'TTC after a miscarriage - new thread'

[Janus]

Well tried to add my bit to old thread and we have reached 1000 posts again!!
Chocolatepeanut, am so sorry for what you are going through, although you sound as if you are handling it well so far. Hope things aren't too bad for you in the coming days.
Rubles, sorry if AF does arrive, bloody bitch! My blood tests will be next week. DP sperm test threw up 'abnormal sperm' and he needs to go and discuss with the GP later this week although she did say it wasn't too much to worry about. Been meaning to start a new thread on this but haven't got around to it.
I'm looking for a yoga class to try and help me relax! Do think this whole TTC is stressing me out so much, I'm so conscious of age gaps, both our ages working against us, even worrying about if we do conceive in next couple of months as worked out it would be a July or August baby (my oldest is July born and is struggling bit with school etc). Part of me thinks it may do us all some good if I just stop ttc for a couple of months, then the other half panics about an even bigger gap, etc!!
How on earth do you all manage to relax about all this stuff??

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Hi all, just went to consultants. We are no further forward on knowing what happened to disrupt the pregnancy so much to lead to the prematurity of Bertie, except I do not have a Bio-chemical issue or gentic disorder. They did not have the genetic tests for Bertie back or the results from my placenta. But they know of examination of the placenta after delivery it was unhealthy. They took bloods from me today to test my bloods to see if I have a blood clotting issue and need aspirin (or if needed fragmin or heprain)(apparently they can only take blood after pregnancy for the best reading - as I thought they had done these tests before I left the hospital after delivery) . He recommended a break of 6 months between pregnancies, but due to our prior fertility issue we decided with him to start trying again immediately (So you will see me a lot from now on guys!) If we do not catch again after a while he will refer us back to CRM again. He has told me to take folic acid and pregnacare from now on. He has also booked me in for a scan for PCO, incase I need hormone's during pregnancy to help prevent M/C. So we are officially TTC from tonight (lucky husband!!)....so scared in case we do catch and have the same problems, or we don't catch and have fertility issues again.... oh well we will never know until we try! Anyone got any tips on things to take to conceive?

Hello - hope all is well and happy on this thread.

We're just back from 4 days away, I haven't had a chance to read through the thread properly.

Congraluations again UKi on your BPF, that's great news!

I so glad you got AF Oinker, but I hope I never have to say that again to you! I hope you are looking forward to your holiday now, which you so deserve.

Hello everyone, who I know I've missed, I'll try and catch up again properly tomorrow when not so tired.

I'm 11/12DPO, so still waiting. Not going to get too hopeful though as this is also CD52, so it's a pretty long cycle, which I don't think bodes well!

Take care all

x

Many congratulations Uki!!!

FF...

How was the break?
I have been having a bit of a nightmare since yesterday. Have posted on bereavement thread. Won't go into it here.

Not even started the packing. The cases are still in the loft. I will have to start getting sorted as we have the skids at the weekend and taking them to Paris as part of their crimbo ppresent. DH is away all week on a course so am home alone and trying to chill out.. With wine

Hope you are well and refreshed.

Oinker - big {{{{HUGS}}} Hunny! I've just read your other thread.

Take care of yourself.
x

Rahrah- what a shame they didn't have some of the test results back. Have they made you another appointment to see your consultant when they do? It would put your mind at ease considerably if there were some kind of cause for Bertie's prematurity.

I hope you get pregnant asap if you are feeling strong enough emotionally. I was only 13 weeks along when I had my miscarriage- I cannot imagine what you have been through over the last two months, and you sound so strong.

On another note, I ordered some ovulation predictor sticks last week, just in time for I supposed my fertile time to be. I was right, we did the deed several times, strong positive this morning, the OPK stick went negative this afternoon (got a job lot on ebay, so am still having fun with them...), so it's just a question of wait and see.

Hello rahrah1. So sorry to hear of your loss - I can't begin to imagine what you are going through but like everyone else on the thread my heart goes out to you. I do believe zinc helps with healthy sperm but I didn't know about folates for men so I should probably get him to take multivits too.

UKI CONGRATULATIONS [SMILE]. Keeping everything crossed for you. I think most if not all of us are comforted by your good news - not alienated by it.

Duchesse - good luck for next month. Makes you wish you could time travel sometimes eh. I hate waiting to find out!

Hi All

rahrah -glad to hear you are having lots of investigations, i hope they find some answers as to what went wrong with the placenta.

I always m/c at about 7/8 weeks which i think also maeans the placenta has trouble, as this is the time it should start to take over. I therefore am Taking asprin as I have been tested and have slight thrombophilia. I see my doctor friday so hope he has some advice for me too. He did previosly recommeend Calcium for my high blood pressure, not sure if i need it now though.

Festive- your cycle is incredibly long is that longer than normal??? Maybe you should test? good luck.

Oinker-so sorry about your friend, I hope you can get some resolution before you go away.

Thanks festive, firststar and Gillian for the congrat's much appreciated

Thanks also Plummymummy, What's news with you?

Thanks all, will not get another appointment with consultant now, that was the only one they offer in regards to Bertie and investigations. The consultant will write to me in regards to the results from yesterdays blood tests and the missing results from yesterday (Bertie's genetic tests and tests on the placenta). He has just advised to see him as soon as I know I'm pregnant again to get treatment if required for blood issues - if i have a problem. Otherwise I can contact him if we do not catch again and we will get referred back to CRM. Also have a scan - dependant on that he might refer me to a different . He thinks from his experience Im likely to have a blood clotting issue, which becomes an issue in pregnancy (like Uki).

