TTC after recurrent miscarriage thread 2 - we're not giving up

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Shiny new thread! :)

Oh I'm so pleased, thanks for letting me know

Next scan is in a week para. Longest bloody week ever. No guarantee even if it's fine the one after will be as two mmc have me doubting everything. But it's a big psychological milestone.

I totally understand. 8 weeks was the point I was desperate to pass as all mine failed around 6/7 including the MMC which was picked up later.

What do you think's made the difference? It gives me such hope seeing other people's stories, really helps so much, and it's lovely you're still hanging round here. I can't bring myself to imagine getting there, despite how desperate I am to do so, to tell my DSC and the people who've supported us so well and want a happy ending, to justify all the jabbing and meds. One day at a time is literally the only way to be and it sucks!!!!

I honestly think in my case it was just good luck that this one implanted in a fairly good place, and not in the most scarred areas of my uterus. I also have a huge anterior placenta (unusually big) which my consultant thinks is a factor as some areas are clearly not receiving a good blood supply but hopefully the overall size is helping. Clearly nothing we could do to influence that though. She also thinks having had a long course of antibiotics prior might have helped, that maybe bacterial infection was playing a role (as my cervix is short and damaged it may not have acted as a proper barrier). Given how damaged my cervix is the cerclage clearly played a role after 12 weeks.

You are well covered for placental problems at this point so I really do hope this treatment works for you. How are you finding the steroids?

I’ve got an anterior placenta too. His only slight thoughtfulness was about a fibroid which isn’t close the placenta but depending on how/where it grows he said we need to keep an eye on blood flow as the fibroid can restrict it.

Based on when they’ve failed he previously said he thinks the placenta was to blame. Tests of fetus both times showed they were fine so it must be me. Fx early testing and fragmin, steroids and then aspirin on top have done something. Am I right that the placenta becomes more important around 9 weeks or am I projecting?

Feeling fine on the steroids thanks. I’m struggling with the cyclogest now I’ve upped the dose again, I’m exhausted and it’s taken over from the pred buzz I was getting. I’m waking up in the night prob half the time but had that in pregnancy before on no meds. Fragmin is giving me mega bruising, prog has lost me my waist but the pred has given me great skin! Win some lost some

Thank you all for being so kind. Really don't know where I'd be without you all

@AnneLovesGilbert how were they able to tell placenta location? they keep telling me that there is no way to tell so early. I will cite you as an example the next time I see my lot.
I am shattered.
My two first early losses were around 6.5 weeks which from what I can figure out (and madly google and interrogate my doctor mate) is that at around then is when the fetal blood 'reaches out' to form the placental attachment to the maternal blood. So in my case that is why they were pretty convinced that mine is some kind of blood issue. with keepon's experience of septum as well, there is a point with the reaching out can't go anywhere if there is no blood supply (in septum) so it could be that too. Actual placenta development must start from that point so yeah your 9 week mark seems perfectly sensible to me.
I keep touching my boobs to see if they are sore.

He did a 20 minute scan last week and showed the blood flow to the placenta. I was 7+5. I hadn’t seen the placenta before (usually just bothered by whether or not there’s anything in there and preferably a heart beat) it was like a big cushiony blob and he said it was right at the front sort of behind my public bone which I think makes it anterior.

Actually he explained a while ago something about roots being formed and that was why you start blood thinners before the placenta starts to form. I’m so untechnical I struggle with how it all works.

Sorry you’re shattered miami. My boobs are medium sore but it’s a recent thing and could be the prog whether natural or synthetic.

Placenta becomes more important after 9 weeks, and becomes more and more responsible for the maintenance of the pregnancy (before that it’s the corpus luteum/hormones). They can see sometimes it early but as uterus expands so much early on it tends to move a lot in the early days (unusually up but mine appears to be going down at the moment annoyingly.

Steroids will contribute to the bruising too. Did you have very dry skin before? They usually do not make skin look better so you are lucky!!

