TTC #1 Thread 14. Shroedingering Like Champions! (It's an art form and a skill!)

[StarkyTheDirewolf]

Hugh enjoys ISW and his love affair with Doreen. He watches out for skittle tits and weepyitis. Mrs Arseholey Fucknut (Af) shows up when you least want her but brings wine and soft cheese as a consolation prize.

We don't have rules as such but expect to be talked down from the ledge with kind and well meaning but firm words if you get too hysterical. But most importantly don't convince yourself you're pregnant in the tww That is paramount! It messes with your head and makes you crazy crazier

We don't get a lot of baby dust in these here parts. We want a fanny full of determined Doreen, not unicorn farts and gnome tears with extra sparkle. We've been going a while now so the novelty has somewhat worn off and we're slightly battle scarred and bruised in the cervix area.

Post your stats and add your dates. A more lovely, supportive group of ladies you couldn't wish to meet. We've got a few grads sticking around I won't leave and no question is too daft. We have opk experts, cervical mucus management teams and symptom spotters extraudinaire!

WE SHALL WIN IN THE GAME OF SPERM MEETS EGG! IT WILL HAPPEN!

kat and inspector sorry about AF

suchajem can you do me a favour and read the leaflet with your M acid - any words about potential fertility impact? I only read small print on the pills I have been using for about 25 years (naxop somethingorother) and a side effect is fertility impact - so now I use paracetamol which is useless.

Sorry for all the AFs

snowdog what is your IUI protocol? Happy to field any questions :)

Sorry you're out sky hope your in laws are on good behaviour.

kwick Christ that had never occurred to me! I will check that as soon as I get my hands on the packet - thank you.

I used to take mefanamic acid for menstrual pains too, Jem - I found it only ever worked though if I took it in advance of the period coming. If I woke up and it had come during the night, the pills just bounced off the pain.

I eventually ended up stopping using it because of that - ran out of them in uni once and thought I'd request to go on the Pill instead as the mefanamic acid wasn't massively reliable for me - but then ended up encountering the world's shittiest doctor in the uni surgery who all but explicitly called me a whore for asking to go on the Pill. I was gobsmacked - it must have been a popular request for that surgery, students have sex after all! (though ironically I was still a virgin then and only needed it to control period pains) - but I was so young and bewildered back then I did nothing about it - today I'd have complained to the head practitioner or something. Total arsehole.

Anyway. sorry for the digression . I'll be joining you later today I think Sky. No AF yet but she's imminent ... brown staining this morning when I wipe and my temp is lower for the 2nd day running. I just want her to hurry up and show so I can get her over with. At least I can have some wine this weekend. :)

Morning Ladies, everyone looking forward to the Bank Holiday?

Just wondered if anyone else struggles with temping? It's my first month doing it and mine are absolutely all over the place... I'm out by over .5 a degree some days. FF has me worried now as it says it could be a sign of delayed ovulation or not ovulating at all. I'm doing it at roughly the same time every day and doesn't seem to be any different if I do it under the arm. Haven't quite figured out how to do it foofily with the hubbie asleep beside me Anyone been in a similar boat??

kwick I have an appt with the RE on Thursday to discuss the finer details but my understanding is I'll be prescribed Clomid to take cd3-7, I'll have an ultrasound day 3 for baseline afc then again between days 7-10 to check on how many/sizes of follicles. I usually ovulate day 12 so they'll either let me o on my own or give me ovidrel (I think that's what it's called) to trigger ovulation. 36 hours approx after the trigger, dh and I will go to the clinic and he will do his thing, it'll be washed, then they'll do IUI. They've recommended We dtd the evening before I trigger and the evening after IUI. We can't do May cycle as I'm already day 3 and our appt isn't til next week. So this month is just about relaxing and losing some weight. If I get pg this cycle it'll be bloody typical. But obviously very welcome!

Good god Kav that is horrendous . No doctor should be saying things like that to anyone - but particularly at a university/student GP practise - you would think they would be the most clued up on contraceptives and dealing with young people's sexual health. Appalling.

Well blow me;

The use of mefenamic acid may impair female fertility and is not recommended in woman attempting to conceive. In woman who have difficulties conceiving or who are undergoing investigation of infertility, withdrawal of mefenamic acid should be considered.

Thanks kwick! Luckily I don't take very much - I took one during my last period. Will be abstaining from now on!

yikes Kav thats awful. unfortunately i have heard other stories about doctors not believing how painful AF could be ??

anyway.

I am being healthy. Carrot cake with walnuts (for zinc), its healthy right ? right ?? 1 of my 5 a day surely

sod it. its friday.

