TTC after pregnancy loss: We're nervous, we're hopeful, we're checking all the charts and taking all the vits!

[BertieBotts]

Welcome back all and welcome new posters.

Welcome zigzag - I'm so sorry you're going through this. I conceived after ltttc too via iui so I know a bit what it's like to be in your shoes. ❤️ Do you have frozen embryos to transfer at all from your ivf cycle?

Thank you for the warm welcome everyone, it means a lot. I had been watching the thread for the last week and am so glad I joined as somehow feel less alone now.

We have six frozen 5 day blasts and will have another transfer as soon as the hospital give the ok. Apparently I have to wait for 2 more bleeds and can then start with injections on day 21 of the second cycle. Have a follow up appointment with the hospital Tuesday next week to discuss what went wrong this time.
The clinic can find no reason why we can't conceive naturally so we will try in between cycles once I get a bfn.
In fact we did get pregnant naturally a couple of years ago but it ended at 10 weeks. I have also had a chemical from a frozen transfer last year.
I am sorry for the long post. I don't really talk about this but it feels better to be able to share it all on here.
Sorry for your losses and for everything you have all gone through or are still going through. Life can be so very cruel sometimes.

This thread does make you feel less alone zigzag - we're glad you're here 💙

That's great about the embryos! Was that from one round? You must have responded well!

Would you be eligible for any testing now you've had two miscarriages? I believe there's an NHS clinic (is it the one in Coventry ladies?) that does test after two if you're over 35.

Sorry zigzag just reread your post and a chemical counts as a mc so you're definitely now entitled to be referred for investigation on the NHS

Thanks Kerry. Yes, the embryos were all from one round. I couldn't believe I responded so well as I am actually over 40!

I will ask about investigations on Tuesday but I suspect they will just tell me I have dodgy eggs as I am too old!

Bah well I caved and got stark BFN. It's 11dpo so I reckon it would at least be a squinter by now and even if I get one later it's not likely to be viable. Sigh. Another month then.

Sorry Bertie. This sucks. Pour yourself a nice glass of wine and fingers crossed for next time

@Zigzagg99 - apologies I can't comment much on this as have no experience of IVF but I am glad you have found this thread. x

Oh shit now I have either a squinter or an evap. Stupid cheap crappy German tests!! I don't really know that there's much point buying one today either because it's sooo faint I should really wait until Sunday or Monday.

I've had evaps on these before, they're rubbish.

That's amazing zigzag. I do think personally that it's worth pressing for a referral to a recurrent miscarriage clinic as there are a number of issues that could be going on that could be treated in the future.

Argh Bertie - was the line after the test had sat for a while? 🤞

Can I ask what they can do at the recurrent miscarriage clinic? I've had 3 now but I also have 2 boys so would they not see me do you think as I have children? Just wondering :)

😊 I don't know the details weasel as I've only had 1 but I'm sure there are 2 ladies on here who do so hopefully they'll chime in

I did see something about it on another thread too and they said that they got an NHS referral - It's called the Centre for Reproductive Immunology and Pregnancy (CRP Clinic) and my consultant is Mr Shehata.

They were tested for clotting problems, killer nk cells and other immunological issues and treated to enable her 4th pregnancy to succeed. You can also go to that clinic as a private patient, they have a website with info on

Still lurking a bit.

Oooh Bertie, I was thinking of you this morning! Fx it's a line!

I know someone treated by Dr S, her son has just started school with mine. By all accounts it's worth it if you have the condition. She had to travel to London a lot.

Nah I think it was an evap, it sort of appeared for a bit 10-15 mins after I did the test and then disappeared again, plus I'm spotting already. Nothing like testing to bring on AF!

Fucking fuck. I was doing fairly okay and then at lunchtime today my best friend tells me she's pregnant with her third, accidentally. Conceived at pretty much exactly the time my baby died inside me.

I am genuinely happy for her but I'm just so fucking upset and angry for me.

@BertieBotts sorry to hear AF may be approaching. Big hugs.

