All that she wants is A baby! The Berries searching for the 'sign' but never symptom spotting (honest), possibly using a vagina jack and trying to get a FUFC before boarding the IVF train (thread 18)

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Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

Beaky I'm sure Boodle won't mind me telling you that very sadly the IVF hasn't worked this time. I suspect she is taking some time out but if you are reading lovely lady, our thoughts are with you and we are here when you need us

Oh Boodle I'm so so sorry to hear that. Thinking of you.

Boodle so sorry it didn't work this time. My nurse said that they tend to use the first go as a try out and actually do not expect it to work. Doesn't help us as it seems such a big deal to do to yourself and it doesn't work. Still, hopefully onto the next try for you , where hopefully they will have a better idea of how your body responds. In some ways hearing your news reminds me to keep grounded and not expect it to work.

barking it sounds like you've come to a decision re your sky dive. Sounds very exciting!! Personally I've come to the conclusion not to put things off or overthink things because of what ttc may or may not do, but obviously you've got to do what makes you happy and comfortable. Apparently, when I start injecting we will have to take precautions. That'll be novel, the condoms have been gathering dust in a bottom draw for quite some time now!! I even wondered whether they'd be out of date!! I do totally id with because's comment on things getting smaller when ttc and actually no wonder we don't get pg when we fixate on it so much! Do you know now I just don't give a monkeys, just think about all those one night stands who have probably been boozing, pate-ing, over doing everything and they're all fine! I used to really over think things and calculate every little what if and think oh maybe we shouldn't try this mth because we were going on a long haul Holliday and I wanted to fully enjoy the all inclusive, well we didn't take a break and I didn't get pg so would have been a waste of good rubber-lol!! As because says I ended up putting off stuff for things that would, and still are,taking a long time to happen.

kami I'm going to google that book.

Love catching up with everyone on here, makes me feel strangely comforted,like I'm with old friends. I am into the sniffing and trying to workout when a child annoys me whether it's the side effects of irritability and mood swings kicking in or just that they're bloody annoying!! One little darling is really going to test that one out!! My tummy has been feeling quite bloated and sore, not sure what that is. My other thought and... hope is the remaining possibility of getting pg whilst sniffing but tbh it's pretty unlikely, after all we're talking 2+ years! be pretty ironic if it turned up now!

Boodle really sorry hope you are taking care of yourself.

Boodle, really sorry, it did not work this time round. Will be thinking of you. Fx for the next try.

Happy, please let me know how the open evening goes. DP is very pragmatic and says all we need to know are success rates and prices and considers open evenings advertising so is not interested in going to one. I might just go by myself.

barking, congrats on going for the skydive. I'm with beaky on that one though, way too scared to do that.

AF here, on CD20! No idea what that's supposed to mean. Have been sleeping badly and been stressed so am hoping that that is a valid explanation for the messed up cycle. Do not want to contemplate anything else just now but will probably be using opks this cycle now to check ov. I am exhausted, too many sleepless/ short nights and too much going on at work. Night night.

That's shit Kamikaze. Have you seen a GP yet, remind me? Cos that is odd!

Sorry to here that Boodle. PM me if you need to.

Really sorry boodle. Thinking of you and wishing and hoping that the next round is yours.

Hi everyone else. Keeping up with all your updates but taking a bit of time out from posting. Bit down right now but I'll be fine. Hope all's well. xx

Kamikaze we didn't feel at all like they were going for the hard sell when we went to the open evening at CRGW. It was all very relaxed, just a tour of the facilities and presentations by the consultant and embryologist on the treatments they offer (which after all this time on here I've learnt all about from the other lovely Berries anyway!!). Best bit was chance to meet individually with the consultant afterwards to ask any questions.
Bushy I don't know if you remember Sid but she got pg whilst down regging and I think she'd been trying for about 2 years too so you never know.....
Feather sorry to hear you're down. Hope things pick up for you soon. Think everyone's understandably a bit negative at the moment. Will make sure the new thread is full of positivity and maybe even lay out the YBR in preparation for everyone's arrival.
Day off for me today as I'm on strike. Trying to avoid the teacher bashing on TV boohoo that you have to actually look after your own child for the day, I am NOT a babysitting service so I'm off for a lovely walk and lunch with DP. Have a good day all.