Just stood on the scales this morning and very grumpy. After 1 week of eating well and excersise up 1 and a half pounds!! Soooo not fair, so I'll be having a pina colafa tonight because why not! I start the next set of shifts on Sunday so no bank holiday for me. sigh

muscle.... clearly muscle ;)

As I contemplate whether I'm having another coffee, I'm starting to feel philosophical. I probably missed that discussion in an earlier thread and I know that you had a similar discussion just a few days ago but I find shroedingering a rather apt term. I seem to be in this weird space where for most of the time I'm acting like I could be / am pregnant - little to no alcohol (I didn't even get properly drunk on my 40th birthday last weekend!), serious reduction of coffee, when I'm getting meds prescribed I'm checking, etc. ... whilst knowing full well that chances are slim I actually am pregnant.

I mean, right now the decision whether I'll have another coffee (I had a half-decaff/half-real this morning, a weak one-shot this noon) is taking up a substantial part of my already-fragile brain.

Argh!

I've been doing that too Cthulhoo! I've drastically reduced my caffeine intake already, stopped taking ibuprofen, lowered my alcohol intake... I'm loosening up a bit now but it is a lot!

I'm loosening up on all the avoiding caffeine, alcohol, everything that tastes good. I probably avoid soft cheese the week before AF but that's it. Month 7. Man I was naive to think it might happen month 1!!

My plan for May was de-stressing and lots of exercise, but a huge new stressful project has just been landed on our service...And I also stupidly volunteered for extra extra work. Fool!! On the other hand I'm excited about it, itll be good experience, and maybe it'll be a good distraction. But I'll be working two evenings, tired, and dtd may suffer...hmm

Jem why not try natural supplement vitex agnus castus? Supposed to be excellent for pms symptoms and balancing out hormones. I don't really get bad pms, but the spots which I have been blessed with since coming off the pill seem to have calmed this month since I started taking it.

Hi Kwick!! 😘

Ovia is telling me to test and I am ignoring!! I'm 12dpo but cd22 so I think it's still too early. Please all convince me I should not go out at get tests tomorrow!

Jumping on the drinking topic late but wanted to share- we both abstained from alcohol for the first 2 months completely, then just drank during AF for the third month. Then we both drank regularly for the fourth month. I think we were actually a bit tipsy the night we conceived and then I had a cocktail party a few days later and drank a few then.
When I discussed with the midwife, she laughed kindly at my concern and said it wouldn't affect the baby at all that early and as long as you stop when you know you're pregnant, there's very little risk.
I say go for it, drink it you want to. TTC is stressful enough and I firmly believe we conceived when I stopped being so bloody paranoid about it and loosened up. Honestly, I was obsessed. It's the hardest thing to do I know but if you don't know how long it'll take, it's not fair on you (or your partner) to let it take over your life.

I'm out. Af arrived a couple days ago. I had a blood test yesterday so I should get those results after the bank holiday. The positive is that I'm on a hen weekend so at least I can enjoy wine and cocktails.
Good luck twinkydink

Keep strong twinky. You want your Starky's star! Don't test yet!!!!

Morning ladies! How is everyone doing? Just checking in and hoping some of my hormones rub off onto you lot in hope that they'll gee your ovaries up.

kwick you doing ok lovely?

My nausea hasn't allowed me to read a lot about cm and stuff but it has died down a little so I'm popping by

hi miley [waves]

I am in ISW, and so far neither OH or me are ill, so doing much better than previous cycles !!

I have a confession to make...I cracked under the pressure of my own head and tested early. I feel like a wally, I gained nothing from doing it except for a possible faintest of the faint line. I asked my DP what he thought and he said he couldn't see anything and went about his business. When I told him it was AF due date, he said 'well why did you test today then?!' as if it were pure common sense. Which obviously it is, I should have waited, but my thoughts were driving me crazy.

I took a couple of pics, what do you guys think?

Even if there is a line, I'm preparing for a chemical pregnancy...I don't think i'd ever really and truly believe I was having a baby until I was in labour anyway!

But yeah, i'm a plonker. Then I fell over in my own bedroom and grazed my knee. Saturday is off to a racing start!

I'd say that was a positive ktt512 congratulations! What kind of tests are those? I've never seen them before.
Another non-believer eh? If it makes you feel any better I'm 10+2 and still don't believe I'm pregnant. Like really truly don't believe it. It's an odd feeling.

Really?? Good grief...I'll test again on the 4th and see but i'm going to try not to get excited just in case! And i'll try not to buy out the baby clothes section at Tesco when I go later

It was from Amazon www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00BWZBJRU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 do you think they're going to be reliable? I think i'll get a First Response for next weekend if AF hasn't arrived by then to be really sure!

As long as it was in the time limit of less than 5 mins or so when you took the pics. A line can't be produced without hcg, you don't produce hcg until after implantation. So its a positive test. (Just in a side note though, some of the early tests can leave shocking shinies/evaps which can be very misleading. Definetly get a frer, leave it a few days (or until af is due) and test again.