We are jolly well going to have the number of babies we want and we will BROOK NO ARGUMENT. Join us if you refuse to take "no" for an answer and like smacking rats.

[Imps9]

We will get there. We will all of us get there. And we will brook no argument.

Here was me thinking that things were a bit quiet on here, turns out you fell off my TIO.

DD2 is 5 weeks old today, time flies. I've booked us a holiday to Butlins in June, it's an under 5s week so hopefully DD1 will be entertained. My birth debrief with the consultant is on the 30th so I will find out what happened with this birth and whether having another is ok or not. I do want 3 but DH is too scared after DD2's birth that he wants to stick with 2.

Yay to all the good things that have happened to you all, boo to any bad things and I'm off to finish making tea.

Well, dd2 turned 3yo this weekend. I'm in CD13 ... still unsure ... want to just take the risk but scared.

Pasta, sorry if I missed a post but what happened re the last birth?

So here, a light AF started today, so officially on cd1 and am now in the cycle where I can ttc again. Fingers crossed the next bean stays put as I'll be on progesterone and clexane next time.

Hope everyone is well.

I had a post partum haemorrhage and lost 2L of blood. They had to take me to theatre to stop the bleeding.

Pasta, FWIW, I don't think it's necessarily the case that if you've had a PPH, you'll have another after another birth. I think the chances might increase but the hospital would habe extra blood products, just in case.

It must have been incredibly frightening. Good luck at your debrief.

How are you feeling now?

I feel fine thanks, strangely I wasn't scared while it was all going on. I seemed to have a FFS what else do you want me to do attitude. The only scary things for me were people sticking needles in me and fiddling with the drip because I have a severe needle phobia. Being told that they couldn't stop the bleeding and that they wanted to take me to theatre didn't bother me that much other than I wanted to go home and this meant I would have to stay in longer.

Oh, another thing I think is connected to PPH recurring is why the first PPH happened: whether it's a maternal clotting factor issue or whether it was to do with length of labour/mode of delivery, etc.

Glad you're feeling okay and relatively unaffected

Meanwhile, after dh withdrew after dtd last night, I cried I asked him to pull out: he did and then I had a little sob (CD13 yesterday so am possibly fertile/about to be). It's weird when, in the middle of dtd, trying to decide whether to risk getting pg or not So I chicken out because all the conflicting ideas are racing around my head, then I seem to worry about not taking a chance.

I think I'm going a little loco!

My problem is that I think too much and so over-complexify things. I tend to be three steps ahead in my thinking and therefore worry about things before they've even happened (if at all) - I have this on two fronts atm ('if we stick with 2, then x, y, z' vs 'if we have 3, then a, b, c'). That's why I'm worked up about this (and stuck) so I just need to take a step back.

So I'm thinking today that I have worries/reservations, yet I keep thinking about a dc3 in our lives: the bottom line is that I always return to thinking about one last child even though I worry about certain possibilities. Maybe my gut instinct says to ttc, and then everything else can fall into place if we conceived.

It's the anxiety over the 'what ifs?' that's clouding my judgement, I think.

Anyway, how's everyone?

Sounds like a good plan young mol. My feelings were confirmed by being really disappointed by a bfn. It helped confirm I was doing the right thing for me.

Afm I'm busy mentaling about all the the things that can go wrong. I've seen so many crappy things happen to friends so not feeling overly confident about my scan. 3 weeks to go...

pasta scary stuff and hope you are all recovering well.

hinky am also on the mentaling bus, scans so far have been fine but am terrified they find some sort of abnormality due to my dodge eggs! Trying to be positive. Little far keeps telling me 'we are having a baby' and that its a 'boy' which is freaking me out as we have said nothing to her so I am hoping she is right (and thinking about entering her into Britain's got talent after witnessing the hypnotist dog I think a psychic toddler could a hit, non?) 3 weeks to go here too.

mol I think leave it to fate and see how you feel about a BFN or indeed a BFP!

imps here is to the frostie cycle, how are you enjoying your days off?
waves to maybe
In other news, a good friend of mine is in Nepal but is safe (although scared), those poor people.

It is quiet in here! All ok at the 9 week scan, measuring well and good heartbeat. We are going to go for Harmony testing due to my age and decrepit eggs, anyone got any experience?

Glad you had a good scan Far! No idea about the harmony test I'm afraid

I'm 9 weeks tomorrow well I think I might be close to 8 but who knows!! Booking in appt on Friday then have an early scan booked for next week so I'll be between 9 and 10 weeks!

Great news about your scan, far

Happy booking appointment for Friday, sparkle

good news far

I'm hiding. a friend guessed at work today which was a little awkward. hanging on for another couple of weeks until the 15th for my scan. I've been lost in the system for booking in but fortunately a good friend is a midwife and has offered to do it for me tomorrow at home. so nice of her.

not had any experience with harmony testing. I'm 37 so feeling pretty ancient so think we'll wait for the nhs scan and test and then figure out what to do based on odds I guess.

I'm cold and bored of being cold grrr
back to work I guess...