I heard someone calling my name

Bushy as Happy said, don't give up...I got pg while sniffing after trying naturally for 18 previous cycles - so it's possible. The drug had no impact on my fertility that month so I guess it was just time that our number came up. 10 weeks later and it still feels very unreal, except when my head is in the toilet! Some of the side effects of the sniffing drug (I was on synarel) are the same as early pg symptoms, including a delayed AF, so my advice would be if you are even a day late, take a pg test every day til AF shows up (if at all, fx crossed!).

Boodle my love I was so sorry to read your news on FB. I hope you're being kind to yourself. We are all here for you

I don't get to check in that much but I hope you all know we are rooting for you and saving seats in the chopper. No Berry left behind! [there should be a fistbump emoticon]

Oh boodle I'm so sorry. Much love x

happy I'm avoiding the news today, it's all teacher bashing! I'm not a NUT so I wasn't on strike.

kami I'd definitely recommend tracking your cycle to see what's happening.

bushy as someone in an area that only offers one round of IVF I find the attitude of your nurse frankly terrifying!

feather hope you're managing to hold in there. I'm still struggling but given I thought I would be winding down to my maternity leave in just over 2 weeks, I'm waiting for DH's best mate to become a Dad any day, and school is just ridiculous right now (child in my class at risk of permanent exclusion) I think I just need to accept that life is a little difficult at the moment but by the time I'm back from honeymoon I'll have passed my edd, the bump I've not coped with all along will be a baby and no longer the bump I would have had, and I'll have had a break from school.....

beaky all that worrying sounds normal to me - we've had over a year of dealing with the FC now, and I really wanted to be referred to the ACU for IUI/IVF, but now it's happened it's just more worries - I want to know a date!! It's driving me crazy not being able to plan for half term, or know whether it will clash with a residential trip (I'm going on two), or our summer holiday.... And there is the whole 'this is the end of the road' feeling. I think the chasing rainbows plan has made me feel more optimistic though.

Argh, got to dash, just realised the time, supposed to be meeting mates in 20 minutes and I'm still sat on the sofa.... Apologies to anyone I've missed, I'll check back later!

Boodle sorry to hear that this cycle has not been successful

Barking I'd do the sky dive (well if I was brave enough that is)

Sid you totally give me hope! I hope the sickness passes soon for you.

Feather sorry to hear you are feeling down, anything you want to get off your chest? Sorry if you have said this already but what did you decide re your next steps?

Barking are you waiting for a letter for your ACU appointment? I think mine said they may ring but to be fair I don't remember much of the detail now! It does really interfere with any planning but I think since I am limited as to when I can take a holiday, I will just have to book and see what happens.

AF is in the house here, 4/5days early too ffs. I really don't understand my body and it frustrates me no end.

I don't know if this is anything but I have proper stinky wind!! I smell like rotten cabbage!!

sidney love the idea of a fist bump emoticon!! You made me smile with that one!!

barking yes! I was a bit slack jawed at nurse's comment too!

Anyone have ttc related dreams? I had one where some random person was announcing their bfp and I offered a very flat congratulations, then got grilled for doing so!!!

Beardy I think wind can be a pg symptom. Mind you with the amount of greens I eat I've "been pg" for about 3 years now

What dpo are you?

beaky yep, waiting for a letter. If it's the same as the FC we'll get a letter asking us to call to make an appointment, so the letter comes through and I get all excited because it's earlier than I dared hope, then when I call the earliest appointment available is more than 2 months away...
Sorry AF got you, it'd be lovely to get that letter and be able to say you didn't need the appointment, there's still time

Went out for a meal tonight. 8 girls. During conversation it comes up that friends of us all, now living abroad, are pg. These are the friends that we're staying with for the first two nights of our 'anti baby' honeymoon. I didn't know. FFS. Feels like too much right now. It became clear that only half the table had been told, and the others didn't know. Obviously the conversation then turned to when you should tell people and of course it's not always going to turn out well and who would you want to have known if you then had to tell them you'd had a mc etc. Couldn't handle it. Ended up leaving my meal half eaten and hiding in the toilets until someone came to coax me out. . Not f*ing fair. Was a baby free honeymoon too much to ask for?! And another of the girls there who is getting married this year was telling us all how three of her four bridesmaids are pregnant. PLEASE let me be pg by that wedding!!!

at the windy pg symptom spotting!! Have you started any new supplements recently?

barking oh what rotten blooming luck. I am sure you want to see your friends but maybe it's worth considering spending those first nights elsewhere? I really think you two need and deserve a total break from all this crap. If you start your honeymoon feeling glum cos you're stuck with pg friends that would be such a shame.

