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TTC after miscarriage Thread 21. JKS

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L1zz13 · 22/05/2018 18:07

New thread 🐧🐧

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Mistymeow · 07/06/2018 09:37

Actually, my cat does wake me up very briefly every morning at around 5am, but I fall back to sleep for another 2 hours. Could this affect temps? How sensitive is it?

Boboelephant · 07/06/2018 11:27

Oh @weasledee I'm so sorry. How old is your youngest? It's all so hard sometimes isn't it.
@KnitKitty I don't know actually. I wouldn't think so but not sure. I have had between 28 and 34 day cycles since MC which makes my ovulation date change but I always still bleed for the same amount of time. I guess either way a shorter af is a win!
@Mistymeow you can keep recording your temp later but you just have to change the time bit when you do. I also think that yes the 5am wake up would make a big difference as they say a 'minimum of 3 hours uninterrupted sleep'. If you always wake up at 5am, I would pop the thermometer in then and take a quick temp and then go back to sleep. I have been waking at 4am because of it being so light so am taking it then as that's after my best block of sleep. Then just roll over again for a few more hours.
@zarala definitely keep doing the opks. JKS too!! 😀 Oh I know. I feel every twinge now. I'm only 3dpo and convinced I'm extra hungry and feel a bit sick. Grrrr. Stop my head!!!

Pancakes7 · 07/06/2018 13:14

@KnitKitty I recommend headspace. Gp recommended it to me. It's really helped me. I'm glad it's helping you too. We are aiming to jks every day to try and get that bfp again. 2 days done lol. This is partly as I only had 1 af after pill before bfp. Now mc not had af yet so no idea what my cycle is. So just hoping we get lucky.

weasledee · 07/06/2018 13:40

Youngest is 5 bobo
Told OH one more month..... Hmm

Pancakes7 · 07/06/2018 13:46

@weasledee my SIL had her girl in Dec and her boy was 7. They get on really well. He loves having a baby sister so no reason to stop just cause of the age gap.

YellowDaffodils86 · 07/06/2018 14:00

@Boboelephant my opk was neg but close, yesterday n g but really close, bb pain at sides and cm make me think positive is imminent.
Ah loosing a whole day is tough. Makes all the difference.

@Cakelaur ohhh wonderful pic, soooo lovely. Sooo pleased for you. 😍

@Laney79 so pleased you are out of the limbo!

👋🏻hey everyone / will try catch up more later.

TedLife · 07/06/2018 15:29

False alarm on the opks yesterday - got a negative one today! @Boboelephant thanks for your advice, i'm just not used to using these.

Hoping for a regular schedule this month - parents are visiting today until Monday and due to ovulate on Weds so hoping it doesn't come early!! (awkward!)

littleemma1 · 07/06/2018 16:20

Ladies I’ve just been reading back through the rest of this thread and I am SUPER confused.
What is pineapple core and progesterone cream meant to do?!

Also, I’m trying to have a good day today after a very very very bad day yesterday... I GET MARRIED EXACTLY 1 MONTH TODAY! 😬😬😬

Boboelephant · 07/06/2018 17:18

@weasledee I hope it happens for you this month hun! How long have you been trying for this last one now?
@Pancakes7 good luck. Hope it works!
@YellowDaffodils86 ooh sounds close!! Hope it happens today!! Yeah I know. The tww is bad enough!
@TedLife no worries. They take a bit of getting used to. Esp as with a preg test any line is a positive whereas with an opk quite a dark line can still be negative.
@littleemma1 exciting for your wedding!!! Pineapple core contains bromelain which apparently can thicken uterine lining and encourage implantation if you eat from 1dpo to 5dpo.
I am just trying progesterone cream this month which hopefully keeps your progesterone high. Again to try and avoid the drop in progesterone which comes before af. @Cakelaur used it (and got a bfp!)and we noticed on my charts that my temp starts going down around 10dpo which makes it hard for baby to implant if oestrogen is rising. So fx hey!

L1zz13 · 07/06/2018 17:37

There is no point in talking to my hubbo. He is an emotional black hole.
A practical sort of sensible wanker ( ooh did I say that out loud?!?) who does not want to endure my impact on the family should we not have a successful pg. FFS! Selfish C**T.
Soz feeling angry on top of grief and depression!
I think feeling cheated and being controlled comes to mine tbh

However putting what I feel and want aside ultimately I have to respect his feelings and work hard on not resenting him.

My fingers are so crossed for you lovely ladies.

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littleemma1 · 07/06/2018 17:50

@Boboelephant interesting on the progesterone cream. Where do you rub it?! 🤣🤔😳
Not so keen on the pineapple core idea as they’re rank 🤮
I am in two minds on what to do about trying again. I’m tempted to JKS like my life depends on it and not track til after the wedding and take some pressure off, but at the same time I also want to track because if I do ovulate and don’t conceive I don’t want AF on the honeymoon. That’d be a disaster. I have some nortiserone from before being pregnant which I can take to delay my period if she hasn’t shown up by then but I hope I don’t need them.
Gah. So many decisions.

Hope everyone else is well. It’s so hard keeping track of where everyone is. I don’t even know where I am myself most days and this thread moves FAST 🤣

@L1zz13 I really think you two should consider counselling, either way I really hope you work it out. It sounds like a horrible situation to be in. Sending hugs.

