smack those rats, sniff those drugs; we dont care how, but we will get our babies and we are BROOKING NO ARGUMENT

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This is the beauty of it Keep - we're not private, this is an NHS funded cycle and the NHS will actually fund some of the extras. We don't have to pay for everything, only some things. That's what makes her so lovely and the NHS in this area so astonishingly brilliant.

Ah, d'oh

That is fabulous news imps good to hear that there are some consultants who are up for going for it and as she says why not give it a go.

Sorry to read about the bfns. It is such a lottery and my heart goes out to all of you.

Afm I'm 33 weeks and practically discharged from consultant led care. Last growth scan yesterday put the little nipper at 1.98kg so more than double the size Will was when he was born. Just one more scan left in a couple of weeks and then it's downhill to d day. So I'll be making some room for a bfp around 23 Nov so keep your eyes peeled. If only we could come up with a name for our newest little chap. Have no ideas currently - was all sorted when it was going to be a girl and now we are back in team blue I'm lost! Only 2 more weeks struggling into work then it's straight into half term but after that then I can have a rest...

Ohhhhh Hinks what super news! Glad this BBB (Blue Brooking Bean) is doing so well. Hmmmm, names for boys are much trickier than girls' names. Is there anything at all that you and Mr Hinks can agree on?

Did you think it was a girl at an earlier stage?!

Brilliant news for you Imps, and such a relief to have an empathetic consultant! I'm super-brooking for you :-)

And great news for you, too, hinky - not long to go, now! Have you tried posting in Baby Names for ideas for your soon-to-be baby boy? (I have a name picked for my imaginary baby boy: I often think of his name when I'm speaking about my dds!)

BTW, if you haven't used the Names forum before, they can be harsh/insulting but you have to pitch it right; as in don't blab a name you're thinking of, rather ask what might go with either a) the names of your other children b) names that are similar to your existing children or c) names that are similar to names you already like (you could ask for boys names akin to the girls names you like).

hinks glad he's chubbing up nicely. Are you relaxing now?

What's going on with everyone? It's sweltering in my office - radiators broken and won't go off, then every time I go outside I freeze and remember it's winter!!

I'm too scared of the baby name topic. It's frightening! We'll figure something out I'm sure. imps we were told at the 20 week scan we were having a girl the. At a later growth scan (we've had loads...) they checked and lo and behold it is now a boy!

Not relaxing yet unfortunately, another week at work then half term with my two chaps to get through then as of around 1 November I will be in feet up mode for sure

I am still totally in love with the name Stanley but very unlikely that I will be able to use it as I seem to make girls and DH doesn't want any more :(

I really like the name Stanley Pasta - it's modern yet classic and not overused yet

Oh my lovelies what a week at work. The most hellish and knackering week I've had in a long time. Thank god for a day off today to get some chores done and rest my weary soul.

I DEMAND to hear ALL Brookers' news - come on lovelies, what are you all up to??

keep so sorry about the BFN, I hope you don't have to wait too long to do Another fresh cycle.

imps what a fab dr you have, I'm struggling to get my drs to agree to something as innovative as a scratch - they'd probably explode if I started talking about NK cells and treatment with or without testing :o

hinky glad that BBB is growing well

Sorry I've been missing for a while, I've been insanely busy at work, but DR started 2 weeks ago, injections start today and EC is planned for 28/29th. I'm in for a scan on Wed to see how everything is going. I can't say that I'm feeling especially hopeful, but if we don't try there's no chance.

Hi lovely beedle I hope all is going well so far, have you been feeling OK on DR? Are you sniffing or jabbing?

Guys I did short protocol last time, which worked well, what are peoples thoughts on LP in my situation? (No amh issues, 11 eggs 7 fertilised last time) is there any benefit to extra drugs?

Good evening everyone, I'd like to offer my opinion to Beedles and keep, but regrettably, I cannot as I have no knowledge of the particular treatments you are having. I do, however, wish you both well and will keep reading here for your updates.

I don't think we got our timing right this month as I am sure I ov'd earlier than expected. I've got the usual demon-sore boobs (CD17 today) and have done for a few days. I have the same niggling doubts about ttc, but these are just a pattern of habitual thoughts that are stuck in my head from overthinking (does that even make sense? ).

Dd1 has been hard work lately: she's a very bright 6yo (going on 16yo), which means she can be a diva at times. I don't accept that and have been completely honest today by telling her how she hurts my feelings by talking to me like I am stupid. She seems to have taken it on board as the negative behaviour stopped earlier after I spoke to her. Fingers crossed a restful and fun-filled half-term will be the thing to bring my chirpy little chick back!

