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buzz that was a beautiful post. Awww.

fox that all sounds absolutely lovely and very well timed.

Thanks for the good wishes, ladies. It's difficult not to menkul but spending the weekend in Paris was a great distraction (and bloody knackering so I hope I won't have the energy to lay awake menkulling tonight).

Buzz your post made me all warm and fuzzy. Lovely to read, lovely to imagine. Enjoy your little girl!

Hurrah for sun, it makes such a difference, doesn't it, fox? I am pleased you're having some good time away.

Sorry about the health concerns about everyone, sar. Hope you'll all be fine in the end. Don't feel bad about not posting!

Hope everyone had great distracting weekend, I think euro did particularly well. Crossing everything for good results today :)

Morning ladies,

Cos oh no :( I'm so so sorry. I hope you get some answers soon but I was so thinking this was going to be your turn. How massively unfair. And I'm sorry MrC has been insensitive. Hopefully just man upsetness. Thinking of you lots Xxx

Critter I too am so sad that you have to grieve James. The snow sounds beautiful and I'm glad your mum is being a rock. I loved your photo share on the other place. You and your family are in my thoughts a lot Xxx

Pout and Dev I hear you on the mum stuff. I have a very open mother, who started sharing our troubles with anyone and everyone (to be fair I told her it wasn't a secret, I just didn't expect her to tell literally everyone!). I was really when she recounted telling a lady whose kids I babysat for three times in 1998, in detail, about the tests I was having because she was training as a midwife and understood. I was so and I definitely didn't get her back by telling lots of friends that some tests she had were probably for something nasty she caught when she was young when she told us she was having tests / seeing a consultant but refused to tell us why she was having the tests / seeing the consultant And now there is mil stuff to throw in. I often wonder where these middle age women get off. I really do. I am angry for you both.

Fox doesn't begin to cover it with the gorgeous picture on the other place! That sun! That drink! Enjoy, it looks amazing :)

Euro glad you had fun in Paris. Lots of finger crossing for the scan, which will be just fine.

Buzz what a beautiful post.

Sar sorry about stressy illnesses and little Sar having tests. How bloody stressful.

I was a late bloomer too. I think my teenage photos and awkwardness would hands down beat all of yours. I looked awful: I was painfully awkward and at the same time very bolshy. Mr P was at my teen album as were all of my friends on my hen do when they saw a small selection of photos from the "forgotten years" thanks Mum (I'm not really in touch with school friends, so it was all post uni people at the hen do). In fact, MrP says my clothes, hair and glasses were a unique form of "child abuse" and "contraception" combined. My not-so-favourite: princess in 1996, age 14. Going to her first disco with equally awkward french exchange student. Teen princess wore: a tiny electric blue satin wrap mini skirt, thick black tights, baggy, yet too small joe blogs black t-shirt and school shoes shudder. (Princess wasn't a skinny teen but oddly womanly in a sort of dumpy middle age way - read big tummy, hips and no boobs - tiny satin skirts and baggy yet small do no favours to this particular body shape. At all). Hair, blow dried badly as is only possible with a limp, mousy, badly cut bob. 1990s terrible glasses. Braces. Make up and lots of it (slightly green tinge around the jaw line from redness correcting no17 powder). Photo taken against bad 90s middle class decor of green and pink wallpaper. Stripes on the bottom, pattern on the top, border round the middle and matching curtains. Oh the shame! I really tried my hardest to allure the very beautiful boy I fancied that night by dancing wildly to rave and britpop, in his face . I really held out for a snog. Surprisingly, it didn't happen. We did have a nice chat though. I think he felt sorry for me, and you'd have to be a very mean person not to. Oh that's right, teenagers are really unkind by nature. Luckily, I was quite good friends with the beautiful boy and stayed that way until going our separate ways to uni. He even sent me a homemade valentine's card one year. It had the following rhyme: roses are red, Trainspotting's about junkies, Kurt Cobbain rules, I love monkeys.
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Happy Mondays everyone. Love to you all xxxx
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A quick one to say good luck to Euro for today.

Cos - Thinking of you. I hope you give yourself sometime to grieve. Take care of yourself. I would think about getting some answers in a few weeks from the docs.

Buzz - Beautiful and heartwarming post!

Dev and Pout - I know just how you feel about indiscrete mums but in my case is MIL.

Sorry for the poor catch up. Screen time seems to make nausea and sickness even worst so reserving it mostly for work. Miss all 10 plussers and I am trying to read and stay current as much as possible and still cheering all of you on!

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critter how are you doing? Are you snowed in?

cos I hope mr c is doing better and being a bit more sensitive and supportive.