Pancakes7 · 07/06/2018 18:31

Thanks @Boboelephant I am not really tracking just hoping it'll happen like last time. Luckily dh is on board. Even more so than last time as he wants it even more now since mc. Which is handy as I hate being pushy and nagging him to dtd. My main aim is to be pregnant before my December due date as otherwise I think I'll really struggle. So 6 months to get my bfp! Fx! I may try the pineapple thing if no luck in a couple of months. This thread is really helping, knowing I'm not alone in this. Thanks ladies! Big hugs for everyone having a hard day and fx for us all to get our babies soon!! 🐧

HidCat · 07/06/2018 19:09

@weasledee sorry to hear you're feeling so down. I hope you feel a bit more positive soon. If you stopped trying would you go back onto contraception or just leave it?

@KnitKitty sounds like you're in a much better place. Might have to try this headspace...

@littleemma1 eek - let the countdown begin!

@L1zz13 I hope your OH comes around. He may just be struggling to deal with it.

BBT thermometer arrived today so will start charting and JKS every couple of days. Going to try to be relaxed this month and no early tests so hopefully no early testing lol. Period is finally in full swing too so no questioning whether or not it's implantation! Going to have a drink tonight and relax.

KnitKitty · 07/06/2018 19:35

Mistymeow Yes it's an app and/or website. :)
Thanks for the suggestion Pancakes7!

Interesting zarala maybe it does indicate earlier ovulation? Will make sure to start JKSing early on this cycle in case.

Hidcat yes, I'm feeling much more my old self again. I've been attacking the negative with all my might. Got affirmations and mantras going on morning and evening, reading self help books and now started this Headspace. I had an excellent day at work today and I'm sure it's just because I'm in a different frame of mind. :)

Pancakes7 · 07/06/2018 20:09

After saying I wouldn't...I feel like I am ovulating soon as higher sex drive. So I took an ovulation test and had a faint positive result! Sop excited that I'm ovulating already. I guess I take it each day and when I ovulate it'll get darker? I'm new to tracking...

littleemma1 · 07/06/2018 20:15

@Pancakes7 funny you should say that as I’ve noticed I’ve felt rather “excited” today so I’m hoping ovulation is just around the corner for me. I tested yesterday and there was barely a line but when I got my BFP I ovulated on day 20 and I’m only day 16 xx

Pancakes7 · 07/06/2018 20:21

@littleemma Yeah when I got my bfp I am not sure when I ovulated... but my app thought it would be day 14 and we dtd 4 times before that day and got the bfp so maybe the app was right? That was my first and only af since pill. So my body's a mystery lol. Really hoping I get lucky and have no af. Fx we both ovulate soon and get our bfp's!!

hayleyfx · 07/06/2018 20:29

@L1zz13 I’m sorry you’re struggling so much hun. I hope you and your OH find a way around this and hopefully he feels able to continue TTC. Sending you lots of hugs. I hope you’re feeling better soon Flowers

@weasledee also sending love to you too. Sorry you’re having a rough time. I really hope it happens for you this month, I’ll keep everything crossed 🤞

To those in the TWW and FW sending you all lots of luck!!

Lilimum4 · 07/06/2018 20:46

Hello ladies this progesterone cream how does it work, where do you use it and where do you get it from. I've had a call from my doctor telling me that my left ovary is basically shot and at this point I'm willing to give anything a go including standing on my head for an hour after DTD. Any other suggestions are more then welcome ( already doing pre seed, pineapple and no raw veg)

Boboelephant · 07/06/2018 21:05

L1zz13 I'm so sorry you are going through this. As others have said might he just need some time? I think you guys absolutely have to find a way to talk about it as the resentment will eat you alive. I'm a bit sad by you saying that only you have to put your wants and needs aside and accept his. Marriage is a two-way street and both your opinions need to be considered. It sounds like a tough road and I hope you guys can sort it out.
@littleemma1 haha nowhere gross! You just rub it into fat and thin areas on rotation- arms, belly, thighs, face etc.
@Lilimum4 I bought it online. It's called wellsprings progesterone cream. Cost £20 and £5 delivery and takes about a week to arrive. You start using it once you have ovulated. So sorry to hear about your ovary. It sucks doesn't it. I only have one tube after my other one rupturing with my ectopic and it causes me worry. If it makes you feel better all the docs think that I can still conceive- and I did although sadly ended in the MMC- but shows it can happen. Hopefully your right ovary will step up for you!!

For those of you who have only just had a MC if it makes you feel better to just go with the flow absolutely do that!! I have only stepped up with trying everything because as I said- I only have one tube left, I'm getting older and we've been trying for #2 for 18 months. I would love to be able to go back to the stress free ttc that I conceived DS and my EP with.

KnitKitty · 07/06/2018 21:24

Lilimum4 and boboelephant I'm joining the only one working ovary club. My left one was removed when I was 14 alongside a ginormous endometriotic cyst. I worry about my remaining one hitting problems, but I got pregnant the second month of trying when I came off the pill so I find that encouraging. As far as I can tell I still ovulate every month. Usually one makes up for the other if it's not working properly. :) I also have a didelphic uterus but I doubt anyone else here has that. Confused

Lilimum4 · 07/06/2018 21:39

@Boboelephant I found one on eBay called wellspring's serenity progesterone cream. Its a white tube with a yellow flower printed on the side. Is this the one

Mistymeow · 07/06/2018 21:46

Thanks @boboelephant I think I've made a right mess! Going to stop charting and will start again next month, it's been causing me stress and I don't think that's what I need right now x

Lilimum4 · 07/06/2018 21:53

@KnitKitty what is that if you don't mind me asking

HidCat · 07/06/2018 21:54

@KnitKitty wow! Had to google it but I have heard of that before. I bet that came as a shock when you found out!

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