3yo Dd2 is still very interested in babies and played with a realistic-looking doll in a toy shop today. Dd1 joined in and it was a lovely sight to see them gently co-operating in handling that doll. It gave me an idea of what my two little girls fussing over a baby would be look like. It was nice None of that doom that I seem to have so vividly painted in my head.

keep I discussed with my dr about changing protocols this time and we agreed that as LP had worked Ok for me (in terms of eggs and number fertilised) there was no real reason to change. So far we're doing everything the same, slightly different DR drug but its still a nasal spray and the same dose of Menopur. So I think I would stay with short protocol. The only reason you might want to change is that its a little easier to plan dates with LP, though I don't know if that's an issue for you or MrK or for having someone to look after kip.

Stabbing is going fine, though I'm feeling quite depressed, MrB's brother has just had another baby and we really ought to go and visit, but I really don't think I'm up to it just now. I can't see that it will be any easier in a few weeks time either. Luckily we don't see them that much, but they do live close enough for us to make just a short visit. I'm also surrounded by pregnant women at work and even male colleagues whose girlfriends are pregnant.

Thanks beedle i would tend to agree, I'll see what they say on Thursday, eek. True re timing, but I suppose we will know within a few days what to expect.no idea what I'll do about work etc, will cross that bridge when / if we get there

In the meantime it's shag week sigh

You are a total trooper. Pregnant people are everywhere aren't they. I expect you should do a short visit now, since as you say a couple of weeks won't be any easier. At least you won't need to stay. Do they know what's going on? Hope they can at least be sensitive, and maybe that newborn smell will whip your ovaries into churning out some winning golden eggs. Hope you feel a bit better now you're stabbing, I know DR can be hard.

Hello Lovely Ladies

Keep I'd prob stick with SP if I were you - 11 eggs is a good haul and they were clearly good quality to be able to make 1 baby and 3 freezable blastos. See what they say but as you've had good results with SP it possibly doesn't make sense to start experimenting now.

Beedle hope stimming is going fine and there are some nice juicy follies there. Maaaan it's tough re: new babies. Only go when you think you can face it - you can always say you're poorly if you want to send Mr B to d

I was at a party yesterday and my friend is 8 months gone (her due date is what my due date would have been had IVF#1 had worked). Every other woman there was a mother so the conversation all afternoon was about mat leave, child birth, pregnancy difficulties etc etc. God I felt so envious and so left out, despite joining in as much as I could. Then the inevitable "never have children Imps, it's all just so difficult" comment happened. Grrrr. Still, onwards and upwards.

Sorry pressed send in a panic as thought I was going to lose my post.

Beedle was saying that you could pretend you're ill if Mr B wants to do the compulsory new baby visit sooner rather than later. I figure that we Brookers spend so much time putting our emotions on the back burner to celebrate new children that we should not be ashamed or afraid to say for once "Fuck it. Seeing this baby will make me sad, so I am not going to see it." There's plenty of times you'll see it in future.

Mol, DD1 sounds like she keeps you on your toes. You have excellent child management skills by the sounds of it!

Right, back to work. Have been thinking a lot about leaving my job and my profession completely of late, but not sure what else I would do. Hopefully I will soon be on mat leave though so I won't have to think about it...

Oh imps ffs. None of those women would swap what they had, I HATE it when people say that. You are wonderful, conversations like that are hellish. I'm firmly in 'when are you having another / ooh look I just look at my husband and I get pregnant again ' territory

I seem to have spilled petrol on myself and smell, am about to go into a meeting, and look/feel rough - (kip being a little tyke at night.) Bring it.

Brookers LAUGH in the face of smelling-like-diesel-in-important-meetings Keep.

Hi lovely brookers. I've been lurking and not posting since Jeoffery showed up and helped me forget my password..

How many of you are under Bourne Hall now? I've been thinking I should offer a Brookers retreat here (I'm in a village close by!)..

I didn't realise you were so close to BH Musical!! How exciting!

How are you lovely?

+ive opk this morning, we shagged last night but used normal lube whoops so better get on it again tonight. God, could I BE any less excited...

We have friends staying on sat who are having a surrogacy pregnancy with twins

Hi musical no I'm not round there anymore, I'm in brum ...

Isn't TTC-based Sexy Time such a specia and romantic thing Keep?

AF arrived today - interesting it means that the Clearblue digi ov stick which I doubted so much last month was bang on. There was no chance of a BFP this month given lack of shagging so am pleased AF is here as it's the last attempt before next IVF round. I've been on the evening primrose capsules as I've read that they're good for EWCM - I had none at all last cycle.

Loopy if you're lurking, I hope you're okay x

Well, "none at all" is an exaggeration - I had a very small amount and none in the 2 days before/on ov.

Just thought I should clear that up.

Dildocam done, a few 10mm follicles and a few more smaller ones. The dr has increased my dose of menopur and I'm back for another dildocam on Monday. I've never had a dildocam this early befpore so I can't compare it to previous cycles (I used to just get a blood test at this stage)

keep I hear you about sexy time actually being a bit of a chore :o

Waves to musical

What day of stims are you on Beedles?