I think I buck the 10+ trend by being an early bloomer. Obviously some of the clothes I wore back then need to be filed in the "what were you thinking" category, but I was earlier than average for physical development, boyfriends, etc and quite a confident teen (although I had some insecurities - what teen girl doesn't?). I think being moderately academic, at a school where that was nothing to be ashamed of (state grammer) helped on that score. My confidence took a bit of a knock in my early 20s though, when some people who I thought were friends treated me very poorly.

Thanks to all those who have sent me their positive thoughts and good wishes. The scan and Harmony results were both good. My age related risk of Down's was 1/131, but the combined result takes it to 1/2,600, and the Harmony result to 1/10,000. The results for Edward's and Patau's were similar. So I can breath easy, on that score at least. Now I'm going to let myself order some maternity clothes, as I am sitting in here with my zip halfway undone, which isn't a good look.

Excellent news, euro. Is this starting to feel real now? Was the combined test done by the fetal medical centre too? Thank you for the info on costs, very interesting

Amazing news Euro!! Now perhaps a note to that embryologist who told you to use donor eggs! And so much for your high Nk cells as well- clearly not a problem! Enjoy maternity wear shopping.

Cos - how are you doing?

Oh Euro I'm so chuffed for you. What a long battle it's been and you're well and truly up-the-duff. Enjoy shopping and the 2nd trimester bloom :)

Thanks ladies. The nausea seems to be easing, so I am hoping that the bloom is around the corner.

ray yes the combined test was done by the fmc too. I wasn't sure if they would just do the nuchal scan, but they also did the Papp and HCG tests that the NHS does to give you the combined test result. So really, 400 was good value as it covered both sets of tests.

I hope my posts today are not upsetting those who are having a difficult time. You are still very much in my thoughts. I personally found good news from long termers a lot easier to take than good news from instadiffers, but we are not all alike, so if anyone is finding my posts difficult, please do tell me.

Hi all, I posted a long message a couple of days ago and it seems to have disappeared.

euro so glad about the scan, hurrah! The little creatures are amazingly baby-like at 12 weeks, aren't they? Aw I am so happy for you. Definitely get some nice maternity clothes… I was too tight to buy anything and just borrowed other people's clothes and really regretted it by the end. Mothercare have nice jersey dresses, strange but true - and you should definitely get some maternity leggings. Yay!

cos thinking of you. Do you know when the EPU will get back to you on tests? Sending you a tight tight squeeze.

princess I love your school disco description. You are such a funny and sparkly writer, I love your posts! I bet you were a lot cuter than you think you were, despite MrP's remarks.

sea so sorry about the nausea. I think I felt sick until about 20 weeks, and tea still made me retch right up until the end. How long do you have to wait for your 12 week scan?

fox the sun and the drink look amazing. MrC and I have just booked to go to the Caribbean for 4 nights in early March before I go back to work, at vast expense. It was your pic that inspired me to actually organise something!

sar so sorry about the family illnesses and poor little mini sar's kidneys. What a horrible worry. Thinking of you.

buzz I loved your post. I think you're a total inspiration and I don't want you to feel you can't go for it with the FB pics - I love seeing baby bee. She is absolutely gorgeous and a hard-won treasure indeed. 10 plus babies remind me how much love and perseverance went into bringing them into the world. You are an amazing person and a wonderful mum.

Waves to ray, pout and devon - incidentally devon I said when my colleagues were asking me whether I was scared to give birth that I thought it would be manageable because my body was designed to do it (because I am wide of hips and you may remember, was also told by the midwife that I was 'roomy' in the pelvic area, ahem ) so I hear you on the irony front!

I am doing ok here - my dad was here this weekend which was lovely. He sometimes has weird premonitions about things and I remember that during the last month of my pregnancy he was really really worried about me and the baby. I would send him weekly update photos of my bump and he told me later that when he saw one of these pictures in his inbox, he could barely look at it because he had this strong sense of dread. I assumed that he was worrying was because of my mum's experience and brushed it off at the time. This weekend he told me that when I called from the hospital to tell him that the baby wasn't going to make it but I was ok, his first feeling was relief because he has thought that his premonition meant that I was going to die too. But he also says now that he has a very strong sense of optimism about the future. Which is really reassuring!

euro Grea news :)

great news even :)

euro that is so marvellous. I am very happy for you. and also wearing jeans with the button undone

Euro what great news! Congrats! A question - how many weeks in did you do your test at the FMC? I'm considering doing the test privately there too and just wondered about timings.

Critters - I'm glad your dad came to visit. It's strange how premonitions can be so accurate - actually a bit spooky but I'm glad he's only seeing good things in the future. How are your feeling physically? I hope you are managing to do some gentle walking despite the weather.

I'm still doing weekly scans at my fertility clinic and all okay so far. I think they will discharge me at 12 weeks provide immunes is no longer an issue.

