We are jolly well going to have the number of babies we want and we will BROOK NO ARGUMENT. Join us if you refuse to take "no" for an answer and like smacking rats.

[Imps9]

We will get there. We will all of us get there. And we will brook no argument.

Lol Imps [smi

All sounds good! (Well, squelchy pants aside)

Wohoo!!! Brilliant news Imps!! Got to love a bit of squelch

Beedle, if there were special circumstances, I think they would tweak things, but it somehow seems to always work out for them! My clinic only offered a very mild sedative for EC, which wasn't even enough I make me woozy. But it was over fairly quickly, so wasn't too bad at all.

Boo to the disagreeable pee stick Sparks

wow imps! you'll have a rugby team brooking for Friday. my ec was done under sedation but I think I would have been fine to do that seminar the next day. I walked home on the tube myself etc.

good luck for stimming beedle! I agree about the weekends at maybes clinic wtf. I think I will have to DR for my fet for this reason, so they can control timings. it's a bit annoying!

but brookers I just got rejected for a job I interviewed for on Monday . I'm so sick of this. I just want a permanent job so I can try and get pregnant again

dh is now struck down with d&v just as kip recovers...

Molotov right. pros and cons of no 3. do it.

Oh no Keep. I'm so sorry to hear that. Job hunting is soul destroying. And poor MrK. I hope you manage to avoid it lovely. It's hard trying to fit around clinics timings. That's why I had to dr for longer. Keeping everything crossed a job comes along soon

"taken the plunge" - there's a euphemism if ever I've heard one!

wow imps that's fab, no wonder you can already feel your ovaries! Have they warned you about OHSS?

keep sorry about the rejection, don't they know you're a brooker and would be fab. Hope MrK feels better soon.

The nurse said that I'm not at the point where they are particularly concerned about OHSS but I am one to keep an eye on.

Bad luck Keep - sorry you didn't get the job. Did they give you feedback?

well done imps's ovaries! what's ohss?
keep that's rubbish how could they not want you!

Ovarian Hyper Stimulation Syndrome - basically your ovaries produce too many follies and you get ill. It's best avoided!

You won't generally suffer from OHSS till after the trigger. Just make sure you drink plenty lovely Imps.

How are you feeling about everything Beedle?

Any news Pasta?

imps great new thread and great follies, blimey!!
I stimmed for 11 days I think, EC on day 13.
Keep drinking that water and milk (which absorbs the extra oestrogen)
I was sedated but out for the count, totally asleep and very nice it was too!

keep so sorry about the job and the sickness, darkest hour is just before dawn and all that!

maybe how bizarre, am glad it worked out for you it seems odd though to only have EC on one day!

Imps that is some impressive follicle growing there.

Keep they clearly didn't realise that you are a Brooker, maybe you need to mention this on your applications in future.

Couple of twinges and some uncomfortable braxton hicks today but I don't think anything is going to happen soon. Will be 38 weeks tomorrow so still potentially 4 weeks to go. Went out for afternoon tea earlier and having Chinese for tea. I only like the curry from the one in my home town so making the most of being down with my parents. I live 40 minutes away so can't really justify driving down here just to get a takeaway.

You so can Pasta!

Well I became reacquainted with my curry at 2am and then repeatedly until about 4:30. Will be very glad when the sickness finally buggers off. Can't even make the most of dd being at nursery today and have a lie in as the carpet people are coming this morning to measure up the kitchen

first injection done last night.

Does anyone know how much extra protein I should aim for? After imps mentioned kvarg a while ago I found some whilst shopping and have stocked up, it tasted OK.

pasta you're heavily pregnanat, you don't need to justify anything!

The problem I am finding with the protein Beedle is that it fills me up so much, I don't have room for more protein!

I read that 65g is good to aim for - I've no idea if I am getting that amount or not. Certainly eating a lot of eggs, nuts, 0% Greek yogurt and drinking barrel loads of semi-skimmed milk and water.

Great stuff re first jab though!

I chickened out again last night, despite eyeing my car up for how a 3rd car seat would fit in the back (absolutely do-able, btw) and looking wistfully at new prams and baby clothes. I was with my DM and shehas said in the past - and again yesterday - that she envisages a third baby for us. I blurted out after a couple of glasses of to my DM that:

Me: I just wonder whether we should try for one more! Before I get too old!
DM: Well, you still have time.
Me: But I've been thinking about it for 13 months and I just don't know!
DM: Well Only you can decide ...

And that was it. She can be difficult to talk to sometimes; maybe this is uncomfortable for her? She was physically present but somewhat emotionally absent at the same time when we were having fertility investigations/treatment in 2011. (For example, she promised she would go in with me when I had a HSG, but at the last minute, changed her mind so I was in there alone, which I absolutely did not want). Also, I know she thinks my hands are pretty full already. I thinj she finds my real emotions hard to handle, and that's why I rarely let the deepest ones out (to DM, anyway).

All the practicalities weigh so heavily on my mind: we couldn't have another baby in this house as there is not really enough room as it is, and a move wouldn't be easy (we need to save more).

I'm also scared of really wanting it, and it not happening.

That's a lot to get out on a Thursday morning!

Can I have a silly whinge to you? (don't know why I asked as I'm going to do it anyway).

At work I keep a 2 litre jug on my desk so that I can fill it in the morning and drink it during the day. I've always done this, but it's more important than ever now that I'm plumping up my ovaries with follies.

Anyway, my colleague has started helping herself to my water. MY water. Without asking!! This pisses me off for two reasons: 1. I either have to refill it myself or I won't get my 2 litres; and 2. She completely invades my personal desk space by hovering behind me unannounced and then leaning across me/my desk to get the jug. I find this infuriating, especially as I see her looking at what's on my screen/desk as she does it.

It's really annoying but at the same time it's so petty I can't bring myself to say anything. I think the only solution is to buy her a jug of her own as a present. Yep, that'll make me look like a lovely person AND stop her being annoying (in that respect at least).

That does it, I'm going jug shopping at lunchtime.

Mol - I feel your pain of indecision. What if you don't decide and let nature decide for you? If it happens, it happens; if it doesn't, it doesn't.

Will see if I can think of any better words of advice during the day.

imps that's not silly that's down right rude! reminds me of a similar thing I had at work with a bottle squash. so I had me some squash in the kitchen, was perfectly happy to share if you ask!! the new guy just kept helping himself, luckily he didn't last long so I didn't have to have words about using other people's stuff with out asking. can I tell I'm still annoyed haha
mo I just wanna give you a big hug. Ok so in my opinion nothing is ever perfect and if you let practicalities get in the way you won't do anything. so the only important question is do I want another child? yes - then go for it and see what happens. otherwise you may regret not trying.
sometimes I think we should let it at one since we had 3 mcs before ds but I know I would regret it if I didn't at least try. money would be tight too but who cares!

I think the regret thing is a huge point, Mol. If you don't try (because of fears of money, space, practicalities or otherwise) then in 10 years time you may look back and wonder why on earth you let relatively minor concerns stop you. That is something you will never be able to change.

Re: difficulties of conceiving, this may happen and it may make you sad. But sadness is much easier to adjust to than regret.

Boooo to no real symptoms - makes the 2ww really boring doesn't it? You could just make some up...although no symptoms = diffed does it not?

Discovered this morning that quark + oats + raisins + a smidge of maple syrup = bloody nice breakfast #recipeoftheday.

Gotta run, I can hear the dildocam calling me.