2 was quite good for our age group!

OMG just got a very faint line on a FRER

I have a chart somewhere from the clinic that shows how it declines with age - I’ll see if I can find it and post a picture later. Mine is 10.4 and that’s considered normal for my age. Even at 10.4 maximal protocol is recommended - even on a high dose of stims we only got 6 eggs in cycle 1 and 12 in cycle 2 (with a lot of changes). The response to stims is usually directly proportional to AMH so the lower the AMH the less eggs you are likely to get and usually worse quality too.i am surprised that they said 0% chance though - clinics routinely treat people with AMH less than 1, however age is a significant factor - a 35yo with an AMH of 1-2 has a bettter chance of success than a 42yo with an AMH of 10 due to the fact that the lower number of eggs collected will usually be of much higher quality so more likely to implant.

At least this is how my clinic explained it to me!

Woohoo congrats @Cleozeta! I told you guys it must be all tha5 summer sunshine we’ve had!

@Cleozeta - amazing news! I thought AF was taking a while to show up. How many dpo are you? Fingers crossed for you xxx

Wow Cleo.... congratulations!!!!
So happy for you.... please Post a pic of your bfp..... it'll be a great morale booster

I'm either 13 or 15dpo! I got +opk on cd15 but temps didn't rise properly until cd17 so not sure which one to go with.

The very interesting thing here though girls, is - this is my 2nd cycle on TCM (accupuncture & herbs), and my pregnancy at the beginning of the year was also the 2nd month on TCM.
So my only 2 pregnancies in the last 19 months have both happened on 2nd cycle of TCM. Coincidence? Possibly not.

Thanks evug! Not sure how to post a pic, will try & figure it out

Oh fantastic news Cleo!!! Did you have any signs or symptoms? I’ve got acupuncture booked tomorrow at a Chinese clinic so will be grabbing those herbs with gusto. Do you make a tea and drink them or are they capsules?

Thanks all for the dhea info.

CLeo would you recommend TCM and soy together or just one at a time?

Congrats Cleo! Hmm maybe I shouldn't rush into ivf next cycle. I got pregnant after 3 months of TCM and am currently 2 months into it so maybe I should give it another month...

Mimosa I don't know about Cleo but at my place you can do either, capsules are off the shelf, cheaper and not as strong vs. Fresh mixture is 'customised' to your situation and cycle and stronger.

I do the powder that's made into a 'yummy' tea to drink twice a day. It's expensive but clearly worth it.

I'm not sure about having it with soy. I've been having it with everything else and my accupuncture man has never told me not to mix it with anything else so should be ok.

I didn't really have any symptoms massively out if the ordinary, I had mega cramping at around 9/10dpo, but I often get that these days anyway. I got stark white bfn's at 11 & 12 dpo so thought I was out. The thing that was confusing me was my ava data, as it annalyses pulse rate etc, which is supposed to drop before af, but it kept rising. Also FF recognised a possible triphasic shift

Cleo congrats!!!! We're doing so well this month :) upload that pic if you can, I love a good bfp pic 

@Cleozeta massive congratulations! Gives us all hope!
Still waiting for AF.

Thank you everyone, still so shocked!! Lets hope this one sticks...

I’m so happy for you @Cleozeta! Please post your BFP pic when you can 😊

Here's a BFP pic for those who like them- I've been too terrified to take one of these since Monday which was 2-3 weeks as I've had a terrible worry that it's all going wrong. Im over the moon to see that thi gs are progrrssing properly 😁

Great news Critter!
I got 2-3 weeks yesterday, which was good, but today I’m straight back there convinced it’s going wrong.

Loved your bfp pic critter.....
On a lighter note....DHEA seems to be THE lucky thing.... ladies are falling pregnant even before even starting to have it.
Even I am thinking of ordering it from amazon