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TTC after a MC (I'm really rubbish at thread titles sorry)

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DoctorDonnaNoble · 28/08/2014 19:25

The Rules...

(1) A lady may only POAS on a Friday.
(2) Friday means the day that everyone calls Friday in the time zone where you spent the night.
(3) Rule (1) does not apply to POA-OPK-S, UNLESS they are being illegitimately used as surrogate HCG detectors, in which case Rule (1) most definitely does apply
(4) Rule (1) does not apply following a BFP because if you want to waste £25 a day POADigiS that's your prerogative
(5) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady is POAS in an attempt to get a BFN to prove she can start DTD with intent
(6) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady wants for unknown reason to pee on an actual stick, like a twig or some such, if that lady is unexpectedly caught short whilst tramping in the forest looking for bears.
(7) These rules (including Rule (1)) are subject to the change at any time if the ladies of the Posifrickentivity thread decide on a whim come up with empirical evidence to prove that it is luckier to POAS on any other day of the week
(8) Violators of Rule (1) shall be subject to fish throwing.

And as a grand finale, why not pledge to NEVER POAS before 14DPO?

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thesmallbear · 06/09/2014 16:54

Hi igniminious sorry you are going through this at the moment. It's shit Sad

I was bleeding so had 3 x scans at 8, 9 and 10 weeks. At 10 weeks they confirmed that the pregnancy was not viable and I had medical management. I was 10 weeks by my dates but the sac was measuring 7 weeks.

On 11th June, I had the medical management (pessaries) to bring the miscarriage on, but the pregnancy sac didn't leave my body until six days later on 16th June (Wed). I passed a smaller piece of the sac/tissue on 24th June (Tue). Did a pregnancy test on the Sunday and got a faint positive (by this point my bleeding was only light). Had an appointment at EPU on 2nd July (Wed - 3 weeks after given pessaries), & pregnancy test came back negative, so I didn't need to be scanned for retained tissue. They asked about the bleeding and I said it was light now, but when I did the sample for the pregnancy test it came out bloody Blush. EPU told me the bleeding would settle down and I'd get my period in about three weeks. The bleeding got heavier though and I was convinced that the reason the sample was bloody was because my period had started. I then bleed for 10 days with clots etc (on reading various message boards, it seems this is common for 1st period after MC). My hormones were crazy bad at this point; left over pregnancy hormones on top of period hormones. My other half was convinced it was my period as I was showing all the tell tale signs!

However, I could be wrong and maybe the above was all MC bleeding? If none of the above bleeding was my period I bleed for 4 weeks and 2 days post medical management. My next period was August 1st about 7 weeks post medical management.

ignominious · 06/09/2014 18:34

Hi small bear thanks it is a bit isn't it! Looking forward to being a blank slate again. Are you glad you went for medical? I've found it fine physically but emotionally it's sending me mental. My timing has been almost exactly the same as yours though without the retained tissue. So your bleeding never actually stopped before what you think might have been a period? Mine did get really really light. Now Ive got loads of clots as you did. If this lasts 10 days like you, there'll be nothing left of me.. Hope I get period 7 weeks in though.

Sorry hijacked thread a bit. Thanks for making me feel better. Hormones/emotions are going crazy.

thesmallbear · 06/09/2014 19:35

Hi ignominious, yes the bleeding went down to spotting and then went heavy again and I was convinced the second lot of heavy bleeding was my period. I never fully stopped bleeding. I was convinced it was my period at the time but not sure now.

Medical management was a disaster for me tbh. I had a very bad reaction to the tablets and was violently sick and had a severely upset stomach. They told me it would be like a heavy period but I actually had contractions Sad I wrote about my experience on these threads.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/miscarriage/2124857-Scared-im-going-to-lose-this-baby

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/miscarriage/a2139540-How-to-know-if-miscarriage-is-progressing-normally

Do you feel like you made the right choice or do you wish you'd gone for surgical?

ignominious · 06/09/2014 19:49

God yours sounds awful! And I wonder why they didn't give you painkillers to take home? I was given two sorts and told to just keep taking them! I only needed them a couple of times but it was good to have them around :/ poor you.

I didn't want GA and the nurse strongly advised me against local (!) which would have been my first choice. I wonder if the erpc helps with heavy periods too? Should probably have gone with the local as i feel I'm running out of time age-wise :( Would you have gone for local or general? What reason did they give for your MMC?

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thesmallbear · 06/09/2014 20:16

It was honestly the most pain I've ever been in in my life and the most ill I've ever been. I understand that my reaction was probably unusual, but I wish they'd advised that it 'could' be that bad so that I could have prepared myself for it. I know they don't want to scare people, but if they'd said 'this is the worse case scenario, only happens in x% amount of cases...' at least I'd have been prepared a bit more for when it happened.

I'm not sure what I'd have gone for surgical wise. I've heard that people who've gone for local have had to have gas and air so it must be pretty painful. I think I would go for GA surgical if it were to happen again (touch wood it bloody doesn't)!

They don't know what caused the MMC. Were you able to get any answers? I know they don't usually do any tests until you've had 3 MCs in a row. They did look at the sac under a microscope to rule out a molar pregnancy, but don't know anything more than that.