Euro I read your post quickly at lunch time and breathed a huge sigh of relief on your behalf, that has cheered my afternoon.

Critter how odd about his premonition, how awful for him. So glad he has good vibes about the future.

Mr C has been back to normal, think its just his reaction to bad news to kind of go the opposite direction and start being uber-cheerful. I feel very topsy turvey today, emotionally and hormonally all a bit weird.

Cos - of course you feel like this. You have been through so so much. I know it must be really frustrating when your partner is switching into a completely different mode to you. Men deal with things so differently. Maybe it's worth telling him you need him to be available to talk about what's happened? I'm so sad that this has happened to you again - it's so damn unfair and you don't deserve it. I do feel that you are v close and I just hope they can give you some answers so that the next time will be the one where you get the outcome you so deserve! Big squeeze.

cos I agree, it makes perfect sense you'd feel all over the place. You have had a huge hormonal upheaval on top of the misery of a third mc. Your poor heart, body and mind are all hurting deeply. Be gentle with yourself and take it very very easy. I can imagine how exhausting this must be. Keep going honey, you are so brave and so close now.

sea that's wonderful that you get weekly scans. How lovely. Sending the little ones lots of love.

free hurrah for undone top buttons!

Thanks ladies.

sea you can have the Harmony test at any point from 10 weeks onwards (that's when foetal blood starts circulating in your bloodstream, apparently). Many people have it later than that, if the combined test on the NHS gives a ratio that worries them. I knew I wanted to have it so had it the first day after 10 weeks that I was in the country - 10+4. The results take 2 weeks as the blood is sent to the US, so you get the results and the nuchal scan they do as part of the package then. That was what I had yesterday (at 12+4).

free how many weeks are you now? I ordered my first few maternity bits yesterday.

cos I'm not surprised you feel all over the place. Mr C doesn't have to deal with the physical aspects or the hormonal ones, so it was always going to be easier for him. Give yourself time to deal with it all. x

critter how strange about your dad's premonition. I'm glad he feels optimistic now.

sea that must be nice to get weekly scans. At least there is not so much time to menkul inbetween. I hope the sickness eases soon. I've heard it's worse with twins. Did you make a decision about the new job?

euro your posts are not upsetting. It's always nice to hear success stories, not that it gives me hope for my own situation but because I'm genuinely happy for people with hard won pregnancies. I know there shouldn't really be such a thing as "deserved" but it's hard to feel excited for instaduffers because it wasn't hard work or a marathon for them, and was easily won. A colleague has recently had her third baby in 6 years and there were lots of comments on her FB about how clever she was, and I thought , she had sex. There's nothing clever about that.

critter that's strange about your dad's premonition. My mum is a bit like that, we call her a witch (but a nice one :) ) she often says things that turn out to be true. She once said she thought I'd have boys so I'm holding her to that. The photos on the other place are so lovely. I think about you every day.

I'm waiting for AF, I think she's due on Sunday which means I won't be able to do a fet cycle until April because we'll be away on scan day so I'm hoping it's either very early or several days late. I know that's not likely.

critterpants that is so weird about your dad's premonition. I am also glad he sees happiness in the future. still thinking of you and James every day x

sea great on the weekly scans. fingers crossed very tightly for your and your 2.

cos totally normal to feel all over the place. I took months to get over my first miscarriage and I was pretty sad after early miscarriage/CP so I can't imagine how hard it is to have to go through it a third time. I am still sad I had to live that now even now things are looking more hopeful. Did you get any news from the analysis? I wish I had done that. I was so freaked the first time, I didn't know what to do and I asked MrFree and he said flush it away so I did. I still feel choked that I did that. I send you a big hug.

euro 15 weeks today. Next scan on Thursday. I had one last week for NT scan. Why am I still frightened?

raydown bollocks AF. fingers crossed for better timing.

devon, fox you all right lovely ladies? waves to other lovely ladies, reading, lurking, or otherwise.

Evening ladies. When did I last post? Can't remember where I am in my catchup. I know I haven't yet said congratulations to Euro on the tests/scan, I am very relieved indeed. As Ray said, please don't worry about insensitivity. 10plusser pregnancies are all welcomed, and not at all hurtful. Congratulations on the second trimester, surreal though that must be. Hooray for mat clothes, wishing you a very quiet 6 months now.

Free 15 weeks wow, that's amazing. It was poignant to read of your sadness over previous miscarriages, despite your current situation. I can only imagine that loss is always with you on some level.

Cos, honey I am so sorry you are hurting. Such a rough ride you are having, it's so bleeping unfair. Fingers crossed that the tests give you some answers, and I'm glad MrC is being better behaved.

