We're ovulating again, so let's jump our men. It's TTC after miscarriage thread ten!

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I hope I did ok with the title (thanks for the inspiration Emwithme). I felt a bit lost without a thread to post on so I thought I'd have a bash at it.

So glad I found this new thread- hooray!

Trust me to post the 1000th message on the previous thread, it was rather long & I went on about how rubbish I was feeling yesterday.

Feeling a bit better today- had last night.

Cannot help feeling that something needs to change.

We are on cycle 10 TTC, I know when my fertile window is and almost know when ovulation is from using OPKs/temping for a few months.

Last night I was trying to google going private for fertility investigations- we can't really afford it but I cannot ignore the rising panic within me as my 39th birthday looms in the next few months.

On the NHS/via the GP I think things would take forever.
Plus we have a child already so any "intervention" would have to be paid for by us I imagine.

I really don't know- maybe I'm just clutching at straws, but it is so frustrating doing what we always did before i.e. have sex!, but no getting pregnant so far.

My perspective is most probably skewed because falling pregnancy has always been straightforward for me- 2 previous pregnancies, both occurring within weeks of stopping the combined pill and after 1 episode of unprotected sex!

I am just staggered at how much unprotected sex I have had over the last 10 months or so- it is all unknown territory compared with what I knew before and so it is very difficult to accept and take on board.

Hope you are all having a good day!

Thanks for the new thread @Tiffin, I was going a bit loopy without it!

So sorry to all of you with AF. Gutted for you all. We had a little run of BFPs - let's hope that starts back up again in this thread, and soon.

I had my consultant appointment and it was actually pretty good. The scan showed that I have lots of cysts, including one big dermoid one. Bah. So having marker tests done. But the consultant wasn't too worried. He's referred me for the usual CD2 etc tests so we'll see what comes of them - I go back in 6 weeks.

I'm expecting to O on Saturday (CD18) but have had EWCM today and yesterday. Very confusing. Does anyone else get that? Every month I get EWCM 3-4 days before I get a positive OPK. I'm never sure which to go by!

peachgreen

Yes I notice that I get EWCM around CD11 or so, the get positive OPK around CD14/15

This has made me wonder too.

I thought that the EWCM marks the start of the fertile window or "high fertility" if using a CB monitor.

Peach and turquoise
I had this - ewcm seemed earlier than ovulation. My acupuncturist seems to have helped sort it out. As soon as they lined up again properly I fell again. I am convinced that it was the medical management (tablets can't recall the name of) that messed with my system so much. I think it can take a long time to recover from it.

@Miami81 That's really interesting, thank you! Did you mention it specifically to the acupuncturist? Or did the general sessions just seem to help?

anne it was sepsis she was really poorly so ever since reading the thread I've been paranoid about excessive bleeding.

Peach I mentioned it specifically to her and she took all that on board. My cycle improved and she also gave me a diet sheet for fertility improvement.

AF arrived today . Second after my MC. Had waited for first but stupidly convinced myself we would be lucky this time, especially with all the extra fertile talk. I'm absolutely gutted and so is dh. He even had a cry and he never cries! I think all the emotion from the mc has returned and more hopes have been dashed. The pressure to hit fertile windows is also stressing us both out. I was so excited in January when we started trying. Since then, life is a living nightmare!

Gosh getting pregnant is so hard isn't it. Got so annoyed walking into the hospital the other day and heavily pregnant women standing outside smoking. Made me so cross at them and then at myself for judging them and feeling desperately jealous that I wasn't pregnant.

Turquoise I know exactly how you feel, I conceived my daughter with literally one shot and it took us 11 months to get our son. I had myself driven crazy and self diagnosed with secondary infertility.

Started back running last night and went again tonight. Need the headspace if nothing else. Sorry about all the Af's, secretly wanting mine to return.

Can I join? Af came Monday and was my first since two erpc, one in March and one in April for a complicated miscarriage at 11weeks. Looking forward to ttc again but it's one hell of an af.

@anne so glad your bleeding has slowed down - I was thinking earlier could not be the aspirin making it heavier?
Those of you who take aspirin do you do it through whole cycle or just from ov?
We got a letter from the hospital today telling us that the tests they did on the foetus after our erpc showed trisomy 15 - which freaked me out - but they seem v reassured that this would not happen again - was v bad luck and they say it is v positive that my body recognised this pregnancy was not compatible with life - it is apparently v rare. The only thing she did say was chances of trisomies increased slightly with age. She said there was no indication of any underlying condition with me and all should be well in the future - v v v v v low chance
Of it happening again! I know I should feel v reassured but not sure what I think - glad there is a reason and that the guilt I feel for running / going in a jacuzzi/ not resting enough / taking anti biotics are completely unfounded - but sad that it happened and we could create a baby compatible with life :-(
We don't know what caused the mmc in October - but if it was similar then surely our chances of success next time having had two
Lots of bad luck should increase? I just don't know!