Treaclepie19 · 07/09/2014 06:02

Hi ignominous, sending you big hugs. Such a shit place to be :(

I'm currently feeling awful. Have stomach cramps, feeling sick, diarrhoea. Was at a festival yesterday so hoping I didn't eat anything dodgy :(
Worst thing is the discomfort reminds me of the miscarriage. Stupid I know.
Ugh :(

ignominious · 07/09/2014 07:41

Thank you treacle. Sorry you're not well. I feel like a lot of things are going to remind us of miscarriage for a long time.

Small bear they just said lack of growth, it was measuring 8+3 at 10 weeks (had been 6+5 at 8 weeks). I don't know how they can know so accurately. Surely there are big and small embryos. But maybe not at that stage?

Last night I was thinking more about what you said and maybe this is a period. I haven't bled this much in weeks. Using a trial tampon this morning. Let's see how long I can go between toilet breaks now.

Tori I wouldn't have wanted to be in hospital either for the same reasons. Sounds like yours went as ok as it can I guess. Not a fun thing to have happen. Where are you in the ttc cycle now?

thesmallbear · 07/09/2014 08:39

ignominious I found that taking a liquid iron supplement helped. The vitabiotic's feroglobin is really good.

The baby stopped developing very early on I think, but the sac continued to grow for a while so I had pregnancy symptoms. The most I saw of the embryo was a small grey dot which they said 'may' have been the foetal pole (the weren't even sure). There was no heartbeat and by week 10 everything had reabsorbed back into my body Sad

Treaclepie19 · 07/09/2014 08:40

You're right about that.
Its all so clear, my cramps were terrible too. I was in pain for ages but the worst was on my birthday, from 5 until 9 I had constant severe cramps. Only had Paracetamol as they wouldn't let me have anything else. I remember saying to DH that if labour was like that I couldn't do it :p

DulcetMoans · 07/09/2014 09:44

Morning all. Thanks for all your advice, I called 111 and they said the same about A&E so I went last night. Felt silly when I got there though, I wasn't ill enough but wanted to prevent getting to that stage. They didn't do much but they have booked me a scan for Tuesday. Should get blood test results back tomorrow so hopefully get an idea of what's going on after those two things.

This morning the bleeding has changed to be redder and more if it so now wondering if a natural MCis on the way and not ectopic. Not sure but feel shit either way.

Sorry, I know that's a bit me,me,me. Will catch up with you all later, have been working so a bit behind.

thesmallbear · 07/09/2014 10:20

Treaclepie I know and in some ways I can't believe I'm willingly going to put myself through that level of pain again! It'll be worth it if I get a baby next time though!

Dulcet I hope everything turns out ok for you!

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longestlurkerever · 07/09/2014 10:40

I am sorry Dulcet. Please don't feel silly. When I had spotting in early pregnancy I phoned the midwife and she sent me to A&E. Don't be put off going back if you are worried again. And of course you feel awful. If it is another miscarriage it is heartbreaking.

DulcetMoans · 07/09/2014 11:47

Sorry to turn this into a live MC thread but I think it just happened. Had some cramps, passed some clots, found what I think is the egg on top. Didn't find that with my last one. Looks like a little ball of fat attached to a clot. Fished it out but not sure what to do with it now, I know doctors won't look at it until it's number three.

The silver lining is it wasn't ectopic I guess but that makes two years trying and two MC in four months. It's like they say about buses all turning up at once, but in this case none of the buses are for me...

Treaclepie19 · 07/09/2014 11:55

Oh Dulcet I am so, so sorry. Might be worth going to the hospital/doctors just to get checked out?
Please don't worry about being me, me, me. You're really not. It's a horrific time and we're all here to support you.

littlebear, that's my thinking. A baby at the end would make it bearable!

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DulcetMoans · 07/09/2014 13:16

Thanks both. Im ok really, I knew something was going to happen this time at least and didn't hurt as much.

Did any of you see what you think was the baby/egg/whatever we call it? From what I've read online u think this is probably it but who knows!

littlebear - the thought if the baby at the end is what keeps us all going! It has to be worth it.

longestlurkerever · 07/09/2014 13:24

Dulcet I am sorry. You are right that the bus won't test until three but you may have the option of private testing if that interests you. If it came back as chromosomal normal you might persuade your gp to refer you. Sorry for such a practical post. I just wanted you to be able to consider the options. Hugs and take care of yourself

ignominious · 07/09/2014 13:39

Dulcet I'm so sorry. Look after yourself. Could you afford private testing instead of waiting to try a third?

Yes I saw the foetal sac, felt it come out. Didn't want to look too closely. Stupidly google imaged it to make sure it was the right thing and saw lots of terrible things :(

Treaclepie19 · 07/09/2014 14:01

I felt it come out too but wouldn't look at it. Left it in the toilet for the paramedics to see but obviously they didn't care when they turned up.
MIL kindly came over and flushed the toilet for me before I got home :/

I hate these days when I just think I can't go through that again. You ladies are all so brave x

Look after yourself Dulcet xxx

Treaclepie19 · 07/09/2014 14:48

Has anyone got a short luteal phase?
I'm really wondering if that is what caused the miscarriage. Especially since they thought it was a blighted ovum.
The doctor didn't take me seriously when I asked, just said I conceived so it's fine.

MrsConfusion · 07/09/2014 16:32

dulcet so sorry my lovely, take care of yourself. Awful to go through this, sending lots of love. Take the time you need.

Tranquilitybaby · 07/09/2014 16:50

Checking back in to see how you are dulcet, I'm sorry to read what you're going through, huge hugs to you xx as you say the only positive in the terrible sadness is that your body has dealt with thing naturally. Xx take it easy x