Critter your story about your Dad's premonition made me gasp. I have a bit of friend-history that made his fears re his daughter feel all too real; he must have been terrified, and what a mixed outcome from his perspective. Relief that you were going to be ok coupled with terrible sadness that his premonition had some weight. Oh lovely Critter, I still think of you all every day.

Ray I am sorry AF timing is being unhelpful. Isn't it always the way. I hope your mum is right on her feelings about your boys :)

Sea I am pleased they are keeping such a good eye on you. Now not only do I have a hankering to get pregnant, but I want twins as well .

Buzzy I didn't really say much in response to your earlier post, though I hope I at least said thanks . It was amazing to read, and I wanted you to know it has put to rest any final fears I may have had about DE, as it's from someone I "know" and trust. So thank you again, and keep posting lovely pics of minibee, she is super-cute. I hope all is well with the Bee family, including Kayla!

So had my call with the lovely Penny from Greece. Long story short, we have to go twice, and I get to send my period to Greece . Not convinced by this one, but MrN and I have agreed this is our Assisted conception Swansong so we need to do all we can. They also strongly recommend MrN comes the first time, as frozen sperm is a serious back-up in case of issues with flights/illness etc. The second trip is up to him, but he wants to be there for any ET, so hence we both go twice. We can't arrange timings until I've sent my blood in the mail. I know some of you have done it so trying to man up. Then they basically want me to write a wish-list of what I want in a donor. Everything from skin colour to hobbies. I have to trust them on what they do with that information; but she seemed genuine and said she knew the donors well. So we are trying to decide if we want an Olympic athlete, a Nobel prize winning scientist, or a famous actress .

Sorry once again I've not caught up with everyone - Devon, Pout, Fox, Ten, all our grads and any lurkers (come out if you are lurking, we are very welcoming, I promise!)

Oh Princess, I must just say - you sounded HOT .

Right that's me, trying to get to bed early at the moment to read for a bit, too much screen time these days. even though I read on a kindle

cos I was thinking about you a lot today. I think your courage, presence of mind, and perseverance show you are going to be an absolutely fantastic mum. You are extraordinary. I know it must be a very very dark time for you right now. But we are cheering you on and wishing you strength to keep going. Don't lose hope.

free you carry the memory of your little bean that didn't make it in your heart and that to me is the sign of a wonderful mother. Your baby is going to be so lucky to have you as his or her mum.

ray I love your mum's feeling about the boys for you. I hope AF cooperates. But if not, April is really really close - only 10 weeks away. It will be here before you know it.

nelly I loved your post. Two trips to Greece wouldn't be so bad, though, right? Expensive, but sunny? Some nice culture and ruins to look around too? And yummy Greek yogurt for breakfast, mmm. It will be lovely to have MrN with you too - much nicer to go with partner in crime than by yourself. Penny sounds great and how amazing that you write a list of what you want in donor. That must be a very surreal, but also really cool undertaking. Are you thinking you'd go for a donor with similar attributes to yourself - hair and eye colour, interests etc?

euro just wanted to chime in that this is your 'home' and you should never feel it's insensitive to post! There are ups and downs and we share the joys as well as the sorrows. It would be unbearable if we didn't have good happy news. So happy for you lovely girl.

Going out for drinks with friends tonight - a milestone for me! And tomorrow is my appointment with the awesome doctor. And it's getting warmer by the day.

Morning lovelies!

Just want to say YAY about the good vibes I get of Penny and the DE route, Nelly. You sound quite upbeat about it. And am

And am pleased mrN will be w you. I am hoping it brings you twins.

Buzz, I am just delighted to read your Posts. Must befriend you elsewhere cos I have been missing on babybee pics. So happy for you.

Wow critter, I am impressed with going out! How was it? You seem to be surrounded by love, which is great. Good luck with your lovely doctor. I am hoping for more answers and some reassurance for the twiblings.

Thinking of you all, particularly those in limbo and waiting. Hope your AF does what you need it for once, ray! How are things, poutster? Still in exotic climes, foxy?

Weekly scans, sea, that sounds great! The first tri is so nerve wracking!

Snap about the mc-sadness that carties thru, free! I started a toy for what should have been our april baby, I still can't look at it. Even tho I feel Lembie everyday and I am incredibly grateful about that...

Morning everyone. Tried to post yesterday and my phone would not let me post....

critter I am also impressed with you venturing out. Evidence on the other place definitely confirms that you and your family are much loved - not that any of us would expect any less of course!!

euro contracts on the wonderful scan news. Hopefully this will allow you to feel a bit more optimistic. The men killing doesn't stop but feelings of hope and positivity do creep in.

fox hope you are chilled out on your sunny hols .

nelly a shame that two trips are necessary but otherwise it all sounds really positive and I'm glad that 10plus donor egg success is helping to assure you.

Must get in to work. Big waves to all I've missed!