Roll up! Roll up! Mount those uni cycles and shake those pom poms. The Elderberry Pavlovas are drumming away in the hope of a Christmas clusterdiff (Thread 24).

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The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+ months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and definitely no mention of baby dust or baby dancing).
Those not abiding by the rules may be escorted from the premises.

The roll of honour:

Gillster 40, TTC Feb 2012, IVF Feb 2014 resulting in 6 frozen one day embies. No transfer due to polyp. Failed FET cycle in September due to polyps. Starting 2nd FET cycle on 4 Nov.
Happylass 36, TTC since Aug 2012. Antibodies in DH's sperm. 1 unsuccessful cycle of ICSI September '14. Starting cycle 2 in January.
Smidge, 38, TTC since Jan 2013. Unexplained. IVF#1 Short protocol July 2014 yielded 1 blasto, BFN. IVF#2 in process - Long Protocol Oct/Nov 2014
Serenity 34 TTC Jan 2013, unexplained infertility, DH has textbook super sperm, 3 rounds unsuccessful clomid, 1 ICSI June 14 with complete fertilisation failure, next ICSI Nov 14.
Jelliebabe - 40, Threw the pills away 8 years ago. Unexplained but have a very low AMH, 1st IVF with clinic in Prague, 2 embryo's, chemical pregnancy. 2nd IVF in London branch of clinic - 1 embryo, BFN. Hoping to go back to Prague for Donor eggs in January
nolly, 32, TTC since Sep 2012, unexplained. 6 months clomid did sod all, next appointment 29th Oct, hoping to start private round ivd soon.
Pixie, 33, TTC June 12, DH has zero sperm count but managed to extract some under surgery, start downregging in a week, long protocol, ICSI Nov
Tigerdog 34, ttc 21 months. Unexplained after all tests and currently on waiting list for IVF.
Beaky 34 ttc since aug 2012. Unexplained with recurring cysts and adenomyosis. 1 failed IUI, IVF appointment in November and hoping to start first cycle in January.
Bushy 36, ttc since dec 2011, low amh, ovarian reserve, dh sperm had low count & motility but improved to 'normal' standard, IVF/Icsi in May bfp, then later missed miscarriage at 12 week scan. 2nd Ivf imminent but not sure if dates will work over Christmas.
HampshireBlues 36 TTC since August 2011, unexplained. 1st cycle of IVF chemical. Had a break over the summer. Cycle 2 planned for November
WildflowerMarmalade , 40, TTC 3 years, unexplained, underactive thyroid + immune issues. Sept IUI - BFN. Due to start IVF in Jan
lumen, 35, ttc since Nov 11 without a sniff of a bfp, unexplained, had only nhs funded IVF summer 2014, no implantation, trying self-funded IVF Nov 14, currently mid cycle
AnnieHoo 41, ttc July 2012. Unexplained. MMC Nov 2012, MMC May 2014. IVF Oct 2014 BFN. Waiting for FET.
Trill 41, TTC since March 2013. Endo with one completely blocked tube and one kinked with adhesions. Currently stimming.

And Gil's handy guide to the current IVFers....

Smidge - PUPO on 3 Nov
Pip - ET on 5 Nov
Lumen -EC on 5 Nov
Trill - day 5 of stims
Pixie - week of DR done
Seren - stimming yet?
Gillster- start DR on 4 Nov
Kuma - you starting soon???

Busy day in Berry HQ! Can hardly keep up! Congrats spare and trill on being PUPO! We didn't get a photo either but they did show it to us on a screen via video link as the embryologist was preparing it. Have to say I was a bit teary at that point - must've been all the hormones!

FUFC! FUFC! FUFC! (Marches around chanting.)

Clusterdiff!! Clusterdiff! (Waves football rattle hollering). Bring it on.

I just had to get that out of my system.

Right, I'm off to the sauna. Nobody get pregnant until I'm back.

Haha Wild I love that "nobody get pregnant til I'm back"

Yey PUPO Trill and Spare well done!

So much going on, loving Gils organised list to keep us right!

Clusterdiff! Clusterdiff!

beaky and wild will you stop talking about wine please! Trust me to pick a Friday night to not be allowed any!

Will find out for you tomorrow wild. I only know her bloods were sent to the US for testing as not done by any labs over here.

I want a glass of champers too spare to toast bushys FUFC, but I will have to put up with more water!

Awesome list Gil!

FC called back and was really helpful. If it is AF I'm to go in first thing Monday morning for a scan, if it stops, carry on as normal till start of next cycle.

Happy Friday - let this be the start of the next cluster!

Hello all, former Berry just checking in to say congrats to the PUPO folk and Busheeeeeeeeeeeeee I am so pleased and excited for you

I know you will need time but I am so hoping to see you back on the grads thread soon. We have missed you.

Hi rp, hope all is good with the dino?

Busheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey!

(Or "bus he sees we see you" as my tablet wanted to put!)

Cluster DIFF , cluster DIFF what do we want a cluster diff, when do we want it? NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW!

Bushy!!!!!!!! So happy for you darling! Amazing news! Praying that this is the start of a Berrie Christmas Cluster Diff! xxxx

Thanks wild, you really did make me laugh out loud when I read your latest posts!

Cheers ladies! It's very lively in here. Congratulations on joining the PUPO club trill and spare, hope your 2ww doesn't drag.

Hello all you grads, hope everything is going well.

Love the racing analogy gill although I'm firmly a spectator in the race to the Christmas clusterdiff. Will be cheering everyone on to the finish line though.

Happy Friday y'all!

I just love all the positive energy on this thread! Like wild said, bring it on!

Had a nap, so pooped I couldn't keep my eyes open. Think it was the emotional stress of it all, you know?