I had a dream about all of you last night! You all came to my house for dinner (and lots of naughty ).

Nothing to report here - CD4 and making the most of my week off with lots of naughty treats! Waiting game now for FC letter....

big yes I have TTC dreams. In the last one, DH and I were holding babies so tiny they fit in the palm of our hands...

CD4 for me too. I did my CD2 bloods and am now waiting for a smear and the dildocam next week, then CD24 bloods and then meeting with my GP to evaluate it all.

I'm with Parsley there Barking is there anywhere else you can stay so that you don't have to spend all of your first couple of days with them and maybe just see them fr a lunch or something? It's pretty shit but try not to focus on it. At least you can do a skydive!!

Because hope the tests go well, good luck for next week.

barking that is shitty timing. The whole business is unfair but don't let it spoil your honeymoon, whatever you do, whether that means staying elsewhere or finding a way to manage the situation for the couple of days that you are there. You can't control what happens and who gets pg but you are in charge of yourself and your emotions. Don't despair xx

bushy I have ttc dreams all the time where I'm pg or looking after a baby. Some are very real indeed and leave me feeling very unsettled when I wake up.

because that's all very quick and efficient. Good to get the first checks out of the way.

Just on my way to new acupuncture lady who helped my mate get pg. it's tipping it down and I'm knackered and freezing! Hoping it is worth the effort!

rp I have no idea what dpo I am! Glad my wind has entertained everyone!! And no, no new supplements, just the minky sniffing!! Didn't say anything in the side effects about flatulence!!!

barking god makes your stomach just hit the bottom doesn't it!! Fwiw your friends haven't done this to spite you, they may even be a bit worried about how you might take it. However know you what you mean about baby free holiday. If you think it's going to bother you then book into a total adults only anti baby type accommodation for that part and like someone else said do a lunch visit.

parsley I'm up for some wine, let's all pile round yours!!

tiger never tried acu! bit squeamish about it tbh. Hope it goes well and let us know whether you felt it was relaxing or not.

Just got parents eve no 1 out the way tonight. All went well, round two is Monday.

Tiger acupuncture can make rain stop. Troo fact.

Bushy well do you know about how long since you dtd or when AF is due? I want to know if we should all start pressurising you to poas

So I did some googling and it actually looks like my AMH number is bang on average for my age. I actually feel a lot better knowing that is okay. It is of course possible that there are no major challenges for me or DH and it is just rotten luck that our gametes are passing like ships in the proverbial. Or something.

Barking how are you holding up?

Hanging in there rp. Plenty at work to keep me insane busy right now so not much time to dwell on stuff during the day.

bushy these friends left the country last summer so unless a mutual friend has been gossiping about us on email (unlikely) they won't have a clue we've been trying, let alone had a mc. The friend that let it slip did think they'd been trying a while and had problems though, and that the move abroad was partly to give them a break from that (and then it happened). They're coming back to the UK 3 months after she's due. She is older than me and of this group of friends was the first to get married (about 5 years ago I think) so it's definitely feasible that they've been trying a while. That she's older than me does make it easier as well.

Party at Parsley's!! I'll bring the wine, got plenty left over from the wedding . Can't drink it at the moment though, on my catching rainbows detox. No wheat or alcohol for two weeks. Day 5 and my only slip has been a tunnocks caramel wafer.... Quite proud of myself!

We need to start coming up with a new thread title - obviously we need to reference a big sausage projected in the sky chasing a rainbow... Anything else I'm not thinking of that's been a theme of this thread?

Just dropping in to say that this had a very funny view of ttcing. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00zlhhz