Keepon is doing well too- she’s been admitted today for an unstable lie with a plan to induce her next week so she’s at the finishing line.

Oh bless her. The end is in sight though

Normal to dry face skin normally. My usual pregnancy complexion is awful chin spots and terrible upper back skin. This is a revelation! I feel like a fat potato, I hate the heat, the back of my head is too hot, I’m so bloated I’m pretty much waddling, so trying to be grateful for any positives.

Anyway, how are you para?

My pregnancy complexion is also spotty chin and back. Combined with my horrible sweating and bags under my eyes due to an inability to sleep in the heat I look really good!

I’m pretty good. Early spd now, movements still quite intermittent but really nice to feel. Struggling with anxiety but I suppose we all will until we get to the end and have a baby in our arms. Taking it day by day and marking each little milestone.

You’re a trouper para. Forecast is looking better here for the week ahead. Oh how welcome greet my skies and drizzle will be

Feeling movements must be amazing.

@miami81 so glad to hear your recent scan went well!
@annelovesgilbert keeping fx for your next scan, hoping all the meds have done the trick.
@munchies I know what you mean about feeling ambivalent towards scans. I decided not to do an early scan last time as my feeling was I didn't want medical management if I didn't need it so what was the point. We likely would have seen a heartbeat at that point anyway so I still don't think we would have known until my body started to miscarry weeks later.

We did get good news this week though, we got a BFP! I'm anxious but hopeful. I saw our midwives for bloodwork yesterday as they want to make sure my progesterone level looks good. I've been taking Vitex and Floridex (iron supplement) and getting acupuncture so I guess maybe some or all of that helped? We will plan on going for an early scan for what it's worth.

Congratulations @TaylsN!!!!!!! What brilliant news. Very happy for you

Congratulations @TaylsN!

Congratulations @TaylsN that's great news. Gentle hand holding for you for the next bit.
The bloke at my work whose baby was due has had a little girl - first one in my immediate circle of contacts since dd, if that makes sense. Feel sick and can't look at the photo that has been emailed through.

@Miami it's so hard seeing others having what we want so badly. Every single one of my close friends is either pregnant or has had a baby recently and there is one for each of my due dates. It's so unfair! Every day you're a step closer though. Sending lots of love and hugs 💕

Hugs @Miami81 and @Hopefulforourrainbow Sorry it's shit.

Sorry you're bloated and bruisey Ann. Will you have to continue with the meds regime for long? I'm very much not pregnant but I'm so happy for the miserable weather.

Miami and hopeful I find myself feeling really cheated sometimes when I see friends have dc. It seems to underline how little I feel I've achieved.

miami I'm so happy your scan went well yesterday. You are getting closer every day.

This thread does really help. I'm loving hearing about these good scans ladies keep them coming!

Sorry Anne, mis-spelt your name!

That's alright SerenaOverjoyed, it's not my real name anyway

Progesterone and steroids end at 12 weeks (assuming we get there) and you have to wean off the steroids. Fragmin carries on to 20 weeks or full term, not sure how they decide, and I assume aspirin the same.

It's raining here, it's beautiful and grey!

So glad you found us, nice having you here though I obviously wish you hadn't been through what you've been through in order to join this particular club.

Sunny here but I'm having a pjs day pottering around the house. In tears now watching mmc storyline in Hollyoaks 😭 was feeling good today too!

Lovely and grey here too Anne. Working from home this afternoon and tomorrow and am very glad it's finally cool and the garden is getting some desperately needed rain. I'm really not a trooper, I'm generally desperately trying to stay calm/completely forget that I am in fact pregnant!

Miami that's very hard, I hope you are being kind to yourself today.

Congrats TayIsN! I think most of us have a combined desire to have scans and a terrible fear of them.

Hopeful I can't bear watching any TV portrayals of miscarriage or loss of babies.