Thanks for new thread!!

Miami - what was included in the fertility boosting diet? I'm trying to focus on nutrition for ttc this month.

Conker - i'm sure the trisomy result was a bit of a shock! It must be some comfort knowing it was absolutely nothing to do with anything you did. And reassuring the hospital think it unlikely to happen again. How is your 10k training coming along? I just started running with 3 other people so if I get pregnant and stop it will be so obvious. I think that's why I am doing it maybe - trying to bring sod's law on myself.

It was a huge shock as they had said that if all well we wouldn't hear - then we got this letter -which is v kindly and sensitively written and really reassuring - so I am v pleased they let us know and I am relieved that it was this and not something I'd done or not done - I had pneumonia around the time the baby stopped developing and I blamed that and on the fact I have a crappy immune system (I have rheumatoid arthritis) and turns out it is none of those things - and it is. One of those things - which is a huge relief - but still v sad that we don't have our baby :-(

Running is coming along nicely! On week 3 of the 10k training programme and feeling strong and in control for first time in months which is just awesome! Running should be a prescription thing as it gives me such a buzz! Enjoy your group runs! I just joined a running club and had not realised how much fun it is to run with other people! Xx

I know - it is very sad not to have our babies. Hopefully having a reason for mc might help with grieving the loss too by giving some clarity.

Great job on the running. My other goal is to make it on to the 'running in pregnancy' thread here. Hopefully we will all be on it soon ☺️

Peach I'm glad you feel the appointment was positive.

Lulu I'm so sorry about AF. I am a month behind, just starting first AF and I know I will be crushed if it doesn't happen this month. Its almost as though I am relying on it. Be kind to yourself. Hopefully this new month will be your month.

Chugalina the waiting is rubbish. I can't believe how much more positive I feel since AF arrived. I hope it comes quickly for you.

Tankfly I'm sorry you find yourself here. My AF is definitely loads heavier than usual too. Is it particularly painful?

Conker I'm glad the results were sent in such a reassuring way, and that the risks of it happening again are so low. Obviously a shock to know a specific reason, and still so sad that it happened at all.

Hi all, can I join? This thread moves fast! I am 35, TTC #1 for 16 months. We had an early miscarriage month 2/3 and nothing until this month. We were just going to begin IVF and I fell pregnant. We are waiting for a scan next week and I am losing the plot-the symptoms I had last week (painful breasts, super nose) have gone now as they did with last miscarriage...though I am only three weeks so not sure how fair it is to expect symptoms. (Tested early as due to start IVF.)
Also wanted to give a wave to turquoise as we went 13 months between MC and falling again. Every month is such a roller coaster.

Xx and to all for Friday.

Morning all,

Conker I felt really similar when I was phoned about suspected partial molar. Initially I was shocked and gradually I came around to thinking well at least there was a reason I lost the baby and again that it wasn't my fault. Still sad about what could have been.

Sun is shining here. Today will be a good day x

Hi ladies
Quick update from me. Spotting turned heavier last night at 6+2 and symptoms are all dying away. Going to try and ring epu this morning to get seen. Feel so rung out and strung out. I don't think my poor little Christmas bean is going to make it.
Timing wise it is freakish that if this is a mc that will be my third around the exact same timing in pregnancy. First stopped developing at 6+2, second at 6+4 and if this is it again that will be me at 6+3. I am trying and struggling to stay positive. All the aspirin seems to have done is increase my bleeding!

Joining thread - I did read last night but my brain is utter mush!

I've just got af a couple of days ago, first post mc. I was expecting horror, and certainly had cramps and clots at first (I never have period pain) but now seems ok (so far!)

So I guess I'm back to the ttc train. Though I think dh and I are going to wait a couple more months so the tracking train! I'd rather not wait but he's had a lot of events at wkends where he's drunk quite a bit over the last 6 weeks. I'm probably being ott but I'm think it might be good to allow his body to recover somewhat! And I want to try to strengthen my weak back / pelvis some more. It does feel good to take a break as I know I'll find early preg stressful.

Oh miami, I'm so sorry. I hope perhaps you can get some investigations perhaps? So hard for you I had all my fingers and toes crossed

Dancing - it was a shocker but only for two or three days and then it just stopped. Roll on mid month, looking forward to getting back to business so to speak :)

Awesome in the running conker and with RA. Does it help?

It's one of the things I want to do to help my back (which sounds odd but it sure help as long as I'm pigeon stretching constantly!) oooh a pregnancy running thread!

Oh Miami no. So hoping it's not another one for you. I really hope you can be seen today. Will keep everything crossed it's just a scare. Thinking of you.

Congrats meadow lovely news and hope all will be ok for you

Oh Miami, you have had such a hard time. Really insist on being seen today. Will be thinking of you.