40+ ttc: the one where we all get knocked up!

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Shiny new thread. Here's the link to the previous one.

I hate spotting, it just prolongs the whole thing.

I'm not sure if I'm spotting but discharge is golden and perhaps getting darker.

I had my ultrasound today and all seems fine. Lining was 10mm and they saw at 15mm corpus luteum.

Sorry, pressed post by accident.

They saw a 15mm corpus luteum. I didn't expect them to see the CL so close to AF (due tomorrow).

Part of me did get my hopes up but I guess that's quite small for a CL so it must be on its way out. Plus the dark discharge. But no PMT yet, waiting for that to hit!

And my uterus is retroverted - quite common I think. Not sure if it causes fertility probs...

AF has arrived, there's no Christmas miracle, and I'm gutted. I knew the chances for the IUI weren't that high but AF arrived two days early and just in time for Christmas, which seems needlessly cruel. We just don't seem to get over the first hurdle of actually managing an implantation.

At the same time I'm clutching at straws precisely because it's so early and I know that implantation bleeds are sometimes mistaken for early periods, but realistically speaking I'm fairly sure this is AF and not implantation. :(

Cthulhoo I will keep my fingers crossed but am gutted for you if it is AF. So cruel right before Christmas. I hope you can pick yourself up and enjoy Christmas

Alibaba2 glad everything looked ok on the scan. Fingers crossed for you too.

Fuzzy thinking of you

Welcome Pooger and BumpleLeeds.

Cthul, is it full-flow and red?

What is a CL? I am really getting my hopes up this mth even thogh i am still six days away from getting period. Rather silly...

Gpressed enter too quickly. Wanted to ask, how old is everyone and r u trying for first, second etc?

Thank you ababs. Wishing you well. I'm 9dpo, felt queasy all day, trying to convince myself it's something good but know it's just the shittiness of what we're dealing with.

Sorry Cthul. Hope for you it's just a heavy IB.

Pooger, I'm 42. I'm trying for my second, but I don't have any living children. My son died last year at 13 months, very suddenly to sepsis. Hence hating xmas with a passion and needing it to do one. I've had an ectopic prior to my son & 3 mcs since losing him, all between Feb & July of this year. We've had 1 round of IVF which ended with no viable embryos. We're starting our 2nd round as soon as AF arrives next week. My problem now seems to be age-related egg quality. We conceived our boy at 39, first month of trying, and he was perfect. All the best to you.

Hello all. Just checking in. Reading Fuzzy's post was a bit of a wake up call. Fuzzy, you are so strong and I wish I had your courage. Many many

This week I had to make the hardest decision of my life yet and let ddog go. He has been by my side for the past 14 years. I will be very lost without him. Its not comparable to the loss of a child I know.

Fuzzy, thinking of you and hope you get the good luck you deserve asap.

Thanks Ababs.

Pooger, CL is Corpus Luteum. I'm 41 and ttc#3.

City, thinking of you too.

Sorry about your dog city. I lost my old dog just before I got pg, and up to that point in my life it was the worst thing that I'd been through. No, not a scratch compared to what came later, but very painful to me at the time. Crappy Shitmas xxx

PMT arrived today - have been tearful. And crampy.

Wasn't expecting it to happen this month but still disappointing - got my hopes up as didn't have spotting this month and the scan went ok.

Ah well, at least got to have some vino with dinner. Was feeling so positive yesterday.

Hope you're all getting through the day ok.

Sorry to hear that Alibaba. Think I'm out too as just started with some spotting. Glass of wine it is then!

alibaba Ah, damn. Sorry you're out too. :( I was hoping at least one of us would provide a Christmas miracle.

Red and full flow, so definitely AF. Which means that either I have a much shorter luteal phase than needed, even with progesterone, or they got the ovulation date wrong, which seems a bit unlikely. I'll call them after the holidays so we can start planning for the next cycle of IUI.

Thinking of you City and MrFuzzy.

All of you, I'm wishing you a peaceful Christmas time and am sending you virtual hugs and , and .

