We are jolly well going to have the number of babies we want and we will BROOK NO ARGUMENT. Join us if you refuse to take "no" for an answer and like smacking rats.

[Imps9]

We will get there. We will all of us get there. And we will brook no argument.

(Re above, they hang around and live as long as there is fertile cm, if there is no mucus then I believe they die fairly quickly, so any attempts to DTD when there is not fertile cm is pointless)

Reporting that we've got one little bean on board measuring 12+2 and a hb flickering away

that's brilliant hinky
keep dh does help but I do feel like its mostly me. sometimes I feel like I have loads to do trying to work, look after N and do the housework. i work 2/2.5 days a week. on the one hand I realise I need time to myself but I feel guilty about it so don't very often have an extra hour or so in bed or take a long bath. I sometimes wish me and dh spent more proper time just the two of us as well.
for some reason I have it in my head that I should be bouncing off the walls like a children's tv presenter entertaining and playing with N constantly and be teaching him new things all the time. i often find myself thinking right what now, we've read some books, pushed cars around, built blocks....I also feel awful if I do find myself getting wound up by him eg if trying to cook and he's whinging and clinging to my leg.
N doesn't always take a nap anymore so any housework is done while he is awake(i refuse to do it once he is in bed as dh will be in bed too so there is no way I'm staying up cleaning by myself) sometimes I feel guilty about that, especially if he's whinging while I'm doing it. I know he needs to realise that I have to do other things though. N is good at playing on his own so I am lucky he's not always making it difficult for me to get things done.
argh now I awful for complaining.

trix I know what you mean, and I also feel guilty about spending time on myself. And youâ??re right about couple time. We sometimes have a â??date nightâ?? even though we are in, but just rather than watching tv we spend the evening together. I donâ??t think itâ??s right that you say if you did the housework in the evening he wouldnâ??t help. In our house itâ??s the rule that neither sits down till the other does. So if Iâ??m putting on the washing then heâ??d cooking etc. I think it is all quite relentless, but it gets easier. I canâ??t believe N is not napping every day already!! That must be exhausting for you. Is he not knackered? Itâ??s very early to give up a daytime napâ?¦ I also find itâ??s much easier on my days alone with S (not that I have many now L ) to go out. She is happier, the house is less of a state, and I donâ??t feel the need to do housework. Though she does love to help me â?? she takes cutlery out of the dishwasher one thing at a time and brings it to me, helps load/unload laundry etc. They just adore to copy us and I donâ??t think it is a bad thing at all to have them help and watch us. So rather than trying to make him do something else you could involve him? Yes, it takes a whole lot longer, but then thatâ??s not a bad thingâ?¦ I think cooking is particularly hard, as itâ??s dangerous, and obvioiusly they canâ??t see. I have tried putting s in her highchair to watch, with limited success so far. Usually S is whigy when she is tired or hungry, so I do better to cook at other times than these

Do you have friends locally? It can also be quite isolating. Donâ??t feel bad at having to entertain him all the time. My DH is a bit like you, but I am happy to leave her to it, or let her lead play a lot rather than drive it. Yes her games may be boring and repetitive (how many times can I fake-clean a dollâ??s bum) but thatâ??s how they learn.

Iâ??m sure youâ??re a fantastic mother! Lots of love x

wtf has it done to all my apostrophes?? sorry

he's not usually happy in the high chair in the kitchen either, even when he was tiny he would just scream if I tried to bring him in there and put him in his bouncy chair!
we start his bed time routine at 7.15 so he is in bed asleep by 8. that time works best for me and dh but yes N is often knackered!
I thought it was a bit soon for his napping to have gone right down! last Fri he didn't nap even when we took a trip out to town quickly! he hardly ever stays awake in the pushchair. also Tuesday's he will often skip it as we go to a group in the afternoon at the time when he would probably sleep . But when he does sleep it can be any time of day (somestimes not long after he's gotten up) and anything from 40min to 2hrs.
I have said said to dh that we i may have to start doing things in the evenings so we will see.
for the most part like you I'm happy to let N play and I know he will make it clear when he wants me to join in. I've been trying to involve him with laundry and dusting so far he's not too interested haha! but I feel it's important for him to learn. I don't know some times I just Start to doubt myself.
we have several friends close by who don't work or are part time like me I'm just terrible at organising things and weeks can go by with out seeing them and I think I've seen my bestie twice this year.

he's fast asleep snuggled with me at the moment snoring his head off. poor things got a cold and horrible cough, he saw the doc yesterday as he was wheezing with it but that seems to be better now.

s really likes a routine these days. you could try and keep his nap at the same time, say 12, and see if things are more consistent. getting out in the morning helps keep her awake... but a good nap makes kip a lot easier. enjoy your snuggles!

I will ! they don't happen often any more .
thank you for listening to me.

Phew, DH managed to finish DTD last night, so dear universe if I haven't already ovulated then can you hurry the fuck up and deliver me an egg pronto, now cd 28 and it would be lovely to not drag it out much longer! Fertility friend thinks I'm 7dpo but I just don't believe it is right. Either way it would be nice to have ended the 2ww by the 1st June as I've got consultant appointment that day and it would be very convenient to pick up progesterone and clexane whilst I'm there given its about a 45 minute drive from home....if the universe would see fit to give me a BFP by then....just saying lol

i think today was otd beedle? thinking of you x

Evenin' all.