@KerryLeanne84 I walked into work last week on my first day, and another teacher was 24 weeks pregnant less than a year after popping out baby number 2! I hadn't known as she'd been on maternity leave for the previous baby. I had to walk out the room! I also just saw an update of someone who's on baby number 4, and some of the ladies on the March 2018 thread are on baby 5! They are all lovely people, but I can't help but feel "but I don't even have one..." I hate myself for feeling that way, but I can't help it. It's normal to feel like that. We are only human after all.

Oh no Bertie I hope not. Bloody af. I hope if she does show you can enjoy yourself over the weekend.
Elk nice to see you, are you ok? All moving along?
And Kerry and flat it's such normal feelings. I'm even struggling to see my friend who is pregnant after 6 mc so she definitely does deserve a bloody baby, but it still hurts me and I think of where I would have been in my pregnancy by now...

Oh sorry Bertie.

I'm sorry there's babies everywhere. You're right, we are only human. I think these feelings are very understandable. It's just not fair.

I think so no cats, thank you for asking - anxiety is high. I had a terrible week of feeling queasy in the run up to week 5, then this week (5 wks on tues) it's been much milder. I think similar happened with ds, and I'd had day where I woke up feeling utterly not pregnant by now with my mc (which started 20 days later at 8 wks) so I think that makes me feel things are ok. Boobs and nipples are quite sore. Very tired today. Perhaps another boy! But there's niggles aplenty due to the fading nausea.

I read through my posts in the thread when I had ds (!!) 5 years ago. I think symptoms were similar at this point from what I can make out. I am however, pretty convinced I will mc or there is an issue at the moment.

A reassurance scan wouldn't help either as I was scanned when spotting and found the baby measuring almost 2 weeks too small, despite a heart beat. I mc 2 days later. I found the scan more traumatic than the mc actually. So I'm somewhat off scans.

I've managed to google the fuck out if Google accept I can't change what the cells in my body are doing. And trying to distract myself lots.

Kerry aww that's tough news :( hope your okay!
Bertie sorry it seems af is coming.

I had a scan yesterday to confirm that the mc i had in spain was 'luckly?' Complete. I have no pregnancy tissues or anything left just a pocket of blood that is expected to all be out within the next week or so. I had some bleeding last night but it's stopped again.
My doctor has signed me off for 4 weeks to hopefully feel ready for normality again. Spending time with my 19m old DD is really helping me.
Now i know it's completed i do feel abit more ready to start ttc again but will prob wait until Dec to start. I think it's too raw right now!

Weasel I've had 2 consecutive mc's. The sonographer said if i was unlucky enough to have another one I'll be sent for testing next time?

Xx

'Glad' (wrong word but you know what I mean) it is complete @BlueeSpottyTiger. I wonder if I went back to work too early (11 days after ERPC) but it's actually a good distraction. I'm still getting a BFP after over 3 weeks, and I'm struggling with my body taunting me in this way.

I do think the lack of aftercare us ladies get is contributing to my mental fragility. I think if someone had been there for me (not family or friends, I mean a healthcare professional) I honestly think I wouldn't be where I am now. I've got social anxiety now which is SO unlike me, and am forcing myself out the door to a gig three hours from home tonight. Was crying last night at the thought, and am still crying, but if I don't do this I may never go out again! I just can't seem to control my emotions unless I'm at home or work. I should probably get counselling or something, but that's difficult when you work 60 hours a week and are in bed by 9 every night with exhaustion.

Well I'm, I think, 11dpo and and possibly 2 days late. Keep getting possible evap lines and had a rash on my arm at 7dpo which I've only ever had with pg last time at the same stage. But, now I'm starting to cramp a bit more today and everything about this completely sucks! On to another month

Bertie, sorry to hear af may be on it's way. It really does suck.

Kerry, I walked into Boots the other day and there were pushchairs everywhere and a new born crying. I actually couldn't breathe and felt my eyes welling up, I literally ran out of the shop. Must have looked like a right crazy woman!

Afm, I thought the bleeding had stopped but just before I left work yesterday there was a flash of red blood (sorry if tmi). And there was me thinking I could stop using pads soon. How stupid of me!

Blue, good news about your scan. Hope you feel ready to move on soon. I have a ds from my first round of ivf in 2011. He has been my rock. If only he knew.

Sorry if I have missed anyone.