Sorry to hear that Cthul. How long is your LP normally? I don't think 12 days is too short, but I guess you'd expect it to be longer with progesterone...? I've read about women having healthy pgs with an LP of 10 days. I think it counts from full flow rather than spotting.

Well, I took my last cycloprogynova yesterday, so waiting a few days for af to kick in, then onto stims for IVF#2. Not expecting any success whatsoever, based on the disaster of #1, but I'll be curious to see what difference the priming makes. If it helps I'll let you all know. For the £3.11 it costs, it could be worth a try if we get more eggs.

Glad that Shitmas is nearly over for another year. It was just another Sunday for us. We visited the cemetery, had oatcakes for tea (local Staffordshire thing!) and then curled up in front of Netflix. We visited my parents but it ended quickly when my dad told me to cheer up and stop looking so miserable...... I hid in the loo, burst into tears, and decided enough was enough.

We had a visit from some friends who had twins by egg donation last weekend. Had a very interesting chat with the mum about her feelings about it all. We've decided it's definitely the way forward for us, and talking to her gave me a more realistic idea of the emotional issues involved.

Here's to 2016 fucking off soon, and a better 2017

Hello ladies, hope you had a peaceful Christmas. Arggh so sorry abt AF Ali and Fuzzy, its such a pain esp when we get signs which look positive and hopes go up.

Hope Xmas has been bearable Fuzzy, it must be v tough. Did you see wider family or stay with DH?

And City ;-( to hear abt your dog..

Wishing for some luck for all on this thread in 2017

Hello everyone, been reading through the thread, thought I'd pop in if that's ok. Age 44, adult children, been ttc for a year. Really don't think it's goin to happen now, but you never know. Just getting really despondent about the whole thing so thought maybe joining up and receiving and giving support would increase optimism somehow. AF due on Wednesday, expect it to come, since it always does, we shall see. Not good at remembering names so apologies, but two stories moved me, MrFuzzy - you are an inspiration! Sooo brave and strong! I have everything crossed that things will work out for you in the way you hope for. Lifeatthebeach - your story moved me to happy tears, what a wonderful, wonderful outcome! Gives us all hope!

Cthul, onwards and upwards. Not long until the positive hormones start kicking in again.

Fuzzy, parents say the shittest things sometimes, thinking they are helping. I don't blame you for leaving. When is AF due and will that be your IVF cycle?

Tober, welcome and good luck for this cycle and next year.

AF still hasn't arrived for me but my temps have dropped so know I'm not pg. Plus the moodiness and dark discharge.

I'm normally a very regular 25-26 day girl but I'm taking extra B vitamins so maybe that has lengthened my LP.

Sorry to hear af may be on the way Ali. Hope not. Yes, as soon as I get full flow I'll register my cycle & start day 2 stims as usual. Should arrive 4-7 days after the last tablet, which was yesterday.

Hi Tobermory. Thank you for your lovely words, and good luck

Evening all and welcome Pooger, Bumple and Tober.. I'm 44 like you Tober!

Fuzzy, sorry my msg crossed yours.. Agree with Ali on parents... Interesting about your friends. Great to have friends who have already taken this route you can talk to. The more time goes on the more I think parenting trumps genetics hands down on every count.

Ali, that's disheartening when temps go down. for new cycle and 2017.

Hi Ali, sounds like you've read all there is on spotting but noticed something today.. just in case of help.

Emma Cannon says that the way to address spotting depends on if pre or post AF and colour. If brownish pre AF she says can also be associated with short/scant periods and what she calls Blood Deficiency. Various other symptoms she lists that go with that, e.g. experiencing dizziness, unsettled/hard to sleep, dry hair/skin, slim build.

Sounds a bit random but in case any of that fits?

She says environmental contributors can be a sudden shock, miscarriage or not recovering properly after an illness. Gives steps to take whether ttc naturally or IVF.

to us all

Thanks Clara. I've got that book so I'll read up on Blood Deficiency.

AF arrived today so feeling a little delicate and inlaws are arriving imminently . Not in the mood whatsoever!

Hope you're all doing ok.

Oh hope day goes ok with in laws