I'd lost you all!
roll on booking in and scans hinky and sparks
great news on your scan far have no experience on the harmony test but did look in to it when I got high risk nuchal with pebble (pregnancy before N). There seems to be some threads on it in the antenatal tests topic. are you thinking you will have it anyway or just to find out more if you get a high risk nuchal? (which u won't of course)
as for me there's nothing more interesting than normal everyday life going on! we are not ttc at the moment I'm still unsure so am waiting for a sign or something I don't know what but I think I need to feel more certain about it than I do. I am hoping all will become clear and I will just know!
N is not always sleeping well and can be up for 2/3 hours in the middle of night. I'm trying to get out of the habit of having him in our bed because it had started to become most night s and dh was often in the spare room because of it . N is usually up at around midnight so I think it's more habit now. I'm having to use cc and let him cry it out abit as he gets worse if I try and soothe him, he grabs and clings to me bacause he wants to be picked up but it's so hard to then get him back in the cot that I try not too. Not fun in the middle of the night

Thanks, I have had a peak at those threads and it certainly looks encouraging in its accuracy. I am having the test at 10 weeks, it takes 2 weeks to come back so will tie in with the nuchal scan results too.

hinky how nice to have a midwife friend, very reassuring. I have certainly noticed that the system seems to be creaking at the seams compared to 3 yrs ago. The clinics are heaving, midwives even more stretched and my local hospital has been closed to women in labour quite a few times in the past year. Scary stuff.

catoon that is very tough. Could it be teeth? We did cc with little far at about that age, and whilst it was tough, it really worked in 3 nights and she was much happier for it and better rested, as was I! I now know that if she cries at night there is something really wrong so I respond immediately.

it is certainly nice to have a mw pal. made the 2 hour booking in much more fun.

We did controlled crying with f at about 20 months I think as he was needing me to hold his had while he went to sleep which gradually crept up to an hour or so.

cc was unpleasant but worked within 3/4 nights. I truly believe that helping him sleep better was worth the short term pain. I know some people think it is too harsh but we are all much happier for it. if only I could get my 5 year old to stay in bed when he is put to bed....

am in full mentalling mode about the nuchal testing. just one more thing to panic about I guess. blergh

thanks hinky & far good to know you both used cc ! i thought it was teeth, they do seem to be coming through one after another at the moment, but was worried it was becoming habit as it was pretty much the same time every night. to be honest I need to find other ways of settling him or settle himself rather than take the easy route and bring him to our bed.
I dont do specific times with the cc maybe I should. I just leave it as long as I can manage or until the crying is getting really bad again. the first night I gave in after 3hours and brought him in bed with me the second I had to cuddle him to sleep after a couple of hours which took two attempts. but I didn't have the energy for anymore! then it was the weekend and he slept really well so thought we had cracked it but he was bad again the beginning of this week. last couple of nights he's slept quite well but very whingy and grumbly. I got up several times last night but just to make sure he had his dummy then he is fine, which is how it always used to be.

Hello delightful làdies! Sorry for absence - have switched my phone on for first time in nearly two weeks as have been on holiday again!! Feeling v rested and relaxed and ready for anything.

Delighted to hear about good scan news Far! I absolutely love a FUFC BFP with a happy ending. AMH AMSchmaitch I say. Just shows you how life will always have the final say in how things will be.

Mol how are you doing? I wish we could help get rid of those little gremlins you have. It's so good that you can write so objectively about it though - I hope in some way we're helping.

Hinky how are you feeling?? All good?

AFM it looks like I'm ovulating earlier than usual so my consultant's appointment will likely still be too late to start next round at start of cycle 3 post-IVF!!! Bodies eh. But how perfect would this be...we are in the city where Mr I was born (it's the first time he's been back since he was 6 months old), am ov'ing today, we've had The Sex and if I got a BFP it would prob be on what would have been my due date from my BFP last year. If I was in sort of schmaltzy Hollywood film, this set of circumstances would DEFINITELY end up in a sticky BFP. So... bring it on

Hello Imps, lovely to see you back again Happy to read that you have had a good old rest and I really hope that everything works out for you in true Hollywood style this cycle

Bless you for asking how I am. Thank-you. I think you're spot-on when you talk about my doubts as gremlins. That makes a lot of sense; something I'll label those doubts as when they appear in my head (I'll let you all know how that new name works). I'm still not 100% but feeling more positive about just stopping contraception for the next few months and just see if anything happens. Like hinky has said, a BFP or BFN (after dtd at a fertile time!) might be what I need to make my mind up. (Although I always do swoon over young babies and I'm pretty sure dd2 would be such a sweet big sister ...)

And DH asked me eariler 'when can we have another baby?'

I'm almost due AF so I'm leaning towards May being my brave month, and perhaps then we might have a 7y and 4y age gap for a dc3.

Life in general has thrown a bit of an ugly as it appears that dd1 (6yo) is being bullied at school. It started as this other girl excluding my dd from games to physical aggression on Friday. I spoke to my dd's teacher and the girl's mother. I'm going to have to raise it with the head after the Bank Holiday though, as the other mum (obviously) was having none of it.

Hope everyone else is okay?

Molotov that sounds awful for your daughter, poor thing!

Imps that would be an ironic BFP to beat ALL BFPs!!!! Brooking super hard

I'm officially a MEPP, early private scan booked for next Saturday for no real reason other than impatience!