Husband is on Multi V's and I'm on pregnacare from yesterday, so hopefully getting all the Vitamins we need.

I am praying that my fertility has been kick started by Bertie's pregnancy and it does not take as long to get pregnant again.

Duchesse - good luck

Uki - How many week gone are you? Really happy for you.....

Morning all morning rahrah

Good luck in your TTC this month, I think it seems unnecessary to wait 6 months like specialist says. Although for me i always have the first month after m/c off. I kinda need the head space

Have you had one AF now or not yet?
will the specialist send your tests to a dr or something so you can discuss them?

sorry for all the q's just trying to look after you hun.

rahrah-i guess i'll be 5 weeks on friday, so very early days. It already seems like an eternity and i only found out yesterday. I am keen for a scan to know all is well, i guess.

Speaking of scans firstar is having one right now, and i hope she doesn't mind me telling but she had a few pains and spotting. So i would like to wish her tonnes of luck.

Can relate to the head space...last night I was up half the night feeling guilty and upset about getting pregnant again. But I know when my brain clicks in that it will never take anything away from Bertie. Having a baby has been our main focus for the last couple of years, so it is hard to switch off and give yourself some space. Defo not waiting 6 months!! It would crucify me to wait that long.

The consultant will send the test results directly to me via letter to advise outcomes, as he has discussed what to do in the event of any of them flagging something up. The placenta test will just show the degree of damage to the placenta and not the cause (so that ones of no use anyway!), Bertie's genetics (he is not concerned about that as no genetic problem would have caused the issues that occurred is my pregnancy and baby did not have any obvious chromosome problems) and in the event of a blood issue being discovered I need to start taking aspirin and the he will decide once pregnant whether I need daily injections of something like heparin or fragmin. If I do not catch again they are investigating PCO and I will be referred back to CRM for drugs to assist with conceiving.

Not had an AF yet, but been bleeding for 4 and half weeks since having Bertie. Not bleed for about 2/3 days now. I think I am ovulating as had a pain down my side two days ago. Loads of people have told me that they have caught prior to actually having their first period.

No problem on the questions

Sending positive vibes to firstar - wishing her all the best...xx

Uki - when have you been offered your first scan - we had one at 7 weeks with Bertie, and you can just about see a dot! It is such a relief at that stage to know the baby is growing in the right place.

It is so mad.. every day of my pregnancy seemed like eternity, as bleed and had stomach cramps from 10 weeks to 13 weeks and then from 18weeks to delivery at 24 weeks. But now I am not pregnant time is flying... it is so unfair!! WHY oh WHY does it take 9 long months for humans!

Rahrah- while you were bleeding, did you have a continual dull pain in the uterus, a bit like muffled period pain?

I know my little Vlad almost certainly had a severe neural tube defect, but it was almost as though my body was trying to jettison him from 8 weeks onwards. I just wondered whether maybe it was the continual large blood clot causing the pain it rather than the abnormal foetus itself.

Morning duchesse, hope you are well.

I had constant pain, which ranged from period pain from to serve pains in my sides. I started getting pains from as early as 6-7 weeks into my pregnancy. Just mild cramping at first and then it got progressively worse. I defo had bleeding in my uterus as they were seen on the scan. I often had clots and at 22 weeks had a big shadow over my placenta. It felt like my uterus was squeezing everything out and the Bertie seemed to be hanging on for dear life, until my membranes went...then we were buggered! I think it is around the 22-24 weeks that the placenta really kicks in and is needed for growth, so activity increases and hence why things become even more problematic around that period.

They have not found any medical issues with Bertie to date, but we did not have a post-mortem done and we are still waiting on the genetic tests, but my consultant does not think any off this is down to the baby. How did you find out that Vlad had neural tube defect?

We found out the possible cause when our sonographer, at the scan that revealed that Vlad had died, told us she wasn't even sure there was a brain or skull, which would indicate anencephaly. She said this to reassure us that s/he was doomed from the start. I actually did find it reassuring, as the pregnancy had been deeply unpleasant to that point. It was almost a relief to discover that there was indeed somethig very wrong.

Oh, and defo blood pooling in uterus on every one of my three scans- large clots, that came out bit by bit over a matter of weeks, only to be topped by a fresh bleed. The last one showed a large clot clinging to the placenta.

I think we had 9 to 10 scans and everyone showed that the baby seemed perfectly healthy. He survived for 6hrs after he was born, but we turned his ventilator off due to being told they could not oxygenate him to the required levels. Due to that he was having circulation problems and would have caused less oxygen to go to the brain. If we had kept him ventilated he could of survived longer but would of developed major damage. They put on the death certificate that he died from extreme prematurity, pro-longed rupture of the membranes and premature lungs. We had senior baby doc's look at him and all said he was health apart from the prematurity. But the baby doc has said she will write to us and we can go and see her and she will talk in more detail about Bertie.

But the blood thing sound very similar....

Poor little Bertie. It is still very rare to survive unscathed at 24 weeks; a lot of people forget that. Death rates are still very high, even if it is the legal limit of viability. My little Vlad probably did not plug in properly because of his/her problems, but poor placentation is usually fatal in itself, in the absence of any other problems, genetic or not.

I would imagine that the preceding two weeks of low/no amniotic fluid cannot have left him in good shape to face outside life, either. And if he had poor placentation (for whatever reason,) as you say, he could have been at an even large disadvantage. I'm convinced you did the best possible thing for him, Rahrah.

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