Am sat in an airport waiting to fly back from a fabulous and very indulgent long weekend with Mr I. It's CD1 here - we have our consultation at BH tomorrow and am pretty sure treatments start on CD2. Do any fellow IVFers know the odds of them being able to give me some Suprecur at my appt tomorrow so I can start downregging?

I feel like I'm on Challenge Anneka - cutting it down to the wire time wise to start my next treatment!

Beedle am also thinking of you lovely. Hope you are okay.

I don't know imps as was abroad, but I'd hope so
I'm going to call my clinic for an appointment tomorrow too

Ooh where have you been Imps?? I've become desperate for a holiday since realising I won't get one for a while so need to live vicariously through others fingers crossed for today. I had a teach appointment for my first IVF on day 21 and they gave me drugs to start downregging that day which so it is possible. Good luck x

Beedle thinking of you and MrB x

Loopy Brooking for that BFP. Yay to DTD, I sympathise on the performance front as my DH got to the point where he couldn't 'perform' it was so frustrating but I just had to accept it and somehow make it seem spontaneous every time It was bloody exhausting

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Hinky fantastic scan news! Have you started telling people yet?

Cartoon you sound like a great mum to me and believe me I meet some crappy parents through my work who wouldn't even bat an eyelid over worrying if they do enough with their kids

I'm feeling pretty miserable myself as am already really uncomfortable. Baby is so high up I'm really breathless and cracking ribs and hips seem to be par for the course. I can't bend or even sit up straight as its agony. I'm wishing the next few weeks away!

ooh cups that sounds painful. cracked ribs, eek! hope he comes at 37+1, like my little one. where are you planning to give birth?

have just been transferred to 3 Dept's at my clinic, and in the end just have to leave a message...

yes imps do tell us about your trip away!
I really fancy a nice relaxing beach hol, think it will be a while though.
thank you cups I'm such a worrier and over think everything! I can make a mountain out of a molehill.
sorry your uncomfortable, that last bit is the worst! but not long now. he will be here before you know it.
I'm very slowly having a clear out of the whole house, finally got myself on eBay! this is prompted by a couple of things really. we are redoing the living room soon so I want to get rid of all the crap first! plus we all have far to much stuff, the spare room houses all dhs clothes , some of mine , Ns stuff he has outgrown, books and other random bits. so need to get that sorted really if we want to have another small person in this house . I think I just need a skip to Chuck it all in!

Hello lovelies!

First thing's first - we need a new thread. Who's is going to be who who who? I started this one so we need someone else this time.

Secondly ouchy Cups am willing the weeks to fly by for you so you can stop being in so much discomfort. Hang in there, he's nearly here!

Weekend was to Portugal - we just fancied a couple of nights in the sun. And we got bucket loads of it - it was 31 degrees the whole time we were there! Had a lovely time with food, wine, a beautiful hotel - it was tres chilled out.

Appt was fine yesterday. Am going to start on the short protocol maybe next cycle or maybe the one after - that's down to us to decide - we have a couple of trips planned which may get in the way. Good news about Mr I - his swimmers are now twice as good as they used to be - still v low count (4.5m) but it used to be 2.2m! Morphology up from 0% to 2% and motility up to 26% (can't remember what it was before). So the drugs they recommended are clearly having an effect.

The downside is me - despite high AMH and good initial response to stims, they simply cannot explain why the response tailed off and I only ended up with 4 eggs. The consultant said that it's very rare for that to happen! So we're trying short protocol to try to preserve number of eggs while limiting risk of OHSS.

Bring it on, I say!

I fancy a nice relaxing beach holiday too, shall we all go together.

Imps that's great news re Mr I Shame you still have some unexplained bits but at least you have a bit of a plan.

Loops hope you're busy brewing that baby!!

I'm in Sparks! I need some sun in my life how are you feeling? When's your 12 week scan?

Imps your holiday sounds lovely, I'm not jealous at all that's great news about MrImps SA. I switched to short cycle for my second go as I didn't res

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I switched to short cycle for my second IVF after producing rubbish eggs first time around. Short cycle didn't seem to work any better for me but my consultant at the private clinic we moved to said he though it was more to do with the way the cycle was monitored than my body. He disagreed with the drugs and when EC was. Fingers crossed it will be better for you. I think Keep did short protocol for her cycle in thailand. Am I right Keep?

As for me baby has moved down a bit yay! Not much but enough for me to actually be able to put a whole sentence together without running out of breath!

yes I did short as well, I have to say I've never quite understood the point of downregging. horrible extra drugs... takes longer. imps that's great news, so you'll be starting next cycle? brill! I hope they can monitor it well. great news on mrI.. still time for a FUFC bfp.

yay cups keep circling those hips and walking a bit each day

did you stay SP at your new clinic cups? or back to long?

I've made a new thread but can't link as on phone