How are you spare ? Are you on any medication? Did you mention clexane?

pip are you still going strong? Any more kitty predictions ?

Thanks for the stats gill

Waves to everyone else!

trill
I feel like a one woman walking pharmacy! Clexene stabs for the next 5 days, then only baby aspirin
Plus prednisolone plus clyclogest pessaries plus the usual vitamins for the duration of the 2ww.

I'm drinking fizzy water out of a wine glass. I'll level with you all. It isn't cutting it.

Lol spare ! I'm on plain ole water. I might crack open the ginger ale soon, woohoo! What an exciting life we lead eh?! But it'll be worth it if it helps our precious cargo stick around wow! You're on a lot of drugs! I've got the vitamins as well but I've been on them so long now it's just a part of the daily routine.

spare
Talking about pharmacies, I knew that I was going to run out of needles for my gestone injections so I called the clinic to ask if they could post some to me. They couldn't post them. I couldn't get there really as DH had the car. So I went into Boots and asked if they stocked them. I showed them the gestone with my name on to prove I wasn't on drugs.
They had some! When I asked how much they were they told me it was free as they were covered by the needle exchange.

Ha! Pip you ARE on drugs you nutter! Lol

Lol Pip at the needle exchange

Erm, since I'm such an alco I can recommend the pink schler (tons of apologies for the appalling spelling!) but it tastes like rose wine
Spare and Trill my wine so far tastes awful

Bushy that is amazing news!! Congratulations you must be thrilled - don't keep beating yourself up over whether you needed IVF or not, it doesn't matter how you get there! Have a fantastic weekend

Pip that's great news about Boots. I love Boots. I miss Boots. I just trust them and I don't get that same comfortable feeling in the chemists over here. I'm sure they are absolutely fine of course, but I get the impression they're all independent franchises (I may be wrong) and somehow it just doesn't give me the same confidence.

Beaky, no the nurse didn't give any explanation what might cause the embie not to implant - or whether that is common in failures etc. I will ask AliG though, and also ask if the same thing happened first time round. Spare I also have raised NK cells, so AliG put me on Clexane - a blood thinner - which is meant to help with immune issues. Is the prednisolone a steroid? She did mention a steroid version but seemed to think it wasn't really any different in effectiveness vs the Clexane, and had a lot more side effects - and yes, needed to be weaned off it etc. sounded a bit scary so I was glad to go with the Clexane - not sure if she'll change her mind now. Must say if like to start the Clexane a bit earlier next time though, as maybe my immune system engulfed the poor embie as soon as it was transfered - I didn't take my first shot of Clexane until about 10 hours after transfer. lunen I'll be interested to hear how your visit goes - maybe I'll be able to suggest a diff treatment to AliG (ha ha, bet she'll love that!)

Spare I'm so glad you have a defrostie on board. Congratulations! Sorry about the others though.

Kuma weird AF cycle! I seemed to go back to normal straight away after my first round of IVF so was just assuming it would happen again like that this time. Let us know whether it really was AF.

Wild it's a nickname my OH coined after realising that our 'Dr Gee's first name was Alison! Hadn't even occurred to me but yes, it has definitely stuck!

Fingers crossed Pip. I read on another thread someone very recently who was convinced they would get a bfn coz they had a 'heavy feeling' like preAF - but she actually got a BFP! So now I am thinking heavy feeling = good news!!
I really hope so.

Gosh, such a fast moving thread in 24hrs. Sorry if I've missed anything else.

Hubby and I are going out for a fancy breakfast this morning. Not really compensation for the bfn, but there's no point moping around the house wailing it's not fair. I have tried, it doesn't seem to help

Those must be Chicago tests, lumen. They are analysed in the States, the clue's in the name there! Look forward to hearing the details.

And Smidge yes, yes to keeping an eye in the immunes too. Maybe your NK cells need a different treatment, as you suggest. Go and tell AliG what's what.

Fancy breakfast sounds yummy. I'm planning a bacon sandwich in the morning, yummy.

'...there's no point moping around the house wailing it's not fair. I have tried, it doesn't seem to help' What!? It doesn't help? Oh no. I was counting on that to help me.

pip
Did they make you hand the old needles in?! I felt so self conscious when I had to pick up a sharps bin from the clinic and take it home on the tube and bus

smidge I'm on Clexene because it is supposed to be good for blood flow in the lining, which helps with implantation. But the prednisolone is in case of NK cells. The test for them is really invasive and expensive so my clinic just treats everyone as if they've got some, because there is no side effect (beyond the weird steroid side effects!) from taking them. They seem to throw everything at me!

spare. No, didn't have to hand the old one in!

Talking of injections, I've just got undressed to find that the whole damn thing has leaked out. I'm living in hope that it was in there long enough for the good stuff to get into my bloodstream.

Smidge when my first one failed we took a picnic and sat on the beach for about 6 hours.

Smidge how you doing? did the fancy breakfast help? How long do you think before you can see AliG?
4 PUPOs! Can you believe it? Such an terrifying exciting time for you berries.

Just having a sort out and noticed I have 20 one step ovulation tests (ICs) and 11 clear blue sticks for their new monitor (from the good old days when I did a user test before it went on market before we found out about DHs issue). Message me if any of you berries on natural cycles could make use of them and I'll post them. on.
I also found a pg test that has a use by date of dec 14 so I'm taking that as a sign...

Added to Pixie's offer, I've got about 15 pimp Internet cheapie opk sticks if anyone wants them?

I had a little dark clot when I wiped this morning. Trying to persuade myself it is implantation bleeding or from where they had prodded around with the catheter yesterday. God this 2ww is going to kill me